What is Traditional RC modeling?
11-23-2015, 03:26 AM
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Those without any form of autonomous flight capability are "Traditional Radio Control"
A test would be to turn off the transmitter and see what happens..
A Traditional RC aircraft or helicopter will likely crash within seconds as it needs constant input from the pilot to remain airborne.
Some multicopters also fit into this category - e.g. Aerobatic Multicopters with no self level or GPS fitted. These require similar skills to flying an RC fixed wing or helicopter.
Turn the radio off and they will crash too.
Then you have multicopters with autonomous flight capability - these literally can fly themselves. They require almost no skill to fly as they will hover in one position when you let go of the sticks and they will land automatically when the battery gets low.
If you fly too far away (out of range) or turn the TX off they will automatically return to the take off position, land and shut down.
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11-23-2015, 03:41 AM
#328
Funny.....MY post only made statements as they pertain to facts previously presented in this thread.
YOURS strays to the point of calling me a troll, wondering if somebody who I don't even know is going to call you names, and claiming you know what my reply will be!
Talk about adult-like and classy! LOL
Astro
YOURS strays to the point of calling me a troll, wondering if somebody who I don't even know is going to call you names, and claiming you know what my reply will be!
Talk about adult-like and classy! LOL
Astro
I rest my case. As is evident from this and other posts, you lack the ability to differentiate between calling someone a troll, and describing an activity they are engaged in. I did not call you a troll.
11-23-2015, 03:42 AM
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That's a good point and a good question. FF aircraft don't really have any form of autonomous flight capability though - they might continue to fly without pilot input (for a while) due to natural stability but they can't navigate anywhere by themselves or land automatically in a pre determined location.
11-23-2015, 03:46 AM
#330
That's a good point and a good question. FF aircraft don't really have any form of autonomous flight capability though - they might continue to fly without pilot input (for a while) due to natural stability but they can't navigate anywhere by themselves or land automatically in a pre determined location.
11-23-2015, 05:47 AM
#331
Wouldn't matter...he was just looking for a reason to troll. His response will be no different.
I rest my case. As is evident from this and other posts, you lack the ability to differentiate between calling someone a troll, and describing an activity they are engaged in. I did not call you a troll.
I rest my case. As is evident from this and other posts, you lack the ability to differentiate between calling someone a troll, and describing an activity they are engaged in. I did not call you a troll.
If I am bowling, I am a bowler.
If I am flying a plane, I am a pilot.
If I am trolling, I am a troll.
See how that works? Split hairs if you will, it is your MO. Laughable!
Regards,
Astro
11-23-2015, 06:22 AM
#332
I'am not sure attaching a bottle rocket to model as the propulsion source is breaking the rules, launching a bottle rocket from an aircraft is what would be a "no no". I can remember as a kid trying to get one of those "Jet-X" things to power some of my little hand launch gliders, same idea but I bet a bottle rocket worked better.
11-23-2015, 10:32 AM
#333
It's going on right now all over the country, clubs are losing flying sites and many have given up the hobby of fixed wing and bought a quad copter so they can fly over their house and parks and on and on, sure their in the news and there is no shortage of nit-wits doing it but the truth is there is a love of the fun many have of doing what they think is a harmless form of pleasure and it's not going to stop. The FAA,DOT,PTA or AMA can't stop it, regulate or make people register their flying contraptions, they will however drive some out of the hobby, arrest and fine a few, maybe jail some but there's always the gun owners that say, "your not going to take my airplane away". I love it
11-23-2015, 10:38 AM
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I would tell them there is no tradition any more it's simply a person with a radio controlled aircraft and he or she can fly it when and wherever they like and if you don't know where or when then there's nothing you can do about it.
It's going on right now all over the country, clubs are losing flying sites and many have given up the hobby of fixed wing and bought a quad copter so they can fly over their house and parks and on and on, sure their in the news and there is no shortage of nit-wits doing it but the truth is there is a love of the fun many have of doing what they think is a harmless form of pleasure and it's not going to stop. The FAA,DOT,PTA or AMA can't stop it, regulate or make people register their flying contraptions, they will however drive some out of the hobby, arrest and fine a few, maybe jail some but there's always the gun owners that say, "your not going to take my airplane away". I love it
It's going on right now all over the country, clubs are losing flying sites and many have given up the hobby of fixed wing and bought a quad copter so they can fly over their house and parks and on and on, sure their in the news and there is no shortage of nit-wits doing it but the truth is there is a love of the fun many have of doing what they think is a harmless form of pleasure and it's not going to stop. The FAA,DOT,PTA or AMA can't stop it, regulate or make people register their flying contraptions, they will however drive some out of the hobby, arrest and fine a few, maybe jail some but there's always the gun owners that say, "your not going to take my airplane away". I love it
11-23-2015, 06:05 PM
#336
Extra Extra
Read all about it
Traditional Radio Control
is Dead
Killed by the DOT/FAA
and all these
ALphabet Organizations
3D Robotics (3DR)● Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA)● Aerospace Industries Association (AIA)● Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA)● Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA)● Amazon Prime Air● Amazon Retail● American Association of Airport Executives (AAAE)● Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI)● Best Buy● Consumer Technology Association (CTA)● DJI● General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA)● GoogleX● GoPro● Helicopter Association International (HAI)● International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP)● Management Association for Private Photogrammetric Surveyors (MAPPS)● Measure● National Association of State Aviation Officials (NASAO)● National Business Aviation Association (NBAA)● Parrot● Precision Hawk● Small UAV Coalition● Walmart
Read all about it
Traditional Radio Control
is Dead
Killed by the DOT/FAA
and all these
ALphabet Organizations
3D Robotics (3DR)● Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA)● Aerospace Industries Association (AIA)● Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA)● Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA)● Amazon Prime Air● Amazon Retail● American Association of Airport Executives (AAAE)● Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI)● Best Buy● Consumer Technology Association (CTA)● DJI● General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA)● GoogleX● GoPro● Helicopter Association International (HAI)● International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP)● Management Association for Private Photogrammetric Surveyors (MAPPS)● Measure● National Association of State Aviation Officials (NASAO)● National Business Aviation Association (NBAA)● Parrot● Precision Hawk● Small UAV Coalition● Walmart
11-23-2015, 06:18 PM
#338
From that perspective a simple distinction could be made.
Those without any form of autonomous flight capability are "Traditional Radio Control"
A test would be to turn off the transmitter and see what happens..
A Traditional RC aircraft or helicopter will likely crash within seconds as it needs constant input from the pilot to remain airborne.
Some multicopters also fit into this category - e.g. Aerobatic Multicopters with no self level or GPS fitted. These require similar skills to flying an RC fixed wing or helicopter.
Turn the radio off and they will crash too.
Then you have multicopters with autonomous flight capability - these literally can fly themselves. They require almost no skill to fly as they will hover in one position when you let go of the sticks and they will land automatically when the battery gets low.
If you fly too far away (out of range) or turn the TX off they will automatically return to the take off position, land and shut down.
Those without any form of autonomous flight capability are "Traditional Radio Control"
A test would be to turn off the transmitter and see what happens..
A Traditional RC aircraft or helicopter will likely crash within seconds as it needs constant input from the pilot to remain airborne.
Some multicopters also fit into this category - e.g. Aerobatic Multicopters with no self level or GPS fitted. These require similar skills to flying an RC fixed wing or helicopter.
Turn the radio off and they will crash too.
Then you have multicopters with autonomous flight capability - these literally can fly themselves. They require almost no skill to fly as they will hover in one position when you let go of the sticks and they will land automatically when the battery gets low.
If you fly too far away (out of range) or turn the TX off they will automatically return to the take off position, land and shut down.
For those of you who believe in such a magical RC Utopia, I leave you with this.....https://youtu.be/14ViwvgtvbA
11-24-2015, 05:29 AM
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It must be nice to live in a "Virtual Reality World" where all of your drones happily return to base ....LOL.
For those of you who believe in such a magical RC Utopia, I leave you with this.....https://youtu.be/14ViwvgtvbA
For those of you who believe in such a magical RC Utopia, I leave you with this.....https://youtu.be/14ViwvgtvbA
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. (This video was taken two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FerlxetewTk This one landed within inches of the take off position - failsafe was activated manually but the same thing happens if you turn the TX off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MqnAVal9o I have dozens of videos showing the same thing. Nothing virtual here. It works just as I described in my earlier post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qBSy_SPMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCN8n4rTLk
A few of my drones.
Last edited by Rob2160; 11-24-2015 at 05:54 AM.
11-24-2015, 05:56 AM
#341
From that perspective a simple distinction could be made.
Those without any form of autonomous flight capability are "Traditional Radio Control"
A test would be to turn off the transmitter and see what happens..
A Traditional RC aircraft or helicopter will likely crash within seconds as it needs constant input from the pilot to remain airborne.
Some multicopters also fit into this category - e.g. Aerobatic Multicopters with no self level or GPS fitted. These require similar skills to flying an RC fixed wing or helicopter.
Turn the radio off and they will crash too.
Then you have multicopters with autonomous flight capability - these literally can fly themselves. They require almost no skill to fly as they will hover in one position when you let go of the sticks and they will land automatically when the battery gets low.
If you fly too far away (out of range) or turn the TX off they will automatically return to the take off position, land and shut down.
Those without any form of autonomous flight capability are "Traditional Radio Control"
A test would be to turn off the transmitter and see what happens..
A Traditional RC aircraft or helicopter will likely crash within seconds as it needs constant input from the pilot to remain airborne.
Some multicopters also fit into this category - e.g. Aerobatic Multicopters with no self level or GPS fitted. These require similar skills to flying an RC fixed wing or helicopter.
Turn the radio off and they will crash too.
Then you have multicopters with autonomous flight capability - these literally can fly themselves. They require almost no skill to fly as they will hover in one position when you let go of the sticks and they will land automatically when the battery gets low.
If you fly too far away (out of range) or turn the TX off they will automatically return to the take off position, land and shut down.
11-24-2015, 05:57 AM
#342
That is absolutely no different than the so called drones.
11-24-2015, 05:59 AM
#343
Virtual reality? Not at all!. I respect that you might have no actual experience with Multicopter flight controllers and that's cool but Failsafe, Return Home and Auto-land are basic features that have been around for several years.
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. (This video was taken two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FerlxetewTk This one landed within inches of the take off position - failsafe was activated manually but the same thing happens if you turn the TX off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MqnAVal9o I have dozens of videos showing the same thing. Nothing virtual here. It works just as I described in my earlier post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qBSy_SPMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCN8n4rTLk
A few of my drones.
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. (This video was taken two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FerlxetewTk This one landed within inches of the take off position - failsafe was activated manually but the same thing happens if you turn the TX off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MqnAVal9o I have dozens of videos showing the same thing. Nothing virtual here. It works just as I described in my earlier post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qBSy_SPMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCN8n4rTLk
A few of my drones.
11-24-2015, 06:05 AM
#344
Virtual reality? Not at all!. I respect that you might have no actual experience with Multicopter flight controllers and that's cool but Failsafe, Return Home and Auto-land are basic features that have been around for several years.
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. (This video was taken two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FerlxetewTk This one landed within inches of the take off position - failsafe was activated manually but the same thing happens if you turn the TX off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MqnAVal9o I have dozens of videos showing the same thing. Nothing virtual here. It works just as I described in my earlier post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qBSy_SPMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCN8n4rTLk
A few of my drones.
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. (This video was taken two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FerlxetewTk This one landed within inches of the take off position - failsafe was activated manually but the same thing happens if you turn the TX off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MqnAVal9o I have dozens of videos showing the same thing. Nothing virtual here. It works just as I described in my earlier post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qBSy_SPMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCN8n4rTLk
A few of my drones.
What's the possibility of Australia's version of out FAA going into panic mode like ours & doing stupid Useless crap? Have they done Any other dumb stuff since they took your guns away?
11-24-2015, 06:30 AM
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That gun buy back was a total farce, the Government paid top dollar (new gun prices) for rusty pieces of junk that didn't even work.
If you had the appropriate licences you could keep your guns anyway but many people used the system to replace their old guns for new. (I handed in an old bolt action 22 with a broken trigger and they paid me $450 for it, then bought a new Ruger 10/22 semi auto with the cash.
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11-24-2015, 06:32 AM
#346
There are a whole lot of AMA & MAC Idiots flying "Traditional RC modeling" that should be required to have a transmitter activated some form of autonomous flight capability. U know the guy that crashes a couple of times a month. Every club has at least one. Ours is Reggy a Canadian. Been here less than 2 weeks and already has killed 2 planes. Yesterday he takes this plane he just bought at the recent club auction, He's never flown before, proceeds to get it way too far out and looses it and crashes. Six guys looked for it for about 2 hours and no sign of it. My fear is it went past the road that is 5/8ths of a mile in that direction and into a housing area.
This is only one of many guys, that I know of, that should be prohibited from flying most peoples version of "Traditional RC modeling". It's safer for the rest of us and the public at large. Also a lot less expensive than replacing so many planes. Of course if we never crashed HK and the like might go out of business.
This is only one of many guys, that I know of, that should be prohibited from flying most peoples version of "Traditional RC modeling". It's safer for the rest of us and the public at large. Also a lot less expensive than replacing so many planes. Of course if we never crashed HK and the like might go out of business.
11-24-2015, 06:36 AM
#347
Its definitely on the cards and I wouldn't be surprised if we have to register ours soon also.
That gun buy back was a total farce, the Government paid top dollar (new gun prices) for rusty pieces of junk that didn't even work.
If you had the appropriate licences you could keep your guns anyway but many people used the system to replace their old guns for new. (I handed in an old bolt action 22 with a broken trigger and they paid me $450 for it, then bought a new Ruger 10/22 semi auto with the cash.\
That gun buy back was a total farce, the Government paid top dollar (new gun prices) for rusty pieces of junk that didn't even work.
If you had the appropriate licences you could keep your guns anyway but many people used the system to replace their old guns for new. (I handed in an old bolt action 22 with a broken trigger and they paid me $450 for it, then bought a new Ruger 10/22 semi auto with the cash.
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11-24-2015, 01:31 PM
#350
Virtual reality? Not at all!. I respect that you might have no actual experience with Multicopter flight controllers and that's cool but Failsafe, Return Home and Auto-land are basic features that have been around for several years.
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
They actually work very well. I have 14 multicopters with GPS and they all return home flawlessly when I turn the TX off during a flight and land within a meter or two of the take-off position - completely unassisted.
I have done this over 300 times in the past two years with a 100% success rate.
In my world, this is a leading cause. Batteries and servos, failed solder traces, bad switches, etc.
You must think that YOUR planes are immune...?
When my TRADITIONALLY controlled planes crash, 99.9% of the time they do so where they are DESIGNED TO BE FLOWN...which is over the safe confines of the club field.
OTOH...your drones are destined to crash where they are designed to be flown and that is BEYOND the safe limits of a field that is located within any sort of a populated area.