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11-04-2015, 09:48 AM
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We have a great time here. No winters and the best part is no state income tax.That's two of the biggest reasons I left N.Y.
Me and Crispy ( or whatever his real name is) have and thing going on he says it's black and I say it's white. About the only thing we agree upon is .......... well nothing.
Mike
Me and Crispy ( or whatever his real name is) have and thing going on he says it's black and I say it's white. About the only thing we agree upon is .......... well nothing.
Mike
11-04-2015, 09:48 AM
#880
Heck it's 65 light winds and sunny in Queensbury, NY
Right now it's 56 and rainy in normally Sunny, Hot AJ AZ.
GO FLY. PLZ
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11-04-2015, 10:28 AM
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11-04-2015, 10:50 AM
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Hey Sport , Me either . 
I use firefox with the adblock plus and all I see are the wonderful posts of all you like minded old guys who stay young
by flying RC airplanes . Ads in the middle of posts would be a major turnoff for me since I come here to read the posts of real people , rather than the same ol stale advertising garbage that has taken over just about every inch of the internet these days . Yea I know , some would say ; "But the ad money is what keeps the site going" , and maybe so , but just like the ads that show up in my mailbox every day , there is no mandate that I do any more with them then take them from my mailbox to the trash bin .
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11-04-2015, 01:41 PM
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As is typical you only read part of anything. My post was in resposne to a person who was insisting that the FAA was going to charge for registering and how that was such a horrible thing. Anyone who thinks the FAA would come to anyone's field to enforce rigistration has their head so far up their bum they need a glass belly button.
11-04-2015, 02:16 PM
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11-04-2015, 02:30 PM
#885
Per AMA Safety Code A.2.(f):
"Ensure the aircraft is identified with the name and address or AMA number of the owner on the inside or affixed to the outside of the model aircraft. (This does not apply to model aircraft flown indoors."
As previously mentioned, I'd expect the AMA safety code to be revised to reflect the federal registration system requirement once it becomes law. Thus, CDs will have the ability to inspect aircraft for registration compliance.
11-04-2015, 03:57 PM
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So in your future world each field will have a "inspector" on site 24/7 looking for violators? Really where is all this extra help coming from? It's tough enough filling officer positions.
Just how do you see this working?
Mike
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11-04-2015, 04:17 PM
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Nobody does anything voluntarily. Let me simplify this for you. Anyone who's following the rules now will never encounter a problem later. As a matter of fact I support them.
As far as the DOT who knows what they'll come up with. One things for sure they'll create a bureaucratic nightmare that will spin out of control as all government deals do. Enforcement will be a joke.
Now please feel free to be the first in line to register stuff you have owned for years.
Mike
As far as the DOT who knows what they'll come up with. One things for sure they'll create a bureaucratic nightmare that will spin out of control as all government deals do. Enforcement will be a joke.
Now please feel free to be the first in line to register stuff you have owned for years.
Mike
Clubs have the ability now to check aircraft for safety most don't but they could if hey really wanted to. Cd's now during sanctioned events ensure that thing go safely and smoothly. They also make desions as far as event rules. Nothing more.
So in your future world each field will have a "inspector" on site 24/7 looking for violators? Really where is all this extra help coming from? It's tough enough filling officer positions.
Just how do you see this working?
Mike
So in your future world each field will have a "inspector" on site 24/7 looking for violators? Really where is all this extra help coming from? It's tough enough filling officer positions.
Just how do you see this working?
Mike
11-04-2015, 04:30 PM
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No it will be difficult at best to do.. Your assuming way too much as far as the AMA Safety Code and the power of club officers and CD's.
Last I heard the feds were going to look to local law enforcement for enforcement. The AMA has no such power last time I looked.
Mike
11-04-2015, 04:45 PM
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Q2, n/a, not feasible
Q3, I think is a good one, Mike. My expectation is LEOs will deal with it (or not) by exception, as they do for the most part now.
Exception from enforcement action: (a) no law/rule or hazard created or threatened by operation of the UA, no cause to check markings. (b) unable to read reg. marking or otherwise (say from witness info) make a connection to its operator. This will probably be the case for most incidents while the craft is in flight.
Exception for enforcement action: UA was recovered on the ground after an incident and seized by the lawman. The UA is impounded and reg. marking leads to enforcement against operator. If no reg. marking it stays impounded until someone claims it and pays the piper, including a stiff fine for failure to register in addition to any other penalty that may br levied. If perp doesn't come forward he faces additional charges for evading if caught, else he may get away it, except for forfeiture of the UA.
11-04-2015, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
has a one taken action or are you all talk>> iam 83 and iam tired of all laws so ill do what i feel from now on>> so do someting or shut up
. http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...2015-4378-0022
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11-04-2015, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
has a one taken action or are you all talk>> iam 83 and iam tired of all laws so ill do what i feel from now on>> so do someting or shut up
11-04-2015, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
has a one taken action or are you all talk>> iam 83 and iam tired of all laws so ill do what i feel from now on>> so do someting or shut up
It does no good to keep saying we should do something unless you have a suggestion as to what should be done.
11-04-2015, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
has a one taken action or are you all talk>> iam 83 and iam tired of all laws so ill do what i feel from now on>> so do someting or shut up
I don't much care for laws/rules either. Every law takes away somebody's freedom to act according to his own sense of right and wrong, so they should not be enacted frivolously. Making rules/laws should always be done regretfully, as a last resort. I think DOT's pending action in this instance is a measured response, about the least they can to resolve what has developed into a bad situation. They see a need for enforcement action against irresponsible drone operators that are creating hazards in the NAS. They can't do that without being able to finger the operators controlling the wayward craft, and that is purpose of registration.
Now, would you abide by that rather than have your hobby/sport banned outright? That is the kind of 'final solution' that seems to favored at state and local levels. So, you tell others "do something or shut up." What have/would you have done?
11-04-2015, 07:47 PM
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11-04-2015, 09:57 PM
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This from AVweb biz a aviation business journal:
Drone Task Force Gets To Work
By Russ Niles
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The industry task force convened to advise the FAA on its plan to require registration of most small drones got together today in Washington to figure out which of the millions of little aircraft to keep tabs on and how to do it without driving everyone crazy. And they need to do it by Nov. 20. It's a tall order but FAA Administrator Michael Huerta urged the task force, made up of alphabet group leaders, drone manufacturers, retailers and commercial drone users (25 in all) to "think big, think outside the box." The big box thinking got under way in the afternoon after FAA staff "briefed participants on the current statutory requirements and international obligations for aircraft registration."
In his remarks to the group, Huerta essentially said their task was to advise the agency on a system that would allow the agency to come down hard on those who willfully flout the coming UAS rules, while letting the majority of responsible owners get full value from the little technological marvels. "No one wants to see this promising technology overshadowed by an incident or accident that could easily be avoided with proper training and awareness of the safety principles that are now second nature in manned aviation," Huerta said. The task force is back at work Wednesday.
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Drone Task Force Gets To Work
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The industry task force convened to advise the FAA on its plan to require registration of most small drones got together today in Washington to figure out which of the millions of little aircraft to keep tabs on and how to do it without driving everyone crazy. And they need to do it by Nov. 20. It's a tall order but FAA Administrator Michael Huerta urged the task force, made up of alphabet group leaders, drone manufacturers, retailers and commercial drone users (25 in all) to "think big, think outside the box." The big box thinking got under way in the afternoon after FAA staff "briefed participants on the current statutory requirements and international obligations for aircraft registration."
In his remarks to the group, Huerta essentially said their task was to advise the agency on a system that would allow the agency to come down hard on those who willfully flout the coming UAS rules, while letting the majority of responsible owners get full value from the little technological marvels. "No one wants to see this promising technology overshadowed by an incident or accident that could easily be avoided with proper training and awareness of the safety principles that are now second nature in manned aviation," Huerta said. The task force is back at work Wednesday.
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11-04-2015, 10:37 PM
#898
I don't see where registration will do much to stop irresponsible flyers but what might work is to require that those that fly at places other than a designated RC site to have permits especially if you want to fly close to a airport or other sensitive locations and to get the permit you would have to attend a safe flying class. If you are caught flying in a unsafe manner you loose your permit if caught again you go to jail. I think the FAA should issue a map that would clearly show all areas in the U.S. that would require a permit to operate a RC craft.
11-05-2015, 03:22 AM
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I won't be registering any of my craft, and I'll fly any of them on my property at any time that I damn well feel like. Flying field is another issue. I don't have a problem registering a plane that I will be taking to a public field and flying over/around the general public. What I do on private property is no concern of the FAA or any one else for that matter.
11-05-2015, 03:55 AM
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I don't see where registration will do much to stop irresponsible flyers but what might work is to require that those that fly at places other than a designated RC site to have permits especially if you want to fly close to a airport or other sensitive locations and to get the permit you would have to attend a safe flying class. If you are caught flying in a unsafe manner you loose your permit if caught again you go to jail. I think the FAA should issue a map that would clearly show all areas in the U.S. that would require a permit to operate a RC craft.