porcia83

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I'd disagree on at least two points. People are trying to solve a problem, the effectiveness of those attempts remain to be seen. As for rights, you have few absolute rights. Certainly not property rights (familiar with eminent domain?) , and definitely not airspace rights. There are already "vertical highways" of airspace controlled and regulated by the govt. It's whats helped to keep our skies safe to a large degree. My old math professor used to say the only right we have is the right to die. Hey, he was a math teacher.

porcia83

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+1, I'd go as high as 98% of the vote though...

porcia83

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What you're missing is the forest through the trees. You're looking for black and white, and absolute. Think big picture.

porcia83

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So let me get this right, you don't think a single WSJ article is sufficient, but two or three more that show a wait for it wait for it flying wing is more relevant? You can cherry pick an article and point to a single picture all you want, it's still disingenuous. You probably know full well that 99% of the discussions of this issue, and subsequent comments on it, refer to MR's. Although I'm willing to bet their might be a fixed wing aircraft that operates exactly like a multi rotor uav, I don't think I've seen one. That flying wing is launched by hand, and flown manually. It does not take off on it's own, and fly a predetermined flight plan, then return to base without any human intervention. These are not the style and type of aircraft that have been discussed throughout this whole process. Oddly enough it seems like since there isn't a very specific definition of drone yet, this feeds the paranoid narrative that "everything" is going to be negatively affected. Anything is possible, but so far from what I'm seeing and hearing and reading, it's not probable. We'll have to check back with future WSJ articles for validation.

flyinwalenda

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As far as the perceived low number of comments on the FAA docket . How many here had their club "leaders" rally the member base to make them aware of this issue and to comment on it ? Or how many AMA members received email notifications informing them of this issue or multiple emails indicating how many days were left to comment? I received no notification from the clubs I belong to. and from the AMA I received one email Oct 20 outlining their response to the issue but no further emails.
However I did recently receive an email from the AMA telling me to buy a UMX B-17, and I was pelted with multiple emails in September to renew my membership for two years before the deadline !

joebahl

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BTW Gents and insurance agents ! i have plenty of my own land to fly my fixed wing rc aircraft off of and friends i have made over the last 40 years in this hobby have their own land too. I dont need The AMA and really never did. All you guys who love watching your due money go down the drain defending the problem of drones being tied now to us regular flyers of rc since the AMA decided it would be WISE to take them in good luck with that ! I will enjoy my last years flying rc without the AMA . joe

franklin_m

Actually, your comment about not affecting fixed wing was based on a single WSJ article you quote at length, highlighting "drone" in red several times, and then using that as a basis for drawing a conclusion that it would not affect fixed wing sUAS. I merely pointed out that logic is flawed, since the WSJ used the term "drone" in at least three articles, and in each of the three cited articles they included photos of fixed wing aircraft. Use of the word "drone" by the WSJ clearly does not exclude fixed wing sUAS.

franklin_m

You know, I wondered the same. So last night I exported all the comments posted, 1212 if I remember. Now I could tell that FAA is a day or so behind in posting, so I'm sure the data set is incomplete. But I also grabbed the names of everyone listed on the AMA website, all the heads of offices/functions as well as the names of all the district vps.

After sorting by lastname and firstname and then running an excel vlookup against the names in the 1200 FAA comments. This was so important to AMA that not a single one of the AMA VPs posted a comment by name. Furthermore, just one of the AMA staff posted a comment by name. For something that they're telling us was so important, it doesn't appear that it was important enough for the HQ / top leadership to comment and put their name beside it.

rcmiket

So in reality your assuming that they meant everything but "traditional" ( for lack of a better word) models.You ( or no one else here) actually knows what the final description of what is to be registered is.

".agreed to recommend registration for recreational drones weighing more than 250 grams, or roughly nine ounces, according to two task-force members and a third person close to the group. That would include almost all consumer devices other than toys."

How you come up with your conclusion that there are exceptions eludes me and apparently others here .
Mike

Chris P. Bacon

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There are alternate ways to comment (see below) which would certainly be more than a day or so behind. With the last minute rush before the deadline I'd bet they are several days behind.


Alternate Ways to Comment

You may submit comments by any of the following methods: Federal Rulemaking Portal: http://www.regulations.gov. Follow the instructions for submitting comments. Fax: 202-493-2251. Mail: Dockets Management System; U.S. Department of Transportation, Dockets Operations, M-30, Ground Floor, Room W12-140, 1200 New Jersey Avenue SE., Washington, DC 20590-0001. Hand Delivery: To U.S. Department of Transportation, Dockets Operations, M-30, Ground Floor, Room W12-140, 1200 New Jersey Avenue SE., Washington, DC 20590-0001, between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, except Federal holidays. Instructions: Include the agency name and docket number FAA-2015-4378 for this document at the beginning of your comment. Note that all comments received will be posted without change to http://www.regulations.gov including any personal information provided. If sent by mail, comments must be submitted in duplicate. Persons wishing to receive confirmation of receipt of their comments must include a self-addressed stamped postcard. Privacy Act: Anyone is able to search the electronic form of any written communications and comments received into any of our dockets by the name of the individual submitting the document (or signing the document, if submitted on behalf of an association, business, labor union, etc.). You may review DOT's complete Privacy Act Statement at http://www.dot.gov/privacy. Docket: You may view the public docket through the Internet at http://www.regulations.gov or in person at the Docket Operations office at the above address (See ADDRESSES).

HoundDog

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1. 1.680 in
2. Under the rules of golf, a golf ball has a mass no more than 1.620 oz (45.93 grams), has a diameter not less than 1.680 in (42.67 mm), and performs within specified velocity, distance, and symmetry limits.
   bigger than a WWII Ship Board Anti Aircraft Pom-Pom.
3. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Golf+Gun%22

HoundDog

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I'd say this to any AMA HATER not just U Joe Budy. So PLZ don't take it personally. Don't let the Reversible door hit ya in "OH Well U know where" I'm sure U won't be missed by the AMA or the guys U used to plague at the local AMA Sanctioned club. I sincerely wish ya good luck flying by your self. This hobby is as much about commerady ast it is about Flying or even Building, Which by the way is a very solitary part of the Hobby/Sport.

franklin_m

Ok, I'll admit that there are other ways to comment. Commenting by mail is an option, but it requires transferring thoughts to paper, putting that into an envelope, addressing it, adding postage, and then walking to a mailbox. That's discretionary effort that I'd argue is beyond that required for online commenting.

However, to use that to explain the absence of electronic comments requires us to believe that on such an important topic:
(1) All but one of them waited until the last minute;
(2) All but one waited until the last day; or
(3) All but one chose the much more difficult method to comment?

On the other hand, invoking the principle of Occam's Razor - (and I paraphrase) that the simplest explanation is usually the right one:

All but one didn't comment

P.S. I'll export the data again in a couple days to gather up the last comments that came in on the 6th and post results.

Chris P. Bacon

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I wasn't asking about the work effort involved in using any of the comment submission options available.

I was simply stating that if someone is going to make statements based on their analysis of the data then it would be in their best interest to fully understand the entire end-to-end data collection process.

cj_rumley

When my kids were small they were frightened by lightning. I told them if they see a lightning bolt, it means that it didn't strike them.
By analogy, one shouldn't worry about spotting drones from the flight deck.

vertical grimmace

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You do own a certain amount of a area above your private property. There was never a problem with us operating in the 400' area above the ground until now. Why? Because it is a future cash cow. This is about power and control. Not safety. The Government and media are doing a good job convincing everyone that they are here to save the day of a massive safety problem, but that is not what is going on. Power and control, and the ability to control an opportunity for money to be made. Any "problem" is being exaggerated.
How many actual collisions have occurred?

vertical grimmace

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One thing has occurred, a man protected his private property from a drone. In a very surprising ruling (to me), the judge ruled in the shooters favor. I know those scared and ignorant of firearms probably crapped their pants over this, but light load shot shells have little energy. Good for the judge. For once they got it right.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/28/m...off-scot-free/

franklin_m

Ok, if it makes you happy, add : "Based on the available data..." in front of the comment. I still contend that I find it hard to believe that all but one of them all chose the same method to respond. But if you want to believe that and continue to shill for AMA, then that's fine by me.

[email protected]

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you will be stupid if you do register them

F-16 viperman

Please forgive Me for being a little sarcastic and straying a little off the topic here but, is'nt it interesting that with the recent air disasters in the last couple of weeks, We have not heard of any drone sightings or any other negative rc press? Maybe registration ought not be such an urgent task?. Does'nt the world have a bigger problems that Our resourses need to solve? Re-affirms My position that most of it has been and still is BS!

Granpooba

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I may be a little crazy, but certainly not stupid !

Same with assault rifles here in NY state. Law requires that they now be registered. How many do you think actually registered them Even the Police Departments have stated that they just do not have the man power or time to enforce such a law.

joebahl

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For all you fpv flyers or drone flyer wanna bes lets meet back here in a couple years and then tell us how your flying of these crazy things is going for ya! lmao joe

F-16 viperman

What's an assault rifle? Any weapon, or a rock can be used to assault somebody. The world is full of assault weapons!

init4fun

Yep , got a whole kitchen full of assault knives , might have to register them , too .......

mike1974

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Flying of these crazy things?? I hope you are joking. My crazy FPV plane is a foam RC glider. I had over 20 LOS flights with my FPV plane before ever even thinking about putting on goggles and actually flying FPV. I needed to make sure the plane was trimmed and balanced. I needed to get a feel for the plane as far as speed of flight, turning/climbing characteristics and when and how it stalled. Then I had to test stabilization, loiter, return to home, etc. All LOS. Not to mention all the setup and setup of safety features while plugged into the PC and also ground tested for certain features. All before ever flying it FPV.

And when we meet back here in a couple years I bet there is still not a single incident of an RC/drone/FPV aircraft damaging or downing a full scale aircraft.