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And much of this is what gives me pause, when the media directs its attention specifically to the quads with cameras. I have seen my share of AMA fields, where the members are there to do nothing more than have a good time. The AMA code, needless to say, is not followed to the LETTER. Honestly, much of what gets people to the field in the first place is the fellowship and camaraderie. Yes, some go there to do nothing more than fly. But most visit the field to be with their friends. Spend enough time with friends, and there is bound to be horse play of some sorts. After all, a 25% Extra is "nothing more than a toy that can't be flown beyond sight".
#1202
The reality for me is that I have no issue at all with registering my sUAS whether they're fixed wing, MR, helicopters, or something else. If AMA members are as safe as they're saying they are, then they have nothing to fear from registration.
Whether or not the AMA's efforts have been effective or not remains to be seen. Whether the $1M in membership money spent on lobbying was worth it or not remains to be seen.
Haven't you stated in previous posts the $1M was a complete waste money? Now you're saying the ROI remains to be seen? Which is it?
IMO, the larger concern is what follows this if registration does not solve the problem.
Whether or not the AMA's efforts have been effective or not remains to be seen. Whether the $1M in membership money spent on lobbying was worth it or not remains to be seen.
Haven't you stated in previous posts the $1M was a complete waste money? Now you're saying the ROI remains to be seen? Which is it?
IMO, the larger concern is what follows this if registration does not solve the problem.
#1203
You forgot das sweat cred!
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Just a couple of Questions and thoughts on the registration question.
1. if the seller isn't required to make sure the sUAS is registered what guarantees the thing gets registered,? The sell makes certain there is a background and registration is completed for Gun sales.
2. Who's going to guarantee that all existing things are registered?
3. Why register every sUAS? Better to register the Pilot and require his Registration be in the craft and "N" number be displayed any time it is flown.
4. When something is FREE from the government how long will that last? Better to include the registration and cost with the price of the sUAS.
5. How does one Register a sUAS that is built from Scratch/Plans/Old parts ect.?
We haven't seen the end of this invasion of our Privileges/rights to use the NAS like anyone else.
6. Registration for flying at any Field supported by a CBO should be exempt of registration Display but still registered.
JMHO and some questions we should be asking if Registration is going to curtail any and all perceived Problems with flying sUAS's in the NAS.If what has been rumored so far Like most government intrusions, what is proposed is usually inoperable/unworkable or useless for the intended purpose. Well just saying it won't accomplish the perceived end result..
1. if the seller isn't required to make sure the sUAS is registered what guarantees the thing gets registered,? The sell makes certain there is a background and registration is completed for Gun sales.
2. Who's going to guarantee that all existing things are registered?
3. Why register every sUAS? Better to register the Pilot and require his Registration be in the craft and "N" number be displayed any time it is flown.
4. When something is FREE from the government how long will that last? Better to include the registration and cost with the price of the sUAS.
5. How does one Register a sUAS that is built from Scratch/Plans/Old parts ect.?
We haven't seen the end of this invasion of our Privileges/rights to use the NAS like anyone else.
6. Registration for flying at any Field supported by a CBO should be exempt of registration Display but still registered.
JMHO and some questions we should be asking if Registration is going to curtail any and all perceived Problems with flying sUAS's in the NAS.If what has been rumored so far Like most government intrusions, what is proposed is usually inoperable/unworkable or useless for the intended purpose. Well just saying it won't accomplish the perceived end result..
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Just wanted to clarify or confirm what you said, perhaps it was just the way it was written. Are you saying the primary role purpose of the AMA is the insurance, and that if any rule is broken your coverage will be denied? I wouldn't be surprised if someone had been kicked out but I doubt AMA would publish that info, nor would the person kicked out really talk about it.
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Yes. Their stated objective is the promotion of the hobby, and now the protection (a lobby). My point was that I highly doubt anyone has ever been kicked out of the AMA for violating the safety code. It would primarily be a tool to either deny or diminish coverage.
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Hell man, you can have the win!! I "signed" the AMA "contract" and don't 100% adhere to the AMA safety code. There you have it. You win. I'm a bad boy!! Rogue FPV rebellion!! Master of FPV disaster! Accident waiting to happen!! Catastrophe an inch away every time I take to the FPV sky!! I spread fear and panic through the community with my foam FPV plane!! lmao!!! Happy now??? Can we please stop arguing this point??? You win!! You win!!! you win!!! Yay you!!! Give yourself a high five!! Pat yourself on the back oh perfect AMA safety code follower you!!!
#1213
It really does not matter to me if I have agreed or not in this instance. The FACT is that I follow the AMA guidlines except when flying non los fpv NOT at an AMA field and on PRIVATE land. It is that simple. I don't care if I "signed" the AMA "contract".
Hell man, you can have the win!! I "signed" the AMA "contract" and don't 100% adhere to the AMA safety code. There you have it. You win. I'm a bad boy!! Rogue FPV rebellion!! Master of FPV disaster! Accident waiting to happen!! Catastrophe an inch away every time I take to the FPV sky!! I spread fear and panic through the community with my foam FPV plane!! lmao!!! Happy now??? Can we please stop arguing this point??? You win!! You win!!! you win!!! Yay you!!! Give yourself a high five!! Pat yourself on the back oh perfect AMA safety code follower you!!!
Hell man, you can have the win!! I "signed" the AMA "contract" and don't 100% adhere to the AMA safety code. There you have it. You win. I'm a bad boy!! Rogue FPV rebellion!! Master of FPV disaster! Accident waiting to happen!! Catastrophe an inch away every time I take to the FPV sky!! I spread fear and panic through the community with my foam FPV plane!! lmao!!! Happy now??? Can we please stop arguing this point??? You win!! You win!!! you win!!! Yay you!!! Give yourself a high five!! Pat yourself on the back oh perfect AMA safety code follower you!!!
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So if you do not follow the safety code, after signing this AMA contract, what happens?
This talk of following the AMA safety code is almost completely irrelevant, as the FPV crowd that is making the news, obviously are not. Not that it matters to them, as I am sure they are not members of the AMA.
It would be interesting to know how many AMA members are FPV/Quad only fliers. I am going to guess very few. Mainly because you do not need a flying field, and there are no competitions/events requiring AMA membership. At least as far as I know.
This talk of following the AMA safety code is almost completely irrelevant, as the FPV crowd that is making the news, obviously are not. Not that it matters to them, as I am sure they are not members of the AMA.
It would be interesting to know how many AMA members are FPV/Quad only fliers. I am going to guess very few. Mainly because you do not need a flying field, and there are no competitions/events requiring AMA membership. At least as far as I know.
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So if you do not follow the safety code, after signing this AMA contract, what happens?
I'd venture a guess if you have an accident while not following the safety code and file a claim your claim would be denied. Of course, that's just a guess. Insurance companies are made up of wonderful people and they love to pay claims above and beyond the amounts field even when they don't have to. They always overlook careless mistakes people make when they've agreed to do things that they don't do. Lastly, insurance companies aren't in it for they money so they just pay anything that walks in the door with question. Yeah, that's it.
This talk of following the AMA safety code is almost completely irrelevant, as the FPV crowd that is making the news, obviously are not.
Not that it matters to them, as I am sure they are not members of the AMA.
Nice to see you were able to address your own statement.
It would be interesting to know how many AMA members are FPV/Quad only fliers. I am going to guess very few. Mainly because you do not need a flying field, and there are no competitions/events requiring AMA membership. At least as far as I know.
They're better organized than you could possibly imagine.
http://www.multigp.com/
I'd venture a guess if you have an accident while not following the safety code and file a claim your claim would be denied. Of course, that's just a guess. Insurance companies are made up of wonderful people and they love to pay claims above and beyond the amounts field even when they don't have to. They always overlook careless mistakes people make when they've agreed to do things that they don't do. Lastly, insurance companies aren't in it for they money so they just pay anything that walks in the door with question. Yeah, that's it.
This talk of following the AMA safety code is almost completely irrelevant, as the FPV crowd that is making the news, obviously are not.
Not that it matters to them, as I am sure they are not members of the AMA.
Nice to see you were able to address your own statement.
It would be interesting to know how many AMA members are FPV/Quad only fliers. I am going to guess very few. Mainly because you do not need a flying field, and there are no competitions/events requiring AMA membership. At least as far as I know.
They're better organized than you could possibly imagine.
http://www.multigp.com/
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Well I've flown traditional models for 27 years. Even if they ban FPV I have all my other los planes, multis, and helis. Not sure how banning FPV gets rid of "folks like me"? I didn't even want to argue but you keep going back to this AMA thing like it's law or something. You basically say if you are not the perfect AMA safety code follower you should be tarred and feathered because you are "ruining it for everybody".
Believe it or not i'm actually a very friendly, fun, happy guy.
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You have got to be kidding me.
Well I've flown traditional models for 27 years. Even if they ban FPV I have all my other los planes, multis, and helis. Not sure how banning FPV gets rid of "folks like me"? I didn't even want to argue but you keep going back to this AMA thing like it's law or something. You basically say if you are not the perfect AMA safety code follower you should be tarred and feathered because you are "ruining it for everybody".
Believe it or not i'm actually a very friendly, fun, happy guy.
Well I've flown traditional models for 27 years. Even if they ban FPV I have all my other los planes, multis, and helis. Not sure how banning FPV gets rid of "folks like me"? I didn't even want to argue but you keep going back to this AMA thing like it's law or something. You basically say if you are not the perfect AMA safety code follower you should be tarred and feathered because you are "ruining it for everybody".
Believe it or not i'm actually a very friendly, fun, happy guy.
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So if you do not follow the safety code, after signing this AMA contract, what happens?
This talk of following the AMA safety code is almost completely irrelevant, as the FPV crowd that is making the news, obviously are not. Not that it matters to them, as I am sure they are not members of the AMA.
It would be interesting to know how many AMA members are FPV/Quad only fliers. I am going to guess very few. Mainly because you do not need a flying field, and there are no competitions/events requiring AMA membership. At least as far as I know.
This talk of following the AMA safety code is almost completely irrelevant, as the FPV crowd that is making the news, obviously are not. Not that it matters to them, as I am sure they are not members of the AMA.
It would be interesting to know how many AMA members are FPV/Quad only fliers. I am going to guess very few. Mainly because you do not need a flying field, and there are no competitions/events requiring AMA membership. At least as far as I know.
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Actually their easy to deal with when somebody spends a grand or more on any toy they tend to be responsible adults. Bottom line is we educate them the best we can and make suggestions on proper use. When they walk out the door all bets are off and 99$ we never see again in the shop or at the field...
Want a experience deal with a R/C car guy they know it all but just can't get anything to work.
Mike
Want a experience deal with a R/C car guy they know it all but just can't get anything to work.
Mike