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#2176
It's not free, it's called taxes, and we continue to pay for it.
#2177
Originally Posted by combatpigg
Some fields just don't accommodate choppers of any kind and that is their call.
Your "Drone" ceases to be a drone once you ditch the camera and other non-essential gear so that you can enjoy flying it manually as a quadcopter [or whatever it is].
Then U fly your stick built creation with a Rubber band and 3 channel radio. That's just what U are saying to Progress. I suppose that if a young kids comes to your field and wants to learn with say an apprentice or one of the new planes with GPS and auto land U would run him off.
jatoRC;
Again these guys all don't like it cause they don't do it. Just let one of the
"IN CROWED" get one they will all to a man now believe it the greatest thing since control line. Most of these guys turn out to end up being Hypocrites when it comes right down to it. All the clbs I belong to (5) tere always a few that if they don't participate in it now one should. They complain when ever some one that paid the same dues as they get all bent out of shape over some one taking up too much airspace or what ever for 6 to 10 minutes. Every club has these types, and U know I'm right.
Some fields just don't accommodate choppers of any kind and that is their call.
Your "Drone" ceases to be a drone once you ditch the camera and other non-essential gear so that you can enjoy flying it manually as a quadcopter [or whatever it is].
Then U fly your stick built creation with a Rubber band and 3 channel radio. That's just what U are saying to Progress. I suppose that if a young kids comes to your field and wants to learn with say an apprentice or one of the new planes with GPS and auto land U would run him off.
jatoRC;
Again these guys all don't like it cause they don't do it. Just let one of the
"IN CROWED" get one they will all to a man now believe it the greatest thing since control line. Most of these guys turn out to end up being Hypocrites when it comes right down to it. All the clbs I belong to (5) tere always a few that if they don't participate in it now one should. They complain when ever some one that paid the same dues as they get all bent out of shape over some one taking up too much airspace or what ever for 6 to 10 minutes. Every club has these types, and U know I'm right.
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Posted by poricia83
"It's not going to be a priority, and it's not going to happen. I mentioned it earlier, and will do so again. The title of this thread is like clickbaiting titles from AOL and Buzzfeed. The realy "story" if you can call it that was about "DRONES"....nowhere did it say anything about aircraft. But that didn't stop the the select few who are anti AMA and anti govt from spinning this as an AMA failure, and in classic propaganda like fashion, try to twist this into the whole hobby being affected.
What is proposed, and floated as a trial balloon to gauge acceptance of the public and constituents, and what will actually BE, are two different things. Regulation of big time commerical drones that will affect air space is a no brainer, that makes sense. The involvement of hobby grade stuff, not so much. I don't buy into the DOT or FAA making some bizarre "power grab" looking for this to be a new area to delve into, they can barely manage what's on their plate right now.
I don't think anyone has to worry about their UMX Carbon Z Cub being registered anytime soon. It's just not going to happen. The alarmists should just stop already."
I'm done.
Mike
"It's not going to be a priority, and it's not going to happen. I mentioned it earlier, and will do so again. The title of this thread is like clickbaiting titles from AOL and Buzzfeed. The realy "story" if you can call it that was about "DRONES"....nowhere did it say anything about aircraft. But that didn't stop the the select few who are anti AMA and anti govt from spinning this as an AMA failure, and in classic propaganda like fashion, try to twist this into the whole hobby being affected.
What is proposed, and floated as a trial balloon to gauge acceptance of the public and constituents, and what will actually BE, are two different things. Regulation of big time commerical drones that will affect air space is a no brainer, that makes sense. The involvement of hobby grade stuff, not so much. I don't buy into the DOT or FAA making some bizarre "power grab" looking for this to be a new area to delve into, they can barely manage what's on their plate right now.
I don't think anyone has to worry about their UMX Carbon Z Cub being registered anytime soon. It's just not going to happen. The alarmists should just stop already."
I'm done.
Mike
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Interesting situation where technology has once again outpaced our govt's control. The average person can equip a plane for at least 40-50 minutes of flight (I get 25-30 with a single 3s 5000mah) with long range equipment. 10's of thousands of feet up and over 20 miles in range. GPS, autonomous flight, multi axis self leveling, return to home, return to land, etc. It's pure awesomeness for a geek like me! All for a reasonable cost. And that was at least a YEAR ago!!
I would love to have the option to legally file a flight plan and fly long range. Unfortunately they are trying to work against us FPV flyers instead of with us. The pilots are not going anywhere, the technology is not going anywhere but up quickly and the flights are not going to stop. Check this out as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wkBaY86ORI This was done OVER 2 YEARS ago!! I'm not condoning what they did, but I would be lying if I said I have not given some serious thought to this!!!
I guess all I am saying (as I have before) is that you will NEVER stop the stupid people from flying in stupid places. Not going to happen. Not possible. Think where we will be next Christmas.
One last thing; I see quite a bit of people unhappy with Model Aviation. Why is that? I think they cover lots of diferent stuff and I enjoy reading it as does my son (well, he looks at the pictures )
Sorry for rambling. I have not posted in a bit and just had some thoughts to get out.
I would love to have the option to legally file a flight plan and fly long range. Unfortunately they are trying to work against us FPV flyers instead of with us. The pilots are not going anywhere, the technology is not going anywhere but up quickly and the flights are not going to stop. Check this out as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wkBaY86ORI This was done OVER 2 YEARS ago!! I'm not condoning what they did, but I would be lying if I said I have not given some serious thought to this!!!
I guess all I am saying (as I have before) is that you will NEVER stop the stupid people from flying in stupid places. Not going to happen. Not possible. Think where we will be next Christmas.
One last thing; I see quite a bit of people unhappy with Model Aviation. Why is that? I think they cover lots of diferent stuff and I enjoy reading it as does my son (well, he looks at the pictures )
Sorry for rambling. I have not posted in a bit and just had some thoughts to get out.
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If you doubt I knew AC 91-57A existed, then you can check my previous posts to confirm as I've mentioned it many times. Despite mentioning it and providing a link to it many times, it appears few have actually taken the time to read or understand it. It's interesting to note the word "drone" isn't mentioned in there once.
#2183
Long ago when I posted AC 91-57A some claimed to have read it and said it was no different than AC 91-57. Seems if you're going to at least attempt to have some intelligent conversation everyone needs to be on the same page with terminology and definitions (even if they don't agree with them) from the authoritative source, in the case the FAA. IMHO much of the confusion in this, and many other threads, centers around folks interpretation of the meaning of the word "drone" yet AC 91-57A doesn't even contain the word drone. Go figure.
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The link I posted was to show AC 91-57 was officially cancelled.
If you doubt I knew AC 91-57A existed, then you can check my previous posts to confirm as I've mentioned it many times. Despite mentioning it and providing a link to it many times, it appears few have actually taken the time to read or understand it. It's interesting to note the word "drone" isn't mentioned in there once.
If you doubt I knew AC 91-57A existed, then you can check my previous posts to confirm as I've mentioned it many times. Despite mentioning it and providing a link to it many times, it appears few have actually taken the time to read or understand it. It's interesting to note the word "drone" isn't mentioned in there once.
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Posted by poricia83
"It's not going to be a priority, and it's not going to happen. I mentioned it earlier, and will do so again. The title of this thread is like clickbaiting titles from AOL and Buzzfeed. The realy "story" if you can call it that was about "DRONES"....nowhere did it say anything about aircraft. But that didn't stop the the select few who are anti AMA and anti govt from spinning this as an AMA failure, and in classic propaganda like fashion, try to twist this into the whole hobby being affected.
What is proposed, and floated as a trial balloon to gauge acceptance of the public and constituents, and what will actually BE, are two different things. Regulation of big time commerical drones that will affect air space is a no brainer, that makes sense. The involvement of hobby grade stuff, not so much. I don't buy into the DOT or FAA making some bizarre "power grab" looking for this to be a new area to delve into, they can barely manage what's on their plate right now.
I don't think anyone has to worry about their UMX Carbon Z Cub being registered anytime soon. It's just not going to happen. The alarmists should just stop already."
I'm done.
Mike
"It's not going to be a priority, and it's not going to happen. I mentioned it earlier, and will do so again. The title of this thread is like clickbaiting titles from AOL and Buzzfeed. The realy "story" if you can call it that was about "DRONES"....nowhere did it say anything about aircraft. But that didn't stop the the select few who are anti AMA and anti govt from spinning this as an AMA failure, and in classic propaganda like fashion, try to twist this into the whole hobby being affected.
What is proposed, and floated as a trial balloon to gauge acceptance of the public and constituents, and what will actually BE, are two different things. Regulation of big time commerical drones that will affect air space is a no brainer, that makes sense. The involvement of hobby grade stuff, not so much. I don't buy into the DOT or FAA making some bizarre "power grab" looking for this to be a new area to delve into, they can barely manage what's on their plate right now.
I don't think anyone has to worry about their UMX Carbon Z Cub being registered anytime soon. It's just not going to happen. The alarmists should just stop already."
I'm done.
Mike
You're never done..c'mon.
So will you be lining up to register all your planes? I know you want to avoid answering that question and go back to "registration" as a catch all...but will you be registering every one of your aircraft?
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One didn't need to be too "gifted" even back then to be able to see how future advances in electronic miniaturization would expand capabilities at lower costs.
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To those "Trend Setters" who dedicated their entire lives to being the first kid on the block to have .....
a Schwinn Stingray with a Banana Boat seat
a Monkees lunch pail
a color TV
a car with FM reception
a house with a built in vacuum system
a CB radio in your car
Beatle Boots
One of those "garbage can" exhausts on the back of your Honda Civic
a "Mullet"
a $100 pocket calculator back in 1970
a "pager"
a complete set of carbon composite clubs to enhance your 90+ game
a house with all pea green appliances and pea green deep shag carpet.....
We salute you...!
a Schwinn Stingray with a Banana Boat seat
a Monkees lunch pail
a color TV
a car with FM reception
a house with a built in vacuum system
a CB radio in your car
Beatle Boots
One of those "garbage can" exhausts on the back of your Honda Civic
a "Mullet"
a $100 pocket calculator back in 1970
a "pager"
a complete set of carbon composite clubs to enhance your 90+ game
a house with all pea green appliances and pea green deep shag carpet.....
We salute you...!
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Unfortunately this is the type of plastic junk that gives multicopters a bad name. I see father / son teams at the park all the time trying to fly these. They are flimsy and have no weight or performance to cope with any sort of wind. Really just toys to be flown indoors.
Many times I have suggested it was too windy for them to fly and offered to help them on a calmer day. Many times they try anyway and destroy it on the first flight.
I actually feel bad for the father when this happens and will pretend to pack up saying its too windy for me to fly also. I wait until they drive off before flying again.
Nothing noble about embarrassing a father in front of his kid.
But a carbon fibre hobby grade acro multicopter has no trouble at all handling very strong winds.
Many times I have suggested it was too windy for them to fly and offered to help them on a calmer day. Many times they try anyway and destroy it on the first flight.
I actually feel bad for the father when this happens and will pretend to pack up saying its too windy for me to fly also. I wait until they drive off before flying again.
Nothing noble about embarrassing a father in front of his kid.
But a carbon fibre hobby grade acro multicopter has no trouble at all handling very strong winds.
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I'll register any of my "aircraft" with the FAA as long as I get an "N" number. If I have to jump thru all the hurdles & hoops the FAA want us too, I think I am initled to an "N" number.
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Forgive me if this was answered in the previous 80 pages, but how are these regulations even going to be enforced? Are we going to start having FAA examiners from the local FSDO sitting around the flying field on Saturday making sure everybody is registered? Are we going to start getting ramp checked by the FAA with our model airplanes just like full scale? I am afraid this simple registration is only the beginning.
I would rather have pay for one number for all of my aircraft, one time in my life, rather than having to pay for separate, unique "N" number every time build or buy a new aircraft.
#2199
I still have my first plane, it has never been crashed.
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Jato, it never fails.
I could make a generalized, blanket statement like "Each generation of Man gets progressively less active and more obese" and someone like you will chime in and say..."NOT TRUE..I run 50 miles a week and I have 2% body fat..!"
See how that works...?
I could make a generalized, blanket statement like "Each generation of Man gets progressively less active and more obese" and someone like you will chime in and say..."NOT TRUE..I run 50 miles a week and I have 2% body fat..!"
See how that works...?