Are you ready to register your aircraft?
#3101
I'm not at all concerned about the FAA exerting its authority. In fact, I kinda hope they deny the CBO request. I've always had an issue with a non-governmental organization that requires membership dues being allowed to serve as a "gatekeeper" of sorts to activities in taxpayer funded airspace. For example, if granted CBO status by FAA, then AMA is position to say no to UAS greater than 55lbs if you're not a member. That just rubs me the wrong way. I suspect it also didn't sit well with FAA, as they alluded to it in a couple of the comments they quoted.
#3102
Look Guys, My thoughts is to wait until after the 15th to see if the AMA legal actions get to the point to exception of all AMA members.
Call your VP on the 16th and see where the AMA is at. Then decide to sign up. No need to get the cart before the horse and give away your personal information.
Call your VP on the 16th and see where the AMA is at. Then decide to sign up. No need to get the cart before the horse and give away your personal information.
Given that the lawsuit hasn't moved in over a year, I'm not holding my breath. Registered on Monday, card is printed, laminated, and was in my wallet when I flew yesterday.
#3103
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 1,170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Do we have to have our models inspected and certified annually? Do we need to have an airworthiness certificate aboard? Do we have to keep a logbook of preventative maintenance? Is CA an approved adhesive for wood air frames? Is Monokote an approved wood "finish" for plywood?
So many questions.
So many questions.
#3104
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canisteo,
NY
Posts: 559
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm not at all concerned about the FAA exerting its authority. In fact, I kinda hope they deny the CBO request. I've always had an issue with a non-governmental organization that requires membership dues being allowed to serve as a "gatekeeper" of sorts to activities in taxpayer funded airspace. For example, if granted CBO status by FAA, then AMA is position to say no to UAS greater than 55lbs if you're not a member. That just rubs me the wrong way. I suspect it also didn't sit well with FAA, as they alluded to it in a couple of the comments they quoted.
#3105
Senior Member
My Feedback: (3)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Eldon, MO,
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Lawsuits get parked time to time and then moves forward after giving the parties time to act. Then they start moving again. Again there is no hurry.
If the AMA is able to get to excerpting us then the FAA and the 3rd party working with the FAA will not have my personal information.
Maybe some of you like giving away your personal information.
If the AMA is able to get to excerpting us then the FAA and the 3rd party working with the FAA will not have my personal information.
Maybe some of you like giving away your personal information.
#3106
#3107
Their ranking is trending down currently. Which tells me the site is not over loaded with modelers........ Oh, and here are stats....
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/https%...rmyuas.faa.gov
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/https%...rmyuas.faa.gov
#3108
I think the legal action may not be the same lawsuit. But I do understand that the lawsuit may now continue, off hold status.
#3109
#3110
My experience with the FAA over a 20+ year career has been nothing but positive. Whether negotiating for new SUA operations, support for special ops, or working out new procedures for handoff from my ATC facility to a civilian facility, I found them nothing but reasonable.
#3111
My experience with the FAA over a 20+ year career has been nothing but positive. Whether negotiating for new SUA operations, support for special ops, or working out new procedures for handoff from my ATC facility to a civilian facility, I found them nothing but reasonable.
#3112
I never saw Franklin post anything about leaving the hobby . The man has mentioned not continuing his AMA membership and I will neither applaud nor decry his decision on that . But rest assured , I'm sure Franklin can enjoy his model aircraft just fine whether there is an AMA card in his wallet or not .
PS , my only dealings with the FAA were involving my A&P , and I never had any problems with them either .....
#3113
My Feedback: (49)
Is that a trick Question ... Of course U always, Most of the time once in a while,Sometimes & on any occasion.
NEVER TRUST ANYTHING GOVERNMENT . Especially if it begins with the word Federal and is followed a Double AA. Not even trust a DOT or NTSB either. Now let's go for the Honesty we see in Congress.
Darn U got me started again ... Stop That.
NEVER TRUST ANYTHING GOVERNMENT . Especially if it begins with the word Federal and is followed a Double AA. Not even trust a DOT or NTSB either. Now let's go for the Honesty we see in Congress.
Darn U got me started again ... Stop That.
#3114
My Feedback: (49)
Originally Posted by mike1974
I'm glad the AMA is fighting back. The FAA kneejerk registration that does nothing to solve their problem might have been better if written by children. You never know, give the kids a chance, they have far more open minds than adults.
U Franklin_m: Should know better U've dealt with the FAA Right. They could not have made it any easier to register for FREE and Put a Number, ON/IN your R/C TOY. New Zealand and Canada Mandates U belong to their version of the AMA.
As for the FAA they could mandate registration of every R/C Toy U own and pay $25/Year too. Plus they could demand U have some form of federal license to fly your R/C Toys in the NAS. So Stop badmouthing the FAA/AMA and comply before they get smart and make impossible fo us to Enjoy our Hobby/Sport with Little to no BS.
Just saying the feds can make it as difficult as u can stand till U quit.
I'm glad the AMA is fighting back. The FAA kneejerk registration that does nothing to solve their problem might have been better if written by children. You never know, give the kids a chance, they have far more open minds than adults.
I'm not at all concerned about the FAA exerting its authority. In fact, I kinda hope they deny the CBO request. I've always had an issue with a non-governmental organization that requires membership dues being allowed to serve as a "gatekeeper" of sorts to activities in taxpayer funded airspace. For example, if granted CBO status by FAA, then AMA is position to say no to UAS greater than 55lbs if you're not a member. That just rubs me the wrong way. I suspect it also didn't sit well with FAA, as they alluded to it in a couple of the comments they quoted.
As for the FAA they could mandate registration of every R/C Toy U own and pay $25/Year too. Plus they could demand U have some form of federal license to fly your R/C Toys in the NAS. So Stop badmouthing the FAA/AMA and comply before they get smart and make impossible fo us to Enjoy our Hobby/Sport with Little to no BS.
Just saying the feds can make it as difficult as u can stand till U quit.
#3115
#3116
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,786
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#3118
Banned
My Feedback: (8)
My experience with the FAA over a 20+ year career has been nothing but positive. Whether negotiating for new SUA operations, support for special ops, or working out new procedures for handoff from my ATC facility to a civilian facility, I found them nothing but reasonable.
Although I've disagreed at time with his positions, his getting out (or not) isn't really relative to his ability to make comments pro or con regarding the FAA or AMA. Although he has indicated he was leaving the AMA as there was no need for it where he is living, he is still a member. For the record every org needs what some would be considered to be a gadfly (not saying franklin is, just saying in general). Orgs get myopic and might suffer from tunnel vision unless someone has the brass ones every now and then to speak there mind, even it it makes others feel uncomfortable. I used to shrink in the chair and go uh oh, here it comes, when one of the more vocal people in our club used to ask for a chance to speak or question the board. Sometimes it was like oh god, did he just go there? But ya...he did, and he needed to because some of us didn't know we should, or could. Lot's has been said of the AMA over the past two years, good and bad. I doubt the EC spends time here reading what is written, it's typically pretty anti-AMA in general, but through it all might be some good suggestions. They did the survey a while back and hopefully glean some useful information from that as well. I trust that the EC has best intentions for the membership, but if they never seek membership feedback, I think that's a missed opportunity.
#3119
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canisteo,
NY
Posts: 559
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My experience with the FAA over a 20+ year career has been nothing but positive. Whether negotiating for new SUA operations, support for special ops, or working out new procedures for handoff from my ATC facility to a civilian facility, I found them nothing but reasonable.
To be clear, I have zero problem with the FAA keeping the NAS and full scale aircraft safe. That's great! I want the NAS and full scale aircraft to be safe! Registration accomplishes none of that, and that is my problem with the whole thing.
#3120
I'm not at all concerned about the FAA exerting its authority. In fact, I kinda hope they deny the CBO request. I've always had an issue with a non-governmental organization that requires membership dues being allowed to serve as a "gatekeeper" of sorts to activities in taxpayer funded airspace. For example, if granted CBO status by FAA, then AMA is position to say no to UAS greater than 55lbs if you're not a member. That just rubs me the wrong way. I suspect it also didn't sit well with FAA, as they alluded to it in a couple of the comments they quoted.
#3122
Senior Member
My Feedback: (3)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Eldon, MO,
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well this is my first experience with the FAA and I don't rate them as high as you.
Let me just get this correct, RC needs to be Regulated but a home built ultralights man aircraft do not.
It's to keep the NAS safe. So an ultralight aircraft is not a concern if it hits an aircraft but an RC airplane is?
Looks like the FAA has too much time on their hands and maybe that is a place we could save tax payers of wasted man hours spent
But this is my first experience with the FAA.
Let me just get this correct, RC needs to be Regulated but a home built ultralights man aircraft do not.
It's to keep the NAS safe. So an ultralight aircraft is not a concern if it hits an aircraft but an RC airplane is?
Looks like the FAA has too much time on their hands and maybe that is a place we could save tax payers of wasted man hours spent
But this is my first experience with the FAA.
#3123
Banned
My Feedback: (8)
Well this is my first experience with the FAA and I don't rate them as high as you.
Let me just get this correct, RC needs to be Regulated but a home built ultralights man aircraft do not.
It's to keep the NAS safe. So an ultralight aircraft is not a concern if it hits an aircraft but an RC airplane is?
Looks like the FAA has too much time on their hands and maybe that is a place we could save tax payers of wasted man hours spent
But this is my first experience with the FAA.
Let me just get this correct, RC needs to be Regulated but a home built ultralights man aircraft do not.
It's to keep the NAS safe. So an ultralight aircraft is not a concern if it hits an aircraft but an RC airplane is?
Looks like the FAA has too much time on their hands and maybe that is a place we could save tax payers of wasted man hours spent
But this is my first experience with the FAA.
#3124
No I'm not. I'm contemplating leaving AMA, mostly because I haven't needed it to fly in the last two years. If I get through three years w/o needing it to fly the stuff I want to fly, then it's not a good use of my money.
#3125
I would submit that the pilot of a home built ultralight is much more interested in safe operations for one simple reason: If he's not safe, then he runs the risk of dying. RC pilots do not share that level of risk.