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06-09-2016, 07:14 PM
#5251
Originally Posted by HoundDog 
Porcie: if that were true then they would have not Interpenetrated #336 exactly the Opposite that congress intended. The Law of the LAND says NO New Rules For Model aircraft ... What's so hard to understand about that. We would not be having all this Huliblue if the FAA didn't think they were above Congress. Like I've said when dealing with the IRS FAA etc U are Guilty until U can prove your are innocent. Don't for get not one congressman senator came to the defense of the Amendment #336 Now did they. Nuff Said I stand by my convictions. Just keep your head down Fly like we always have, Stay out of Full Scales way and every thing will be OK.
I'm called a "doom and gloom" guy but the total disregard for Sec. 336 which is the law of the land is the main reason why I see things the way I do. Not one legislator has actually even brought this up amazes me but I'm not surprised since disregarding law is now acceptable behavior.
Mike
Mike
06-09-2016, 07:32 PM
#5252
Senior Member
"or the law enacted by Congress banning FAA rules for model aircraft."
banning NEW FAA rules is correct. The FAA claims that it just did not enforce the existing ones, as well as adding new ones
under "permissible" interpretations of existing law/regulation/rules.
banning NEW FAA rules is correct. The FAA claims that it just did not enforce the existing ones, as well as adding new ones
under "permissible" interpretations of existing law/regulation/rules.
06-10-2016, 08:25 AM
#5255
06-10-2016, 10:02 AM
#5256
Banned
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Being alive ain't bad If U have your Health and good friends to share it with. Just lost a long long member of our Local R/C club Many times an Officer from Pres right down to News Letter Editor. Hate to loose some one but we all come with a termination date. U just have to be ready. ...Besides No mater what level of involvement with R/C it is as Tony the Tiger says it's "Grrrrrrrrrrrreat". Yaa Alls have an awesome day now.
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04-26-2018, 10:18 PM
#5257
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My favoirite saying is "bad things happen because good people do (say) nothing".
sadly there iss alwayss some pompous, official or idiot who is always in the breach ready to or trying to put their mark on something.
They often dont care if its helpful or not or even that they are knowledgeable, its just a ready platform to make a mark.
We the hobby community must always counter BS wherever it appears sadly we have to keep half an eye open for this BS all the time it seems.
zombies are everywhere and jusst when you least expect it there will be another
sadly there iss alwayss some pompous, official or idiot who is always in the breach ready to or trying to put their mark on something.
They often dont care if its helpful or not or even that they are knowledgeable, its just a ready platform to make a mark.
We the hobby community must always counter BS wherever it appears sadly we have to keep half an eye open for this BS all the time it seems.
zombies are everywhere and jusst when you least expect it there will be another
05-04-2018, 07:11 AM
#5258
The whole problem is our law makers. Hey, how can we get in on this, and how much money can we get out of the people's pockets. let's set up an agency to take care of this, that will cost $$$,$$$,$$$ tax dollars and will never end. When are we going to have enough laws????? Our government is out of control and wants ALL your liberty and money!
07-17-2018, 02:48 AM
#5264
The only thing it's done so far is made the FAA a little more money ! Like most most "feel good " laws they don't accomplish much without enforcement.
As it's been said many times over, the credit card flyers creating the trouble could be and should be prosecuted under existing laws.
As it's been said many times over, the credit card flyers creating the trouble could be and should be prosecuted under existing laws.
07-17-2018, 03:41 AM
#5265
Like I've said all along laws should be enacted and the FAA through the News media should make it clear anyone flying anything R/C anyplace but a registered flying field must have a license and insurance just like automobile drivers. Probably wouldn't hurt for a few of our club members to have their flying skills tested to be allowed off the BUDDY BOX. Like Beretta used to say. "And U can Take that to the Bank" JMHO
Last edited by HoundDog; 07-17-2018 at 03:44 AM.
07-17-2018, 06:09 AM
#5266
To repeat myself from several years ago ;
"There wont be any FAA guys hiding behind every tree , just waiting for you to fly something without the required numbers on it , or waiting to nail you the minute your plane hits 401 feet above sea level . These laws have a twofold purpose , #1 being to identify the operator of a model aircraft that does end up planted into some jetliner's windshield , and #2 to have an established law to punish the guys who fly their drones without identification in case a similar incident happens" .
Now since I have not once been asked for such ID in the few years since , I'd say my answer WAS pretty much right on target then and still holds true today .....
07-17-2018, 07:53 AM
#5267
As well they should. Breaking the law is breaking the law weather you know your are breaking it or not. What the saying
"Ignorantia juris non excusat or ignorantia legis neminem excusat (Latin for "ignorance of the law excuses not" and "ignorance of law excuses no one" respectively) is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law maynot escape liability for violating that law merely because one was unaware of its content".
07-18-2018, 05:52 AM
#5268
Banned
Like I've said all along laws should be enacted and the FAA through the News media should make it clear anyone flying anything R/C anyplace but a registered flying field must have a license and insurance just like automobile drivers. Probably wouldn't hurt for a few of our club members to have their flying skills tested to be allowed off the BUDDY BOX. Like Beretta used to say. "And U can Take that to the Bank" JMHO
And how do you propose such a license be administered?
07-18-2018, 06:00 AM
#5269
Banned
The only thing it's done so far is made the FAA a little more money ! Like most most "feel good " laws they don't accomplish much without enforcement.
As it's been said many times over, the credit card flyers creating the trouble could be and should be prosecuted under existing laws.
As it's been said many times over, the credit card flyers creating the trouble could be and should be prosecuted under existing laws.
07-18-2018, 08:28 AM
#5270
Same way you License any driver in the USA. With a computer administrated test to prove aeronautical knowledge to be allowed operate anything R/C in the NAS (National Air Space). At least after taking a quiz and passing it the IDIOTS would know where when and how to operate an R/C craft in the NAS. Not that they would adhere to the rules any more than IDIOT drivers do to day.
07-18-2018, 09:13 AM
#5271
Banned
Same way you License any driver in the USA. With a computer administrated test to prove aeronautical knowledge to be allowed operate anything R/C in the NAS (National Air Space). At least after taking a quiz and passing it the IDIOTS would know where when and how to operate an R/C craft in the NAS. Not that they would adhere to the rules any more than IDIOT drivers do to day.
And again, what's so special about the so called registered flying field that gets passes on a license and insurance?
07-18-2018, 10:02 AM
#5272
99% of R/C flyers I've met off field don't know the rules nor do they follow any organized protocol. Most fly willy nilly all over the place. Over people, Parking Lots buildings ect. Non seem to have any regard for safety. When is the last time you have heard of any complaints of people flying at an organized flying site doing stupid stuff like flying over forest fires.
07-18-2018, 03:48 PM
#5273
Knowing what I know about the cost of IT support in the DC area (23 years experience at it), I seriously doubt the FAA saw a profit on this registration thing. at 5 bucks a head and some 900,000 total registrants, that comes to 4.5 million for the first 3 years. Minus those who took advantage of the initial free registration. Last IT support contract I was on ran $100,000,000 per year for 10 years. Granted, it was considerably more support than the new web sites for registration. But it wouldn't surprise me to find it included one or more new servers and related support for same.
This is the government we are talking about here. Of course things cost 2x+ what they do in the real world but the system was already in place for full scale pilot registration so it didn't need much tweaking. Regardless,we the taxpayers will end up footing any bill even after we pay the registration fee.
Wasn't there some old document that discusses double taxation ?
