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Old 11-19-2015, 04:24 AM
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Yesterday I saw a commercial on TV about a ski area that will be using drones this winter to hover 30 feet over the skiers and take photos of the skiers while they cruise along the snow . How can such an operation be AMA compliant when they are flying 30 feet over folk's heads ? Doesn't the FAA's press release about safe droning also mention avoiding flying over people ?

Last question ; As a society , are we really SO vain that we need "selfies" of each and every daily activity we participate in ?

PS , I think it was a New Hampshire ski area that was advertising this , NH or Maine , one of the two , in case any of you more computer savvy folks may want to search out the story .......
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http://www.firsttracksonline.com/201...on-the-slopes/

closest I can see to it, nothing about NH though. I doubt any public facility is going to be concerned with being compliant with AMA rules and regs. I suspect they would be looking at FAA rules/regs. Many if not all of the resorts have explicit language forbidding the use of MR. In the linked story it looks like a company is working on something where the skier has a wrist band and the MR will follow them in a special area of the resort, presumably far away from others. They pay $150.00 fee as well. If they know what they are doing and pay and sign waivers, and it's away from the public, I'd have no problem with it. Most of these places have waivers anyway for liability given the inherent danger involved in skiing, but there's no way I can see them allowing MR to zip over the heads of the public.
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/11/...en-new-jersey/

This ones better. Although "slams into truck" is a bit of a stretch.

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This would be a commercial enterprise. So AMA would not be involved. Some sort of commercial liability insurance would be used. This has nothing to do with our hobby.
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This would be a commercial enterprise. So AMA would not be involved. Some sort of commercial liability insurance would be used. This has nothing to do with our hobby.
Agreed, so why is AMA already at least $250K into romancing the commercial drone operators?
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They aren't.
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Originally Posted by cj_rumley
Agreed, so why is AMA already at least $250K into romancing the commercial drone operators?
CJ, where did you read that information? A link would be helpful.
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There is no link......
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Originally Posted by porcia83
They aren't.
You've got your game out of order. Too late for denial, you've already used the apologist ruse.
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Originally Posted by cj_rumley
You've got your game out of order. Too late for denial, you've already used the apologist ruse.
Porcia contends that unless you can furnish him with an AMA expense ledger entry that is specifically titled "Romancing The Drones" that there is no truth to their involvement in this endeavour..
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Originally Posted by FLAPHappy
CJ, where did you read that information? A link would be helpful.
Here you go, FLAPHappy:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/organization/ec/0714ecminutes.aspx


Under para heading FAA/Government Relations, see UAS Program
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Originally Posted by TimJ
This would be a commercial enterprise. So AMA would not be involved. Some sort of commercial liability insurance would be used. This has nothing to do with our hobby.
TimJ-

Just a thought - it would be in fairness to make note that your (our) DX VP voted against the AMA program overtures to commercial operators of UAS. Good on him.
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Originally Posted by cj_rumley
You've got your game out of order. Too late for denial, you've already used the apologist ruse.
I don't think so. I'm no more an apologist that you are a low effort thinker. Neither make sense. Disappointing to see you sink to the name calling/lable/generalization game that others have played. Carry on as you see fit.
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I don't think so. I'm no more an apologist that you are a low effort thinker. Neither make sense. Disappointing to see you sink to the name calling/lable/generalization game that others have played. Carry on as you see fit.
OK, just fixated on denial then. The apologetics weren't such a much anyhow, and so low effort to diss.
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At the end of the day, nothing to apologize for or be in denial over...or for that matter overthink. The did what they did, they will do what they do, and it won't create any seismic shift in the force. For anyone to still be bitter and still complaining about it seems like a total waste of time and energy. Folks will do as they see fit. Still plenty of time for flying.
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Originally Posted by porcia83
At the end of the day, nothing to apologize for or be in denial over...or for that matter overthink. The did what they did, they will do what they do, and it won't create any seismic shift in the force. For anyone to still be bitter and still complaining about it seems like a total waste of time and energy. Folks will do as they see fit. Still plenty of time for flying.
Agreed. Don't gloat over that.
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I'll gloat about flying time anytime I want thank you very much....you CA guys get year round flying weather, us CT folk gotta get while the gettin is good. 50 degrees tomorrow with 10-20mph gusts. Perfect!
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Originally Posted by porcia83
At the end of the day, nothing to apologize for or be in denial over...or for that matter overthink. The did what they did, they will do what they do, and it won't create any seismic shift in the force. For anyone to still be bitter and still complaining about it seems like a total waste of time and energy. Folks will do as they see fit. Still plenty of time for flying.
You preach about wasted time and energy and how little effect it has on reality yet you type out 10 times the amount of message traffic here than the average commenter.
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Says the guy with 19,000 posts, and who just took the time to calculate my comments against the thread traffic of RCU? Mkay. Are you intent on taking every thread off course with personal attacks?
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Originally Posted by porcia83
Says the guy with 19,000 posts, and who just took the time to calculate my comments against the thread traffic of RCU? Mkay. Are you intent on taking every thread off course with personal attacks?
You make comments about how others waste their time here....often.
I simply pointed out the ridiculous hypocrisy.
If you refuse to acknowledge it, that should come as a surprise to no one.
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Whatever rage or grief of anger drives the comments, I hope you find peace and contentment. Happy Holidays.
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Originally Posted by porcia83
Whatever rage or grief of anger drives the comments, I hope you find peace and contentment. Happy Holidays.
Yes, it must be rage or grief that drives my observations, how sophomoric of you to notice that.
May the teflon be with you.
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i am thinking that the FAA may have "bigger" flying fish to fry real soon

http://onemandrone.com/

and yes the placement in the thread about "stupid" is intentional.
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Originally Posted by mongo
i am thinking that the FAA may have "bigger" flying fish to fry real soon

http://onemandrone.com/

and yes the placement in the thread about "stupid" is intentional.

Much much bigger:



Or:


The one man drone link looks cool of course from a technology standpoint, but it screams "kickstarter" failure. Gotta love pipedreams though!
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I've got mine ordered.

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