View Poll Results: Was it a mistake or not for the AMA to embrace drones ?
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Yes or No , Do you think the AMA was right or wrong to embrace DRONES ?
#677
Banned
My Feedback: (8)
Don't forget beyond line of site started well before multi-rotors came around, and many of the MR's do NOT fly blos. I was at a club meeting the other nice and some members who are part of a neighboring club were talking about how they had to ban FPV flying, of all types, because they continued to have problems with a few members of the club. They were flying to high, to far from the club, and even getting to close to a local airport. These were all seasoned RC guys, AMA too...and they were all flying fixed wing aircraft (skysurfers and bixlers). These were NOT multi-rotors or drones.
#678
My Feedback: (49)
Here we go AGAIN with this "drone" = ONLY multi-rotor hovering and flying apparatus non-sense.
Once more, I can see someone who doesn't know jack about RC thinking this, 'cause all the ads they see (like Horizon Hobby's ads in the AMA magazine) that show multi-rotor contraptions call them "drones." But folks who've been around RC should know better. RC flying apparatus = sUAS = "drone" as far as the FAA - and FAA registration (with stipulations) - is concerned.
Tell you what: if the FAA shows up and you're flying your RC jet, tell him it's not a "drone"...and even better tell him that because YOU'VE deemed it's not a "drone" (because it's not a multi-rotor hovering and flying contraption, it's a JET!) you don't need to register. Heck, it may work out real well for you. Plunk down $27,500 and go for it!
Once more, I can see someone who doesn't know jack about RC thinking this, 'cause all the ads they see (like Horizon Hobby's ads in the AMA magazine) that show multi-rotor contraptions call them "drones." But folks who've been around RC should know better. RC flying apparatus = sUAS = "drone" as far as the FAA - and FAA registration (with stipulations) - is concerned.
Tell you what: if the FAA shows up and you're flying your RC jet, tell him it's not a "drone"...and even better tell him that because YOU'VE deemed it's not a "drone" (because it's not a multi-rotor hovering and flying contraption, it's a JET!) you don't need to register. Heck, it may work out real well for you. Plunk down $27,500 and go for it!
If The FAA would "NOT" consider every thing that we consider a Model and Make the Rules only for What the Sane People of the world consider "DRONES". But No the FAA wants to CONTROL every thing that is not tied to the earth and flies through any where in the NAS. What the AMA should be fighting for,,is that there has not any issues and will continue to be a non Issue when flying with in a 1/4 mile and up to 1500' AGL at all registered flying fields in the USA weather they are AMA or not. Now that the AMA & FAA are adversaries this becoming Reality is about the same chance as a snow balls chance in He[[.
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#681
Banned
My Feedback: (8)
That you didn't hear of it until MR's doesn't mean it wasn't happening. There are hundreds if not thousands of videos online of people flying FPV with fixed wings, way before the flying blenders came along. Honestly when I watch those video's I'm more amazed that nothing happened back then. We're talking gliders that could go upwards of 9000 feet and fly for 30 plus minutes. Absolutely irresponsible and reckless in my view. As bad or worse then some of the goofy things the "drone" pilots have done over the past year. The term "drone" has been demonized in part by the media and to some degree in equal part by RC modelers who quite frankly hate that discipline of flying.
#682
My Feedback: (1)
I will give you that, just because I have not heard about does not mean it was not happening, but when I started to hear all the negative that we have heard was when the multi rotors came to be. Then it's been one bad story after bad story, that has put us all in a negative light! And I do understand how people are getting upset about them flying over the yards, the guy that shot the one down won in court, did not have to pay anything, kind of sure I would have done the same thing if someone was spying on my sunbathing daughters!
#683
My Feedback: (49)
That you didn't hear of it until MR's doesn't mean it wasn't happening. There are hundreds if not thousands of videos online of people flying FPV with fixed wings, way before the flying blenders came along. Honestly when I watch those video's I'm more amazed that nothing happened back then. We're talking gliders that could go upwards of 9000 feet and fly for 30 plus minutes. Absolutely irresponsible and reckless in my view. As bad or worse then some of the goofy things the "drone" pilots have done over the past year. The term "drone" has been demonized in part by the media and to some degree in equal part by RC modelers who quite frankly hate that discipline of flying.
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#684
#685
BTW here is an Air Force drone crash from 2013. It is actually a full scale F-4 used for training.
http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/U...215826301.html
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#686
#688
We're talking gliders that could go upwards of 9000 feet and fly for 30 plus minutes. Absolutely irresponsible and reckless in my view.
#689
I recall that one of the first ones the FAA got upset about was Trappy flying a fixed wing drone around the Statue of Liberty. Then others were flying them over the Brooklyn Bridge.
#690
My Feedback: (55)
And as anyone who's logged any appreciable number of years on this planet should know, ANY TIME a government bureaucracy has to do "something", it will most always include placing even more onerous rules and regulations on those who had absolutely nothing to do with the problem said bureaucracy is "solving."
Oh, and I'll say this to those people that say here that these multi-rotors don't fly themselves and take some skill: My ass. I've got a DJI Phantom 2 and I've let relatives and friends fly the thing. Not ONE has crashed it. Once it's got enough GPS satellites, all the operator needs to do is coax the dadgum thing, and just let go of the sticks if he gets AFU...it'll just sit there until you get YOUR head out of your posterior. Totally gooned up? Just flick the switch and it will "come home"...a child of 5 can do it, and that's why our hobby has the FAA crawling all over it now.
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#692
Banned
My Feedback: (8)
Absolutely. Problem is, the explosion of multi-rotor "drones" with GPS integration and a camera system - which invited all the idiocy we've seen - forced the FAA's hand. They HAD to do "something"!
And as anyone who's logged any appreciable number of years on this planet should know, ANY TIME a government bureaucracy has to do "something", it will most always include placing even more onerous rules and regulations on those who had absolutely nothing to do with the problem said bureaucracy is "solving."
Oh, and I'll say this to those people that say here that these multi-rotors don't fly themselves and take some skill: My ass. I've got a DJI Phantom 2 and I've let relatives and friends fly the thing. Not ONE has crashed it. Once it's got enough GPS satellites, all the operator needs to do is coax the dadgum thing, and just let go of the sticks if he gets AFU...it'll just sit there until you get YOUR head out of your posterior. Totally gooned up? Just flick the switch and it will "come home"...a child of 5 can do it, and that's why our hobby has the FAA crawling all over it now.
And as anyone who's logged any appreciable number of years on this planet should know, ANY TIME a government bureaucracy has to do "something", it will most always include placing even more onerous rules and regulations on those who had absolutely nothing to do with the problem said bureaucracy is "solving."
Oh, and I'll say this to those people that say here that these multi-rotors don't fly themselves and take some skill: My ass. I've got a DJI Phantom 2 and I've let relatives and friends fly the thing. Not ONE has crashed it. Once it's got enough GPS satellites, all the operator needs to do is coax the dadgum thing, and just let go of the sticks if he gets AFU...it'll just sit there until you get YOUR head out of your posterior. Totally gooned up? Just flick the switch and it will "come home"...a child of 5 can do it, and that's why our hobby has the FAA crawling all over it now.
#693
Absolutely. Problem is, the explosion of multi-rotor "drones" with GPS integration and a camera system - which invited all the idiocy we've seen - forced the FAA's hand. They HAD to do "something"!
And as anyone who's logged any appreciable number of years on this planet should know, ANY TIME a government bureaucracy has to do "something", it will most always include placing even more onerous rules and regulations on those who had absolutely nothing to do with the problem said bureaucracy is "solving."
Oh, and I'll say this to those people that say here that these multi-rotors don't fly themselves and take some skill: My ass. I've got a DJI Phantom 2 and I've let relatives and friends fly the thing. Not ONE has crashed it. Once it's got enough GPS satellites, all the operator needs to do is coax the dadgum thing, and just let go of the sticks if he gets AFU...it'll just sit there until you get YOUR head out of your posterior. Totally gooned up? Just flick the switch and it will "come home"...a child of 5 can do it, and that's why our hobby has the FAA crawling all over it now.
And as anyone who's logged any appreciable number of years on this planet should know, ANY TIME a government bureaucracy has to do "something", it will most always include placing even more onerous rules and regulations on those who had absolutely nothing to do with the problem said bureaucracy is "solving."
Oh, and I'll say this to those people that say here that these multi-rotors don't fly themselves and take some skill: My ass. I've got a DJI Phantom 2 and I've let relatives and friends fly the thing. Not ONE has crashed it. Once it's got enough GPS satellites, all the operator needs to do is coax the dadgum thing, and just let go of the sticks if he gets AFU...it'll just sit there until you get YOUR head out of your posterior. Totally gooned up? Just flick the switch and it will "come home"...a child of 5 can do it, and that's why our hobby has the FAA crawling all over it now.
#694
#696
Flying BLOS is illegal per the FAA. It is not clear if BLOS capable aircraft are illegal. I say per because there is at least one case where the courts may say the FAA has no jurisdiction for any aircraft below navigable airspace.
#697
My Feedback: (55)
Seems to me you are saying here that simply flying a BLOS-capable sUAS - whether engaging in BLOS ops or not - is illegal and will result in confiscation. I don't doubt you at all, I'm sure you're right...and I was just saying I'm also sure that someone will post soon the FAA language supporting your statement.
#698
Seems to me you are saying here that simply flying a BLOS-capable sUAS - whether engaging in BLOS ops or not - is illegal and will result in confiscation. I don't doubt you at all, I'm sure you're right...and I was just saying I'm also sure that someone will post soon the FAA language supporting your statement.
#699
Banned
My Feedback: (8)
Seems to me you are saying here that simply flying a BLOS-capable sUAS - whether engaging in BLOS ops or not - is illegal and will result in confiscation. I don't doubt you at all, I'm sure you're right...and I was just saying I'm also sure that someone will post soon the FAA language supporting your statement.