" NO RADIO CONTROLLED " of any type to be allowed in Albany Country, NY
12-06-2015, 08:13 AM
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Honestly , Hound , there is no need to fear banishment . I am most certainly NOT anyone who embraces "PC" culture , but a proper sense of fairness goes a long way in understanding where certain folks are coming from here . In 804's case , we have a guy who is perfectly fine with Black folks excluding whites , via groups like the OBAP , but sees the confedarate flag as racist against blacks ? In other words , only white folks can be racist (the flag) but when blacks form exclusive black only groups (the OBAP) that isn't racism against whites . Well too bad for him , racism DOES cut BOTH ways and only someone with blinders on , or with an agenda of nothing but recreational arguing , can't see that . I have told both 804 and his cohorts in my thread that I'm done answering their politician inspired doublespeak and I truly mean it , I have nothing more to say to folks so intentionally obtuse ......
12-06-2015, 12:56 PM
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Honestly , Hound , there is no need to fear banishment . I am most certainly NOT anyone who embraces "PC" culture , but a proper sense of fairness goes a long way in understanding where certain folks are coming from here . In 804's case , we have a guy who is perfectly fine with Black folks excluding whites , via groups like the OBAP , but sees the confedarate flag as racist against blacks ? In other words , only white folks can be racist (the flag) but when blacks form exclusive black only groups (the OBAP) that isn't racism against whites . Well too bad for him , racism DOES cut BOTH ways and only someone with blinders on , or with an agenda of nothing but recreational arguing , can't see that . I have told both 804 and his cohorts in my thread that I'm done answering their politician inspired doublespeak and I truly mean it , I have nothing more to say to folks so intentionally obtuse .....].
12-06-2015, 01:30 PM
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Honestly , Hound , there is no need to fear banishment . I am most certainly NOT anyone who embraces "PC" culture , but a proper sense of fairness goes a long way in understanding where certain folks are coming from here . In 804's case , we have a guy who is perfectly fine with Black folks excluding whites , via groups like the OBAP , but sees the confedarate flag as racist against blacks ? In other words , only white folks can be racist (the flag) but when blacks form exclusive black only groups (the OBAP) that isn't racism against whites . Well too bad for him , racism DOES cut BOTH ways and only someone with blinders on , or with an agenda of nothing but recreational arguing , can't see that . I have told both 804 and his cohorts in my thread that I'm done answering their politician inspired doublespeak and I truly mean it , I have nothing more to say to folks so intentionally obtuse ......I can't expect a man of your intellect
to understand.
12-06-2015, 01:40 PM
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Actually, I agree with Init4fun in this case. When an organization specifically names a race in it's name, black in this case, it's racist per the definition of the term. When Congress outlawed the Confederate flag, it was deemed to be racist due to slavery in our nation's past. As said, if one's not racist, the other can't be either. Therefore, I tend to think it's you and your limited intellect that doesn't understand
12-06-2015, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by init4fun 
Honestly , Hound , there is no need to fear banishment . I am most certainly NOT anyone who embraces "PC" culture , but a proper sense of fairness goes a long way in understanding where certain folks are coming from here . In 804's case , we have a guy who is perfectly fine with Black folks excluding whites , via groups like the OBAP , but sees the confedarate flag as racist against blacks ? In other words , only white folks can be racist (the flag) but when blacks form exclusive black only groups (the OBAP) that isn't racism against whites . Well too bad for him , racism DOES cut BOTH ways and only someone with blinders on , or with an agenda of nothing but recreational arguing , can't see that . I have told both 804 and his cohorts in my thread that I'm done answering their politician inspired doublespeak and I truly mean it , I have nothing more to say to folks so intentionally obtuse ......It's ok, init.
I can't expect a man of your intellect
to understand.
Actually, I agree with Init4fun in this case. When an organization specifically names a race in it's name, black in this case, it's racist per the definition of the term. When Congress outlawed the Confederate flag, it was deemed to be racist due to slavery in our nation's past. As said, if one's not racist, the other can't be either. Therefore, I tend to think it's you and your limited intellect that doesn't understand
I suggest we all go back to DISCUSTING Dialogue about the FAA/AMA/CBO/ or how cheap we are cause we don't want to pay an extra couple of bucks to promote the Hobby/Sport and leave PC and any Politics some place else.
12-06-2015, 02:40 PM
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What the H E double hockey sticks does any of this got to do with " NO RADIO CONTROLLED " or any of the other forums we all are discussing about what the FAA might do or may not even do anything at all. What does it even have to do with the AMA or got to do with Black anyhing or the Confederate Flag. Witch no one alive today ever come close to fighting for against it or what it supposedly stood for. The Civil War and Slavery has been over for 151+ years so it has no place in these discussions or any place in American society. It was all decided 151 years ago and the Americans won and lost.
I suggest we all go back to DISCUSTING Dialogue about the FAA/AMA/CBO/ or how cheap we are cause we don't want to pay an extra couple of bucks to promote the Hobby/Sport and leave PC and any Politics some place else.
I should be in agreement with you as I don't like off-topic diversions in general.
I thought about that before replying to Granpooba in response to a comment he made about the Confederate flag. Note that he is the OP in the thread, and so IMHO the guy that has the say as to what the topic is/isn't. It is a drift from the central topic that most readers are interested in though(presumed, that's why they opened the thread), and that should carry more weight. My bad for replying and contributing to that drift, and hopefully it will return to discussion relevant to the Subject line.
12-06-2015, 02:59 PM
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Tomorrow 7 Dec. 2015 AT 7:55 am HST it will be the first
27,028 days that will "Live in Infamy".
Calculate duration between two dates – results
From and including: Sunday, December 7, 1941
To, but not including Monday, December 7, 2015
Result: 27,028 days
It is 27,028 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Or 74 years excluding the end date
Alternative time units
27,028 days can be converted to one of these units:
- 2,335,219,200 seconds
- 38,920,320 minutes
- 648,672 hours
- 27,028 days
- 3861 weeks and 1 day
- 7404.93% of a common year (365 days)
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12-06-2015, 03:14 PM
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Tomorrow 7 Dec. 2015 AT 7:55 am HST it will be the first
27,028 days that will "Live in Infamy".
Calculate duration between two dates – results
From and including: Sunday, December 7, 1941
To, but not including Monday, December 7, 2015
Result: 27,028 days
It is 27,028 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date
Or 74 years excluding the end date
Alternative time units
27,028 days can be converted to one of these units:
- 2,335,219,200 seconds
- 38,920,320 minutes
- 648,672 hours
- 27,028 days
- 3861 weeks and 1 day
- 7404.93% of a common year (365 days)
12-06-2015, 04:32 PM
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All the more reason to Educate the Public & Drone Flyers and as a last resort allow RC flying only at designated R/C Flying sites. These sites could be labeled by the FAA as Alert Areas and charted on Aeronautical sectionals (Airplane Maps).
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/111522/
The AIM's definition of an Alert Area:
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3-4-6. Alert Areas
Alert areas are depicted on aeronautical charts to inform nonparticipating pilots of areas that may contain a high volume of pilot training or an unusual type of aerial activity. Pilots should be particularly alert when flying in these areas. All activity within an alert area shall be conducted in accordance with CFRs, without waiver, and pilots of participating aircraft as well as pilots transiting the area shall be equally responsible for collision avoidance.
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/111522/
The AIM's definition of an Alert Area:
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3-4-6. Alert Areas
Alert areas are depicted on aeronautical charts to inform nonparticipating pilots of areas that may contain a high volume of pilot training or an unusual type of aerial activity. Pilots should be particularly alert when flying in these areas. All activity within an alert area shall be conducted in accordance with CFRs, without waiver, and pilots of participating aircraft as well as pilots transiting the area shall be equally responsible for collision avoidance.
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12-06-2015, 04:54 PM
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Actually, I agree with Init4fun in this case. When an organization specifically names a race in it's name, black in this case, it's racist per the definition of the term. When Congress outlawed the Confederate flag, it was deemed to be racist due to slavery in our nation's past. As said, if one's not racist, the other can't be either. Therefore, I tend to think it's you and your limited intellect that doesn't understand
I have never made any comparison between the black pilots group and the confederate flag, here or
inany other thread.
Init accuses me of saying there is no black against white
racism. I have never said that, here, nor anywhere else.
He also claims that I said I am perfectly fine with OBAP
excluding whites. They don't, and I never said it.
He also attributes to me the notion that only whites can be racist.
Never have said that either.
So , in essence, you sir are agreeing with
a liar.
12-06-2015, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HoundDog All the more reason to Educate the Public & Drone Flyers and as a last resort allow RC flying only at designated R/C Flying sites. These sites could be labeled by the FAA as Alert Areas and charted on Aeronautical sectionals (Airplane Maps).
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...d.main/111522/
The AIM's definition of an Alert Area:
------------------------------------------------------------
3-4-6. Alert Areas
Alert areas are depicted on aeronautical charts to inform nonparticipating pilots of areas that may contain a high volume of pilot training or an unusual type of aerial activity. Pilots should be particularly alert when flying in these areas. All activity within an alert area shall be conducted in accordance with CFRs, without waiver, and pilots of participating aircraft as well as pilots transiting the area shall be equally responsible for collision avoidance.
The will be designated by whom ever approves any Alert area. By description all AMA fields meet the criteria of an alert area.
12-06-2015, 06:58 PM
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Well, don't know for sure but it may
be that the confederate flag might be as offensive
to blacks as the swastika is to jews.
Removing either from public display,
especially gov't and public property, other
than museums perhaps, is
not erasing history. It is a gesture of
respect.
be that the confederate flag might be as offensive
to blacks as the swastika is to jews.
Removing either from public display,
especially gov't and public property, other
than museums perhaps, is
not erasing history. It is a gesture of
respect.
The Civil War was one of this countries saddest times and until my dying day I will respect all of those who fell. If my memory serves me correctly, one side was fighting for the Southern States of AMERICA and the other was fighting for the Northern States of AMERICA !
12-06-2015, 07:49 PM
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How is removing from display the Confederate Flag a gesture of respect ? Are you saying that all of the men and women who fought and died for the Southern States of America do not deserve any respect ? You also must be saying that if the South won the war and if the Confederate Flag was now our countries flag, then the Stars & Stripes should not be flown either ? Whether our citizens fought for the North or the South, they were all fighting for what they considered to be their country and all deserve our respect !!!
The Civil War was one of this countries saddest times and until my dying day I will respect all of those who fell. If my memory serves me correctly, one side was fighting for the Southern States of AMERICA and the other was fighting for the Northern States of AMERICA !
The Civil War was one of this countries saddest times and until my dying day I will respect all of those who fell. If my memory serves me correctly, one side was fighting for the Southern States of AMERICA and the other was fighting for the Northern States of AMERICA !
others around here.
First, no, I am not saying that if the South
had won, that the Stars and Stripes would be a disgrace.
I have absolutely no idea how you came up with that.
I have re-read my post and simply don't know how
to better explain my position. It stands as is.
12-06-2015, 08:56 PM
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the small town of celina ohio city council voted no flying any where in the city limits but when the resident of this small town read in the local paper what council did the phones of the council member's started ringing off the wall they caught so much flack at the next meeting they amended it and will start over in Jan of 2016
12-07-2015, 04:54 AM
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Actually, I agree with Init4fun in this case. When an organization specifically names a race in it's name, black in this case, it's racist per the definition of the term. When Congress outlawed the Confederate flag, it was deemed to be racist due to slavery in our nation's past. As said, if one's not racist, the other can't be either. Therefore, I tend to think it's you and your limited intellect that doesn't understand
You are clearly confused.
I have never made any comparison between the black pilots group and the confederate flag, here or
inany other thread.
Init accuses me of saying there is no black against white
racism. I have never said that, here, nor anywhere else.
He also claims that I said I am perfectly fine with OBAP
excluding whites. They don't, and I never said it.
He also attributes to me the notion that only whites can be racist.
Never have said that either.
So , in essence, you sir are agreeing with
a liar.
I have never made any comparison between the black pilots group and the confederate flag, here or
inany other thread.
Init accuses me of saying there is no black against white
racism. I have never said that, here, nor anywhere else.
He also claims that I said I am perfectly fine with OBAP
excluding whites. They don't, and I never said it.
He also attributes to me the notion that only whites can be racist.
Never have said that either.
So , in essence, you sir are agreeing with
a liar.
Hey Hydro , Now you see how racists like 804 really operate ! He puts word's in other's mouths , while accusing them of doing the same to him , and calls them Liars afterward . Nice guy to be attempting to have an intelligent conversation with , huh ? He thinks by calling folks liars & such it makes his position stronger when all it does is prove for all to see why I have terminated any and all communication with him . Racists do not and will not ever change , they walk among us in every one of life's endeavors : Work , Church , and yes even hobbies like flying RC airplanes are all plagued by them . Some hide it well , others not so much . Anyway , as has been mentioned earlier , the confederate flag thing did drag this thread off topic and I would have not responded except to call out the obvious BS of our resident racist Mr. 804 . Now that the confederate flag thing has been addressed I too hope this thread can get back on topic .
12-07-2015, 05:00 AM
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I look at it this way. I won't be doing any flying in Albany County NY any time in the near future so it just doesn't really matter to me. As long as boats are left unaffected, which is very likely, it's all good
12-07-2015, 05:03 AM
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I think your right , It will take one heck of a long time before model boats are seen as any kind of threat .
12-07-2015, 06:54 AM
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Actually, I agree with Init4fun in this case. When an organization specifically names a race in it's name, black in this case, it's racist per the definition of the term. When Congress outlawed the Confederate flag, it was deemed to be racist due to slavery in our nation's past. As said, if one's not racist, the other can't be either. Therefore, I tend to think it's you and your limited intellect that doesn't understand
12-07-2015, 07:03 AM
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FAA Model Aircraft OPERATIONS:The statutory parameters of a model aircraft operation are outlined in Section 336 of Public Law 112-95 (the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012) (PDF). Individuals who fly within the scope of these parameters do not require permission to operate their UAS; any flight outside these parameters (including any non-hobby, non-recreational operation) requires FAA authorization. For example, using a UAS to take photos for your personal use is recreational; using the same device to take photographs or videos for compensation or sale to another individual would be considered a non-recreational operation.
12-07-2015, 10:12 AM
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According to the FAA, section 336/112-95 is going to change, either before Christmas or shortly after the first of the year.
What we can do to make that change in our favor is pretty simple by just defining what a "drone" is. We need to clarify that the definition of a "drone" is any aircraft that has any type of control system in addition to a manual control system operated by a human pilot within unaided visual range. This means that the use of FPV and/or GPS guidance systems would make the aircraft a "drone". An aircraft operated by a pilot with a normal line of sight, manual control, would be a "model aircraft". The AMA really needs to get on board with this terminology, and distance themselves from FPV/GPS systems for our models. Let the "drone" community start their own sanctioning body like the AMA.
What we can do to make that change in our favor is pretty simple by just defining what a "drone" is. We need to clarify that the definition of a "drone" is any aircraft that has any type of control system in addition to a manual control system operated by a human pilot within unaided visual range. This means that the use of FPV and/or GPS guidance systems would make the aircraft a "drone". An aircraft operated by a pilot with a normal line of sight, manual control, would be a "model aircraft". The AMA really needs to get on board with this terminology, and distance themselves from FPV/GPS systems for our models. Let the "drone" community start their own sanctioning body like the AMA.
12-07-2015, 10:19 AM
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FAA Model Aircraft OPERATIONS:The statutory parameters of a model aircraft operation are outlined in Section 336 of Public Law 112-95 (the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012) (PDF). Individuals who fly within the scope of these parameters do not require permission to operate their UAS; any flight outside these parameters (including any non-hobby, non-recreational operation) requires FAA authorization. For example, using a UAS to take photos for your personal use is recreational; using the same device to take photographs or videos for compensation or sale to another individual would be considered a non-recreational operation.