It is official. You have to register your model with the FAA
#151
Pirker did not break any law. It all hinges on what is an airplane. The FAA has been gunning to control RC models for most of this administration. And it is above the FAA or else the NTSB would not have ruled as they did. St
#152
I thought he was referencing the multitude of reports the FAA gathered and the AMA is contesting as mostly false or misleading, those reports did not come directly from pilots. In some cases pilots did comment to the controller but the controller reported this to the FAA, yet no near miss report.
#153
Yes the FAA is over reaching by going after the hobby of RC. But this will not effect control line, string flyers or Free flight.
I understand the FAA also wanted to include teathered flight, blimp on a string but backed off of that group.
I don't think congress approved the FAA to control the air starting 1 inch above the ground.
What I find interesting is it was ok for the FAA to go after the FPV and multirotor group but now when it affects almost everyone in the hobby, now I see the huge amount of post here and on social media.
I understand the FAA also wanted to include teathered flight, blimp on a string but backed off of that group.
I don't think congress approved the FAA to control the air starting 1 inch above the ground.
What I find interesting is it was ok for the FAA to go after the FPV and multirotor group but now when it affects almost everyone in the hobby, now I see the huge amount of post here and on social media.
It does affect control line. I don't think it affects free flight. Maybe we should do a mass free flight event near an airport in protest! LOL
#155
Grandpooba. None of the accidents I mentioned were at my club field. Three totally different fields in two different states. Also, after doing this stuff for 60 years, I know a lot of modelers. Word gets around when your friends are involved.
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Also, it does not hinge on the definitions of an aircraft. It hinges on the guideline set by congress to be exempt.
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Per this link, first para, recreation modeling is exempt from registration??? false???
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...t_registry/UA/
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...t_registry/UA/
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Since we know this has been superseded by yesterdays action, I don;t think I would fall back on the fact they didn't update all of their websites as a defense
Per this link, first para, recreation modeling is exempt from registration??? false???
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...t_registry/UA/
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...t_registry/UA/
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Thanks for your input....NO DEFENSE intended....just wondering. Don't forget "Only US Citizens" are allowed to
register. So what about the 11 Million Illegals here? This would have been thwarted in the beginning if these drones
were registered when bought...of course if an unregistered drone/UA were to bring down a plane...then what?? Thought
provoking to say the least. Cheers!!!
register. So what about the 11 Million Illegals here? This would have been thwarted in the beginning if these drones
were registered when bought...of course if an unregistered drone/UA were to bring down a plane...then what?? Thought
provoking to say the least. Cheers!!!
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Another thing to consider, if it is determined the requirement is absolute, You can bet local clubs will have to check for compliance as insurance companies will look for any reason not to pay claims including, an incident while commiting a violation of federal law. Better check AMA's policy, and Your homeowner's. Just a thought.
Well I would have thought this, but yesterday the AMA said that CDs would not need to check for FAA registration compliance, at least not now.
And today they say that if one belongs to the AMA, said member can continue to fly his over 55 pound plane under the AMA LMA/LTMA program, protected by Sec 336.
No need to FAA register an over 55 pound LMA??
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But this latest doesn't supersede congress. Beside all the afore mentioned pages have been updated within the last year according to the bottom of the pages. Therefore even the FAA doesn't know what they are doing! LOL!!!
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Ad I'll be buying, and a few months from now once it is clarified that the FAA does not have this authority those that sold out will be kicking themselves. LOL!!!
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No 1.67 a year is not a hardship.but the real disgust and anger is that I feel blindsided both by the government and our own ama.I have always felt the drones would be our downfall .at 66 I will comply and feel glad I had nearly 40 years of traditional rc flying without big brother.my fear is this is the tip of the iceberg.I have said many times that ama should have divorced itself from these dam things.unfortnuate lyrics many issues will come about such as privacy.I personally won't let any drone hover on my territory and will do whatever it takes to get rid of it.yup these drones will turn our traditional rc hobby upside down.this is just the start of more regulation.disgusting.
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Youtube has caused us more trouble due to irresponsible actions from stupid people only looking for hits. This is the technology of today. With potential consequences including loss of life of the one performing the video or other bystanders (ie tornado chasing or capturing fires) I can realize the danger of an impact of a quad-copter or other rc controlled aircraft with an object or person.Saying that, I do not like the FAA/DOT having me to register my model aircraft, but by doing so if it saves one innocent life I am more than happy to register.Local law enforcement will be the ones to enforce the law. If I'm flying alone will someone from the local law enforcement ask for my credentials? I hope so because if not this law is only a money scam. When I first started flying model aircraft there were more crashes than successful flights. This was due to skill being learned. Today technology has changed all that. With the drones any kid could take off with a drone and fly it several thousand feet AGL by holding the throttle up. Who knows where it will end up? I don't like all the technology advances we have today, But here we are and we must deal with it. If an EMP from a unfriendly part took all our electricity then where would we be?
We still have the opportunity to enjoy our hobby but we will have to abide by the laws we have. As one lawyer/ Judge said to me "The one that has the most money wins" Do any of us have more money than the Government? I rest my case. Enjoy the hobby
We still have the opportunity to enjoy our hobby but we will have to abide by the laws we have. As one lawyer/ Judge said to me "The one that has the most money wins" Do any of us have more money than the Government? I rest my case. Enjoy the hobby
#171
It's not civil disobedience, the FAA can not supersede congress, congress passed the law, as long as we stay within the rules we are exempt from FAA's oversight. FAA agrees with the law congress passed and I would imagine their regulation will reflect this eventually. But in the meantime this is one area where I will not willingly hand over my "congress" given right!!!
I'm going to print a copy and keep it handy and if (I really don't see it happening) I'm ever "interrogated" I'll hand to to the inquiring party. The Law is the Law
Mike
#172
No, he did not break a law per say but he did fall under the FAA's umbrella by flying over buildings, people, and vehicles. Therefore the FAA was within their scope of authority to fine him.
Also, it does not hinge on the definitions of an aircraft. It hinges on the guideline set by congress to be exempt.
Also, it does not hinge on the definitions of an aircraft. It hinges on the guideline set by congress to be exempt.
#174
I don't believe the issue of whether or not we want to fund the government has ever been on the ballot.
#175
Better be sure that piece of paper will protect you. It might cost you $27,000 if it doesn't.
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