Wiped out! 14 AMA fields in VA MD DC
12-31-2015, 12:41 PM
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Oh for sure. Went to a show this year in NY, there was a husband and wife team that put on a demo during "show time". Great skills, really nice plane, and I might have even noticed her beauty afterwards. We have a few females in our club, not many who fly though. Tried to get a girl scout troop interested after the boy/cub scouts had their field day with us...crickets. If I could figure out a way to work in snapchat and facebook to the transmitter..i would. Yes, for boys too!
12-31-2015, 12:49 PM
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Porcia, I thought about whether i would fall for this obvious troll and i will only to clarify again, i find it odd that in one breath the FAA is working with us and in another separate breath the AMA govt relations blog says they closed the airspace, i honestly think DHS pulled the plug this time but regardless don't blame your dance partner for stepping on your shoes, also this whole thing was known since September when the FAA showed up at a flyin held by the SWAP club in suburban Baltimore.
Not sure what the comment about the FAA and a swap meet have to do with the discussion. We'll agree to disagree on the DHS versus SS...the SS will always have the last say, and the DHS will follow there lead in instances like this. There are however lots of alphabet soup agencies involved. Can you imagine being in a meeting or conference call with all of them. Yikes!
12-31-2015, 12:53 PM
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Sorry you feel that way. That was no more a "obvious troll" than this most recent comment of yours is. (always love those that call others and their posts trolls, all the while doing the same thing). It was your own words just used again to show what you were doing. The post was obvious, at least to me, as it was trying to somehow put this on the AMA. There is nothing incongruous about the FAA saying they continue to be in discussions with us, while at the same time the AMA notes the fields are closed. Both entities are stating FACTS....and that was validated again today with the contents of post # 94. Fields still closed..discussions continue.
Not sure what the comment about the FAA and a swap meet have to do with the discussion. We'll agree to disagree on the DHS versus SS...the SS will always have the last say, and the DHS will follow there lead in instances like this. There are however lots of alphabet soup agencies involved. Can you imagine being in a meeting or conference call with all of them. Yikes!
Not sure what the comment about the FAA and a swap meet have to do with the discussion. We'll agree to disagree on the DHS versus SS...the SS will always have the last say, and the DHS will follow there lead in instances like this. There are however lots of alphabet soup agencies involved. Can you imagine being in a meeting or conference call with all of them. Yikes!
SWAP is the name of an affected RC club in suburban Baltimore and I didn't say SWAP meet it was a flyin visited by the FAA
http://swaprc.org/SWAP/SWAP_R_C.html
At least try to do some fact checking
And again all I care about is getting these clubs in the air
If I wanted to blame the AMA completely for this mess I would, however I think this is just a mess we all need to work through together so blame no one or blame everyone I don;t care just solve the problem
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12-31-2015, 02:24 PM
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Jesus said, “Woe to you lawyers as well! For you weigh men down with burdens hard to bear, [SUP][a][/SUP]while you yourselves will not even touch the burdens with one of your fingers."
Luke 11:46
Jesus said, "Woe to you [SUP][al][/SUP]lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering.”
Luke 11:52
Obama said, "And, it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." Now they can add the RC drones to the list.
They will continue to ignore the AMA because they are afraid of another NRA on their hands.
Luke 11:46
Jesus said, "Woe to you [SUP][al][/SUP]lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering.”
Luke 11:52
Obama said, "And, it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." Now they can add the RC drones to the list.
They will continue to ignore the AMA because they are afraid of another NRA on their hands.
12-31-2015, 05:30 PM
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Nothing like doubling down when you're wrong. Love the part about not wanting to debate, guess you just want to have everyone agree with you blindly. Good thing they don't. It sucks that your field is shut down for now, blaming the AMA and going off on wild rants about them being a for profit entity isn't helping in the least bit.
The SFRA is defined as 30 nautical miles from the DCA VOR/DME. The DCA VOR/DME is located precisely at Lat/Long: 38-51-34.030N / 077-02-11.170W. http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid...ame=WASHINGTON
In addition to Google Earth, here’s an airman’s sectional map for cross reference: http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=38....77.038&zoom=10
Here are the measurements from the DCA VOR/DME to the center of the local flying club runways we’re familiar with and/or fly at, as measured by Google Earth. This data was also cross referenced and validated with a sectional chart:
DCRC 22.28 NM - effected
PGRC 15.79 NM - effected
LCAA 28.12 NM - effected
GSAA 29.85 NM - effected
...And the list goes on.
GSAA and LCAA are right on the fringe of the SFRA. How would you feel if you flew at either of these two fields, let alone any of the others effected? How about the FAA telling you they were going to enforce the No-fly rule at your field because a group of autonomous aircraft try-hard's, having largely vested only their money, screw up a hobby which began in 1937? How many bad decision making drone "pilots" who've made the news were actually AMA members?
This is about much more than just having to register. My kids have already shown a great interest and want to learn. Would be a great alternative to video games or being glued to a smart phone don't you think? Unfortunately they aren't legitimately allowed to fly until age 13 according to the ruling. Oh, and despite being minors, their names and street address will be public record. If you have children, am sure you would agree is clearly inappropriate. How would you feel about having to drive over an hour to get to a field every time you flew?
If Bob Violet, Dave Johnson, Kurt Cook, Chris Hinson, Al Young, etc. take it seriously enough to write the AMA a well thought out email, maybe you should consider which "team" you want to be on. It would seem the fight never really began for you living in Connecticut because you're not the one directly in the cross-hairs. Those of us in the no fly zone are justifiably disappointed! So please, try to be more understanding of those impacted and save the combative opinions for those who deserve it.
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12-31-2015, 05:40 PM
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Clearly the fight never really began for you living in Connecticut because you're not the one directly in the cross-hairs. Those of us in the no fly zone are justifiably disappointed! So please, try to be more understanding of those impacted and save the combative opinions for those who deserve it.
12-31-2015, 06:03 PM
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It's t e m p o r a r y . What's the big deal? And it's January. Do you guys in the DC area do a lot of flying in the dead of winter? Sounds like you're bored so you post something to get everybody all riled up. Go build an airplane and wait till mid-January. Everything's going to be ok.
12-31-2015, 06:09 PM
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Dude, This is not about blaming the AMA. This is clearly a disappointing blow and understandable vent with other modelers and/or similarly effected individuals who live within the no fly zone. FACT: The AMA is SUPPOSED to advocate for aeromodelers and last time I checked, drones by definition are autonomous, requiring little or no real piloting skill. I'd like to elaborate how this effects DC area modelers:
The SFRA is defined as 30 nautical miles from the DCA VOR/DME. The DCA VOR/DME is located precisely at Lat/Long: 38-51-34.030N / 077-02-11.170W. http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid...ame=WASHINGTON
In addition to Google Earth, here’s an airman’s sectional map for cross reference: http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=38....77.038&zoom=10
Here are the measurements from the DCA VOR/DME to the center of the local flying club runways we’re familiar with and/or fly at, as measured by Google Earth. This data was also cross referenced and validated with a sectional chart:
DCRC 22.28 NM - effected
PGRC 15.79 NM - effected
LCAA 28.12 NM - effected
GSAA 29.85 NM - effected
...And the list goes on.
GSAA and LCAA are right on the fringe of the SFRA. How would you feel if you flew at either of these two fields, let alone any of the others effected? How about the FAA telling you they were going to enforce the No-fly rule at your field because a group of autonomous aircraft try-hard's, having largely vested only their money, screw up a hobby which began in 1937? How many bad decision making drone "pilots" who've made the news were actually AMA members?
This is about much more than just having to register. My kids have already shown a great interest and want to learn. Would be a great alternative to video games or being glued to a smart phone don't you think? Unfortunately they aren't legitimately allowed to fly until age 13 according to the ruling. Oh, and despite being minors, their names and street address will be public record. If you have children, am sure you would agree is clearly inappropriate. How would you feel about having to drive over an hour to get to a field every time you flew?
If Bob Violet, Dave Johnson, Kurt Cook, Chris Hinson, Al Young, etc. take it seriously enough to write the AMA a well thought out email, maybe you should consider which "team" you want to be on. Clearly the fight never really began for you living in Connecticut because you're not the one directly in the cross-hairs. Those of us in the no fly zone are justifiably disappointed! So please, try to be more understanding of those impacted and save the combative opinions for those who deserve it.
The SFRA is defined as 30 nautical miles from the DCA VOR/DME. The DCA VOR/DME is located precisely at Lat/Long: 38-51-34.030N / 077-02-11.170W. http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid...ame=WASHINGTON
In addition to Google Earth, here’s an airman’s sectional map for cross reference: http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=38....77.038&zoom=10
Here are the measurements from the DCA VOR/DME to the center of the local flying club runways we’re familiar with and/or fly at, as measured by Google Earth. This data was also cross referenced and validated with a sectional chart:
DCRC 22.28 NM - effected
PGRC 15.79 NM - effected
LCAA 28.12 NM - effected
GSAA 29.85 NM - effected
...And the list goes on.
GSAA and LCAA are right on the fringe of the SFRA. How would you feel if you flew at either of these two fields, let alone any of the others effected? How about the FAA telling you they were going to enforce the No-fly rule at your field because a group of autonomous aircraft try-hard's, having largely vested only their money, screw up a hobby which began in 1937? How many bad decision making drone "pilots" who've made the news were actually AMA members?
This is about much more than just having to register. My kids have already shown a great interest and want to learn. Would be a great alternative to video games or being glued to a smart phone don't you think? Unfortunately they aren't legitimately allowed to fly until age 13 according to the ruling. Oh, and despite being minors, their names and street address will be public record. If you have children, am sure you would agree is clearly inappropriate. How would you feel about having to drive over an hour to get to a field every time you flew?
If Bob Violet, Dave Johnson, Kurt Cook, Chris Hinson, Al Young, etc. take it seriously enough to write the AMA a well thought out email, maybe you should consider which "team" you want to be on. Clearly the fight never really began for you living in Connecticut because you're not the one directly in the cross-hairs. Those of us in the no fly zone are justifiably disappointed! So please, try to be more understanding of those impacted and save the combative opinions for those who deserve it.
I feel your passion and your anger, but it's
12-31-2015, 06:09 PM
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Dude, This is not about blaming the AMA. This is clearly a disappointing blow and understandable vent with other modelers and/or similarly effected individuals who live within the no fly zone. FACT: The AMA is SUPPOSED to advocate for aeromodelers and last time I checked, drones by definition are autonomous, requiring little or no real piloting skill. I'd like to elaborate how this effects DC area modelers:
The SFRA is defined as 30 nautical miles from the DCA VOR/DME. The DCA VOR/DME is located precisely at Lat/Long: 38-51-34.030N / 077-02-11.170W. http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid...ame=WASHINGTON
In addition to Google Earth, here’s an airman’s sectional map for cross reference: http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=38....77.038&zoom=10
Here are the measurements from the DCA VOR/DME to the center of the local flying club runways we’re familiar with and/or fly at, as measured by Google Earth. This data was also cross referenced and validated with a sectional chart:
DCRC 22.28 NM - effected
PGRC 15.79 NM - effected
LCAA 28.12 NM - effected
GSAA 29.85 NM - effected
...And the list goes on.
GSAA and LCAA are right on the fringe of the SFRA. How would you feel if you flew at either of these two fields, let alone any of the others effected? How about the FAA telling you they were going to enforce the No-fly rule at your field because a group of autonomous aircraft try-hard's, having largely vested only their money, screw up a hobby which began in 1937? How many bad decision making drone "pilots" who've made the news were actually AMA members?
This is about much more than just having to register. My kids have already shown an a great interest and want to learn. Would be a great alternative to video games or being glued to a smart phone don't you think? Unfortunately they aren't legitimately allowed to fly until age 13 according to the ruling. Oh, and despite being minors, their names and street address will be public record. If you have children, am sure you would agree is clearly inappropriate. How would you feel about having to drive over an hour to get to a field every time you flew?
If Bob Violet, Dave Johnson, Kurt Cook, Chris Hinson, Al Young, etc. take it seriously enough to write the AMA a well thought out email, maybe you should consider which "team" you want to be on. Clearly the fight never really began for you living in Connecticut because you're not the one directly in the cross-hairs. Those of us in the no fly zone are justifiably disappointed! So please, try to be more understanding of those impacted and save the combative opinions for those who deserve it.
The SFRA is defined as 30 nautical miles from the DCA VOR/DME. The DCA VOR/DME is located precisely at Lat/Long: 38-51-34.030N / 077-02-11.170W. http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid...ame=WASHINGTON
In addition to Google Earth, here’s an airman’s sectional map for cross reference: http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=38....77.038&zoom=10
Here are the measurements from the DCA VOR/DME to the center of the local flying club runways we’re familiar with and/or fly at, as measured by Google Earth. This data was also cross referenced and validated with a sectional chart:
DCRC 22.28 NM - effected
PGRC 15.79 NM - effected
LCAA 28.12 NM - effected
GSAA 29.85 NM - effected
...And the list goes on.
GSAA and LCAA are right on the fringe of the SFRA. How would you feel if you flew at either of these two fields, let alone any of the others effected? How about the FAA telling you they were going to enforce the No-fly rule at your field because a group of autonomous aircraft try-hard's, having largely vested only their money, screw up a hobby which began in 1937? How many bad decision making drone "pilots" who've made the news were actually AMA members?
This is about much more than just having to register. My kids have already shown an a great interest and want to learn. Would be a great alternative to video games or being glued to a smart phone don't you think? Unfortunately they aren't legitimately allowed to fly until age 13 according to the ruling. Oh, and despite being minors, their names and street address will be public record. If you have children, am sure you would agree is clearly inappropriate. How would you feel about having to drive over an hour to get to a field every time you flew?
If Bob Violet, Dave Johnson, Kurt Cook, Chris Hinson, Al Young, etc. take it seriously enough to write the AMA a well thought out email, maybe you should consider which "team" you want to be on. Clearly the fight never really began for you living in Connecticut because you're not the one directly in the cross-hairs. Those of us in the no fly zone are justifiably disappointed! So please, try to be more understanding of those impacted and save the combative opinions for those who deserve it.
My former club the CBRC Chesapeake Bay Radio Control Club is shutdown and a lot of sweat equity went into that club and they are 6 nm inside the ring and have never had an issue.
Again, I don't care what the fault is here just solve the problem, but I still will contend the AMA doesn't help the situation by what they did with the Govt Relations Blog yesterday. Stop the blame game and fix it.
12-31-2015, 06:15 PM
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It's t e m p o r a r y . What's the big deal? And it's January. Do you guys in the DC area do a lot of flying in the dead of winter? Sounds like you're bored so you post something to get everybody all riled up. Go build an airplane and wait till mid-January. Everything's going to be ok.
It's t e m p o r a r y . What's the big deal? And it's January. Do you guys in the DC area do a lot of flying in the dead of winter? Sounds like you're bored so you post something to get everybody all riled up. Go build an airplane and wait till mid-January. Everything's going to be ok.
A lot of people have a tradition of flying on New Years day. How about you don't fly tomorrow in support of them.
12-31-2015, 06:26 PM
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12-31-2015, 10:25 PM
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It's t e m p o r a r y . What's the big deal? And it's January. Do you guys in the DC area do a lot of flying in the dead of winter? Sounds like you're bored so you post something to get everybody all riled up. Go build an airplane and wait till mid-January. Everything's going to be ok.
It's t e m p o r a r y . What's the big deal? And it's January. Do you guys in the DC area do a lot of flying in the dead of winter? Sounds like you're bored so you post something to get everybody all riled up. Go build an airplane and wait till mid-January. Everything's going to be ok.
01-01-2016, 08:37 PM
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Can y'all say if they wanted control, they could have done this whenever they wanted to?
Enough already with the sloganeering. Explain why, in reasonable and believable terms, why the FAA suddenly wants to exert control over a hobby that has been around for 80 years (longer than the FAA in fact). What do they get out of it exactly? Money? Power (they have all they want and need), girls?.
Enough already with the sloganeering. Explain why, in reasonable and believable terms, why the FAA suddenly wants to exert control over a hobby that has been around for 80 years (longer than the FAA in fact). What do they get out of it exactly? Money? Power (they have all they want and need), girls?.
02-09-2016, 09:51 AM
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http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=84787
Waiting to see how long it takes for the AMA to be slammed, blamed, or otherwise maligned for this recent development.
Waiting to see how long it takes for the AMA to be slammed, blamed, or otherwise maligned for this recent development.
02-12-2016, 03:41 PM
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EAA FIGHT ON ATC PRIVATIZATION
MOVES TO FULL HOUSE
Your help needed soon on this bad deal for grassroots aviation
The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on Thursday night narrowly approved HR 4441, the Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act of 2016, sending it to the full House. As EAA has maintained since the notion of ATC privatization first emerged last summer, your organization is committed to fighting this legislation that would be ominous for grassroots aviation and a power grab by the nation's airlines.
EAA members will soon be asked to raise their voices to their elected representatives when Congress returns on Feb. 22 from a weeklong recess. Although the possibility of ATC privatization legislation had been anticipated for several months, it is only possible to directly react when specific legislation is introduced. That occurred last week. The contents of the bill were withheld by its sponsor, House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee chairman Bill Shuster (R-Pennsylvania), until just before the hearing and committee markup sessions that occurred this week. That left little opportunity for anyone to review or comment on the bill's contents. In the coming days, you'll find out exactly how YOU can make a difference in this debate.
"As one congressman said this week, this would be the biggest divestment of taxpayer property to private interests in world history, so why have the bill's authors been so secretive about its contents prior to introduction and now so determined to hurriedly ramrod it through Congress?" asked EAA CEO/chairman Jack Pelton. "ATC privatization will put the big squeeze on general aviation in a way that threatens the individual freedom of flight and hands control of America’s airspace to commercial and airline interests."
As we wrote in our statement for the record to a House hearing earlier this week, our opposition is due to several factors:
Jack Pelton, EAA CEO/Chairman
MOVES TO FULL HOUSE
Your help needed soon on this bad deal for grassroots aviation
The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on Thursday night narrowly approved HR 4441, the Aviation Innovation, Reform and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act of 2016, sending it to the full House. As EAA has maintained since the notion of ATC privatization first emerged last summer, your organization is committed to fighting this legislation that would be ominous for grassroots aviation and a power grab by the nation's airlines.
EAA members will soon be asked to raise their voices to their elected representatives when Congress returns on Feb. 22 from a weeklong recess. Although the possibility of ATC privatization legislation had been anticipated for several months, it is only possible to directly react when specific legislation is introduced. That occurred last week. The contents of the bill were withheld by its sponsor, House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee chairman Bill Shuster (R-Pennsylvania), until just before the hearing and committee markup sessions that occurred this week. That left little opportunity for anyone to review or comment on the bill's contents. In the coming days, you'll find out exactly how YOU can make a difference in this debate.
"As one congressman said this week, this would be the biggest divestment of taxpayer property to private interests in world history, so why have the bill's authors been so secretive about its contents prior to introduction and now so determined to hurriedly ramrod it through Congress?" asked EAA CEO/chairman Jack Pelton. "ATC privatization will put the big squeeze on general aviation in a way that threatens the individual freedom of flight and hands control of America’s airspace to commercial and airline interests."
As we wrote in our statement for the record to a House hearing earlier this week, our opposition is due to several factors:
- A privatized ATC system would take services away from federal oversight and place them in the hands of a board controlled by those with the greatest financial resources;
- Threats to access and services for general aviation and rural airports without commercial service;
- An ATC board weighted toward airlines and commercial aviation, creating conflicts of interest;
- Loss of FAA control over safety oversight, while creating a large parallel bureaucracy;
- Creation of a congressionally mandated monopoly managed by private interests;
- Unlimited civil and tort liability for a new ATC corporation, which could financially cripple such a system.
Jack Pelton, EAA CEO/Chairman
02-13-2016, 05:10 AM
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Updates from the AMA
Dear AMA members,
We have good news to share. Last night, the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee in the House of Representatives passed the Aviation Innovation, Reform, and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act, which preserves and strengthens the Special Rule for Model Aircraft.
We would like to thank Rep. Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina for their efforts to ensure that this important legislation protects the hobby of flying model aircraft.
The AIRR Act is critical to preserving our voluntary, community-based approach to managing the model aviation community. By strengthening the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, this bill will enhance safety across the recreational community and allow our members, who for decades have flown safely and responsibly within AMA’s community-based safety program, to continue enjoying our hobby without new burdensome regulations.
Among the bill’s provisions, it provides a clear definition of a community-based organization (CBO) and tasks the FAA with developing a process for recognizing qualifying CBOs, both long-overdue tasks for the agency. In addition, the bill makes clear that model aircraft can be used as a teaching tool for science, technology, engineering and math (STEM), as well as aeronautics.
The AIRR act is a strong bill that we are proud to support, but Congress isn’t done with it yet. The full House of Representatives still needs to vote on the AIRR Act and the Senate still needs to work on its own version of the bill. AMA has been actively advocating for our members’ interests on Capitol Hill, and we will continue working with Congress on additional changes that could further protect our hobby.
We may need your help in reaching out to members of Congress to urge them to support the Special Rules for Model Aircraft, which provides critical protections for the model aviation community. Remain vigilant and continue to monitor emails, social media, and www.modelaircraft.org/gov for more information and updates.
Sincerely,
AMA Government Affairs
We have good news to share. Last night, the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee in the House of Representatives passed the Aviation Innovation, Reform, and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act, which preserves and strengthens the Special Rule for Model Aircraft.
We would like to thank Rep. Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina for their efforts to ensure that this important legislation protects the hobby of flying model aircraft.
The AIRR Act is critical to preserving our voluntary, community-based approach to managing the model aviation community. By strengthening the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, this bill will enhance safety across the recreational community and allow our members, who for decades have flown safely and responsibly within AMA’s community-based safety program, to continue enjoying our hobby without new burdensome regulations.
Among the bill’s provisions, it provides a clear definition of a community-based organization (CBO) and tasks the FAA with developing a process for recognizing qualifying CBOs, both long-overdue tasks for the agency. In addition, the bill makes clear that model aircraft can be used as a teaching tool for science, technology, engineering and math (STEM), as well as aeronautics.
The AIRR act is a strong bill that we are proud to support, but Congress isn’t done with it yet. The full House of Representatives still needs to vote on the AIRR Act and the Senate still needs to work on its own version of the bill. AMA has been actively advocating for our members’ interests on Capitol Hill, and we will continue working with Congress on additional changes that could further protect our hobby.
We may need your help in reaching out to members of Congress to urge them to support the Special Rules for Model Aircraft, which provides critical protections for the model aviation community. Remain vigilant and continue to monitor emails, social media, and www.modelaircraft.org/gov for more information and updates.
Sincerely,
AMA Government Affairs
02-13-2016, 09:13 AM
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Dear AMA members,
We have good news to share. Last night, the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee in the House of Representatives passed the Aviation Innovation, Reform, and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act, which preserves and strengthens the Special Rule for Model Aircraft.
We would like to thank Rep. Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina for their efforts to ensure that this important legislation protects the hobby of flying model aircraft.
The AIRR Act is critical to preserving our voluntary, community-based approach to managing the model aviation community. By strengthening the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, this bill will enhance safety across the recreational community and allow our members, who for decades have flown safely and responsibly within AMA’s community-based safety program, to continue enjoying our hobby without new burdensome regulations.
BS It's going to do just the Opposite the. Big Boys Play in the BIG LEAGUES way out of the any Leag the AMA and it CBO crap may play in.
Among the bill’s provisions, it provides a clear definition of a community-based organization (CBO) and tasks the FAA with developing a process for recognizing qualifying CBOs, both long-overdue tasks for the agency. In addition, the bill makes clear that model aircraft can be used as a teaching tool for science, technology, engineering and math (STEM), as well as aeronautics.
How Long Do U figure the BIG BOYS will put up with DRONES or anything useing THEIR NAS?
Besides the FAA didn't Listen to congress But the air lines OWN congress.
The AIRR act is a strong bill that we are proud to support, but Congress isn’t done with it yet. The full House of Representatives still needs to vote on the AIRR Act and the Senate still needs to work on its own version of the bill. AMA has been actively advocating for our members’ interests on Capitol Hill, and we will continue working with Congress on additional changes that could further protect our hobby.
We may need your help in reaching out to members of Congress to urge them to support the Special Rules for Model Aircraft, which provides critical protections for the model aviation community. Remain vigilant and continue to monitor emails, social media, and www.modelaircraft.org/gov for more information and updates.
Sincerely,
AMA Government Affairs
We have good news to share. Last night, the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee in the House of Representatives passed the Aviation Innovation, Reform, and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act, which preserves and strengthens the Special Rule for Model Aircraft.
We would like to thank Rep. Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina for their efforts to ensure that this important legislation protects the hobby of flying model aircraft.
The AIRR Act is critical to preserving our voluntary, community-based approach to managing the model aviation community. By strengthening the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, this bill will enhance safety across the recreational community and allow our members, who for decades have flown safely and responsibly within AMA’s community-based safety program, to continue enjoying our hobby without new burdensome regulations.
BS It's going to do just the Opposite the. Big Boys Play in the BIG LEAGUES way out of the any Leag the AMA and it CBO crap may play in.
Among the bill’s provisions, it provides a clear definition of a community-based organization (CBO) and tasks the FAA with developing a process for recognizing qualifying CBOs, both long-overdue tasks for the agency. In addition, the bill makes clear that model aircraft can be used as a teaching tool for science, technology, engineering and math (STEM), as well as aeronautics.
How Long Do U figure the BIG BOYS will put up with DRONES or anything useing THEIR NAS?
Besides the FAA didn't Listen to congress But the air lines OWN congress.
The AIRR act is a strong bill that we are proud to support, but Congress isn’t done with it yet. The full House of Representatives still needs to vote on the AIRR Act and the Senate still needs to work on its own version of the bill. AMA has been actively advocating for our members’ interests on Capitol Hill, and we will continue working with Congress on additional changes that could further protect our hobby.
We may need your help in reaching out to members of Congress to urge them to support the Special Rules for Model Aircraft, which provides critical protections for the model aviation community. Remain vigilant and continue to monitor emails, social media, and www.modelaircraft.org/gov for more information and updates.
Sincerely,
AMA Government Affairs
Nothing but the big guys will get to Use it with out Massive USER FEES.
Besides it's the AMA that caused all this crap by getting congress to pass amendment #336. If they would have left "WELL ENOUGH ALONE" Non of this would be happening and the FAA would have concentrated on the DRONES that were/are Interfering with maned aircraft AIR LINERS near big airports....Not Little Planes. It is a bunch of Idiots here that brought up the 500 foot crap. There hasn't been but an Infinitesimal conflict between any GA and Model airplanes. It's a NON ISSUE blown way out of proportion. More akin to a Blizzard in Miami in July. This is RED because some IDIOTS can't understand any thing when It's (Well We'll Just leave it there)
I Know that I'm going to get a lot of Flack over this but then consider the source. Their the ones that Just WHINE and do nothing to benifit our Hobby.
Hey CPB sorry I can't find a copy of the Count Down Timer
02-14-2016, 09:18 AM
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02-14-2016, 02:32 PM
#125
Originally Posted by HoundDog 
Just needs a "HOLLY STAKE" called Privatization.
Man Sporty I gota get me some of what ever U R smoking man. U are walking in a stupor if U think anyone but the BIG airline companies will be make'n the rules after privation. With their rules there ain't no room for GA and certainly there ain't any room for all of us DRONE flyers and our Millions of Dangerous Man Kill'n R/C TOYS in their NAS. They will squash this hobby sport Like a BUG.
Privatization is the bane of the little guy and the colossal Boon for the BIG GUYS in aviation. Congress will/is bought and Paid for now and forever by BIG MONEY. What do U suppose the AMA had to donate to the senators campaign funds for #336 and look where that got us. FK'd
Last edited by HoundDog; 02-14-2016 at 02:34 PM.