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01-20-2016, 06:31 AM
#551
" All legal options are being considered"
OK so then they are not "as close" as they say. If we were that close than why the "all legal actions" I think being realistic and upfront about all of this with the members would be a very good idea. Seem like rumors and speculation is all we get. If playing nice works so well then why is the AMA involved in lawsuits against the FAA?
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OK so then they are not "as close" as they say. If we were that close than why the "all legal actions" I think being realistic and upfront about all of this with the members would be a very good idea. Seem like rumors and speculation is all we get. If playing nice works so well then why is the AMA involved in lawsuits against the FAA?
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01-20-2016, 06:36 AM
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Your so called information is really non information. There is nothing factual about any of his posts and when people ask for clarification there's no response.
You missed this post from from "Chad".
"We are close to finding relief. All legal options are being considered, but for a more immediate solution we believe we will have more success advocating directly to the FAA. Legal options can take months or years. "
This is little to no comfort to the ones who are grounded. Were close but it could take years?
Mike
You missed this post from from "Chad".
"We are close to finding relief. All legal options are being considered, but for a more immediate solution we believe we will have more success advocating directly to the FAA. Legal options can take months or years. "
This is little to no comfort to the ones who are grounded. Were close but it could take years?
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01-20-2016, 07:03 AM
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01-20-2016, 07:07 AM
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So as expected the response from the AMA isn't enough...not that you saw it before I posted it and prior to you saying nothing was being communicated by them. It's never enough for you, nothing they seem to say or do meets your expectations. That's cool but at the end of the day they are the only ones working with the faa...and they can't perform magic. Not one person here has presented an alternative to them nor come up with a reasonable or actionable plan to deal with the remaining issues. Yes Chad is not going to respond to every question or comment...as most new questions have already been answered earlier and some are just combative and venting in nature..blaming the AMA etc etc.
Sorry. I don't consider a post on the AMA blog as a response from the AMA.
Just as I don't expect posts by individuals on this forum to be the official position either.
You might I don't. Now the you better register email from the AMA yesterday was a official position.
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01-20-2016, 07:09 AM
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Amazon wants the airspace between 500 feet and 200 feet. The FAA will not normally admit it but congress never gave them authority to regulate airspace below the minimum altitudes. That airspace is also controversial because it is considered the property of the land owner as air rights.
Who's got deeper pockets us or them? That's my concern. Money can take care of a bunch placed in the right pockets. We all know how DC works.
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01-20-2016, 07:15 AM
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Sorry. I don't consider a post on the AMA blog as a response from the AMA.
Just as I don't expect posts by individuals on this forum to be the official position either.
You might I don't. Now the you better register email from the AMA yesterday was a official position.
Mike
Just as I don't expect posts by individuals on this forum to be the official position either.
You might I don't. Now the you better register email from the AMA yesterday was a official position.
Mike
01-20-2016, 07:17 AM
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So a response posted in a blog from an AMA employee assigned to the task force addressing the issue is not a response from the AMA? However, when the AMA guy responsible for obtaining RC flying fields states AMA/FAA policy for clubs (not posted on an official AMA website) that is Gospel?
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01-20-2016, 07:31 AM
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Regardless of how deep their pockets are the FAA does not seem very receptive. Also there is a good possibility that the idea won't work at such low altitudes with criminals and just pissed off armed citizens. Also there is a limited range with electric batteries and its not like there is an Amazon at each corner. It's all experimental right now and even deep pockets may be hesitant to empty their pockets on a venture that may not work.
01-20-2016, 07:42 AM
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Regardless of how deep their pockets are the FAA does not seem very receptive. Also there is a good possibility that the idea won't work at such low altitudes with criminals and just pissed off armed citizens. Also there is a limited range with electric batteries and its not like there is an Amazon at each corner. It's all experimental right now and even deep pockets may be hesitant to empty their pockets on a venture that may not work.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/drone-delivery-is-already-here-and-it-works-2015-11-30
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01-20-2016, 08:08 AM
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The technology is already here. Sure there are problems but none that cannot be overcome including the FAA. The airspace we as modelers use is wanted for commercial use. It;s just that simple,
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/drone-delivery-is-already-here-and-it-works-2015-11-30
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/drone-delivery-is-already-here-and-it-works-2015-11-30
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01-20-2016, 09:08 AM
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Technology is only an enabler, it does not guarantee results. This is a business offering and it remains to be seen if this business offering will be cost effective and if consumers are willing to pay a premium for this service. Clearly this appears to be premium service and will be priced accordingly.
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01-20-2016, 09:16 AM
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The technology is already here. Sure there are problems but none that cannot be overcome including the FAA. The airspace we as modelers use is wanted for commercial use. It;s just that simple,
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/drone-delivery-is-already-here-and-it-works-2015-11-30
Mike
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/drone-delivery-is-already-here-and-it-works-2015-11-30
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01-20-2016, 09:17 AM
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People are paying that for other membership privileges and discounts, not drone delivery.
01-20-2016, 09:30 AM
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1) How much will Prime Air cost the consumer?
2) Where will Prime Air be available?
3) Ask yourself, how much does conventional overnight delivery cost today?
4) What is the liability if a ~55lb Amazon drone hits a car traveling 65mph on a major US highway.
01-20-2016, 10:08 AM
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Go back and re-read the link you posted earlier. Ask yourself:
1) How much will Prime Air cost the consumer?
2) Where will Prime Air be available?
3) Ask yourself, how much does conventional overnight delivery cost today?
4) What is the liability if a ~55lb Amazon drone hits a car traveling 65mph on a major US highway.
1) How much will Prime Air cost the consumer?
2) Where will Prime Air be available?
3) Ask yourself, how much does conventional overnight delivery cost today?
4) What is the liability if a ~55lb Amazon drone hits a car traveling 65mph on a major US highway.
Bottom line does it matter? While I understand exactly what you guys are saying but Amazon ( along with others) have dedicated funds to get this done and they want our airspace to do it in. Funny thing about the cost of something. I never in a million years thought people would stand in line to pay for overpriced coffee but they do. I also thought I never have to register myself to play with model airplanes.
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01-20-2016, 10:22 AM
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Bottom line does it matter?
Yes! Knowledge is power. IMHO understanding how and why things work they way they do in life is an important life skill.
While I understand exactly what you guys are saying but Amazon ( along with others) have dedicated funds to get this done and they want our airspace to do it in.
Getting it done is only part of the challenge. Whether consumers are willing to pay for this ultra premium service is another business challenge. It's not exactly "our" airspace.
Funny thing about the cost of something. I never in a million years thought people would stand in line to pay for overpriced coffee but they do.
How about the price of bottled water?
I also thought I never have to register myself to play with model airplanes.
You thought wrong.
Mike
Yes! Knowledge is power. IMHO understanding how and why things work they way they do in life is an important life skill.
While I understand exactly what you guys are saying but Amazon ( along with others) have dedicated funds to get this done and they want our airspace to do it in.
Getting it done is only part of the challenge. Whether consumers are willing to pay for this ultra premium service is another business challenge. It's not exactly "our" airspace.
Funny thing about the cost of something. I never in a million years thought people would stand in line to pay for overpriced coffee but they do.
How about the price of bottled water?
I also thought I never have to register myself to play with model airplanes.
You thought wrong.
Mike
01-20-2016, 10:30 AM
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Go back and re-read the link you posted earlier. Ask yourself:
1) How much will Prime Air cost the consumer?
2) Where will Prime Air be available?
3) Ask yourself, how much does conventional overnight delivery cost today?
4) What is the liability if a ~55lb Amazon drone hits a car traveling 65mph on a major US highway.
1) How much will Prime Air cost the consumer?
2) Where will Prime Air be available?
3) Ask yourself, how much does conventional overnight delivery cost today?
4) What is the liability if a ~55lb Amazon drone hits a car traveling 65mph on a major US highway.
01-20-2016, 10:32 AM
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and they want our airspace to do it in.
01-20-2016, 10:41 AM
#573
I never said they're limited to ~55lbs. The ~55lb figure I referenced was in reference to what Amazon stated their drones weigh.
