init4fun

Yep , there's all kinds of people making a tidy profit off of our nice little non profit model aircraft advocacy organization .

A fair "living wage" based on the average of the "comps" , the comparable compensation for similar work in a given area , with maybe even a percentage or few above that to show that we as an organization aren't totally cheap ? Sure , I'll go for that , but honestly , what does the EC do that's so great to earn in the highest percentile per given job ? Membership is declining , Lots of folks are , , , "Disgruntled" , , , over the whole drone fiasco , and these guys get paid like kings ? And of all the clubs in the country 26 got to split only $23K but $110K was spent on drainage for one runway in Muncie ? And we wonder why there appear to be , , "flaws" in our representation ?

Hear that ???? ....... It's LCS , Screaming down from the heavens , , , , "TOLD YA SO !!!!!" .......

porcia83

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LoL...Profit? Since when is someone's earned salary "profit". This has got to be one of the biggest disingenuous "twising" of data out there, bar none. The most dishonest play here is trying to apply the "average" wage for a specific area, rather than trying to compare the alleged salary with other similar positions running companies or non profits. And of all people, Franklin would have the ability to do this, but then the comparisons wouldn't look quite as bad.

The figure bantered about hasn't been confirmed of course, but lets not make details important. Like whether it's a total compensation package (salary, and value of all benefits), or just salary. At the end of the day, the salary is commensurate with the organization being run...absolutely regardless of where the company is located. As if location is some barometer to a position's job requirements.

rcmiket

Man what our club could do with $110,000.00.

Mike

franklin_m

I'd be happy if they flip the numbers, distribute $100K to where majority of members fly, local clubs, and keep the Taj-Muncie to the $22K amount.

rcmiket

I'm making that suggestion to the EC.

Mike

flyinwalenda

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The 110k is the cap on what can be spent. Best to wait until they post exactly what they are spending and for what. Even then it would seem upside-down.

RC Pilot 007

no point give to much $$ to club most private anyway so not all ama can use. nice have place like muncie all member can use

plus club can have fund raiser if need money. raise dues also. many just to lazy and want free money from ama.

init4fun

I agree 100% with Mike and Franklin here , but as far as it actually happening that the AMA were to give more to clubs than what it spends on "Taj Muncie" ? Something about the Devil havin frost on his butt comes to mind here .....

Anyone seen my gibberish translator ? I've run this through both my pig Latin AND my Martian language filters , and no decipherable meaning can be attributed to the above passage ....

rcmiket

It's called the ignore button. Works great.

Mike

franklin_m

Yep. Meanwhile, in terms of their requirement to keep members of the non-profit up to date on information:

Last AMA financial statement posted was from 2014
Last AMA Annual Report - Financial Insurance Summary was from 2014
Last AMA Medical Claim History information posted was from 2007
Last AMA Fire/Theft/Vandalism Claim History posted was from 2007
Accepted CDs for tubine signoff not updated since 2013
Last Suspended / Revoked Tubine waivers dates from 2008
sUAS Survey Results, which AMA said "will be posted in April 2014," are not posted.

I sent a note to my district III rep asking when these will be updated, if folks agree and think we deserve more current information (remember we're paying an ED so much he's in the top 1.5% of all wage earners in Muncie), let your VP know as well.

rcmiket

Anyone interested in seeing just how much is spent and on what here's a link to motions at the EC meeting dating back to 1999.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutam...n/ec/news.aspx

Mike

franklin_m

What concerns me about discovering all the out of date documents is that it certainly paints a picture that leads one to believe the EC doesn't feel particularly accountable to the members that pay the bills.

init4fun

Hey Mike ,

Yea , I know I ought to just ignore it , but I figured maybe if we could figure out which dialect of caveman it's speaking , maybe we could attempt to communicate with it ? Maybe it's a renegade bot who likes model aircraft and speaks broken English ?

It sure does seem , whenever it's point IS understandable , that it speaks a brand of cheerleading I've heard here before . In fact I thought I smelled something that smelled an awful lot like a pork based breakfast meat strip cooking the other day , but I could have been mistaken .....

rcmiket

I use it and it's saving me so much aggravation along with tiem.

Mike

init4fun

For a group of folks paid as well as they are , Your right Franklin , I also expect better as well with regards to the performance of their job duties !

RC Pilot 007

maybe all busy work on fight with faa i think faa issue #1 priority for all ama

porcia83

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Salary shaming....a new low even for the most ardent anti-AMA folk, especially from those that aren't even members!

Chris P. Bacon

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If you don't like the EC vote 'em out. Look at the major upset in the big campaign. No one thought one of those candidates would ever get this far and look where he is now.

Chris P. Bacon

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Sounds like a great way to create animosity between the have and have not clubs. But then, where's the benefit for all those AMA members that don't fly at a club field? Next thing you know they'll be complaining about their dues going to fund a flying site they cannot use.

Dick T.

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I think some of you fellas are being a bit smug with comments about member RC Pilot 007's posts. Stop to consider he may have limited education or may be an immigrant with basic English language skills. If he has limited education or diminished social skills he is at least trying to be part of our hobby and society in general. If his origin is a foreign land then working at communicating in English is to be commended.

Yes the "Ignore" button works well and it's use may avoid enticing some into making smarmy comments.

Sport_Pilot

I agree, stop acting like a bunch of xenophobes!

porcia83

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Par for the course, and acceptable behavior for some I guess. You are completely right though.

porcia83

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How come nobody is talking about the AMA announcement that the 400 clubs not signing up shrunk to 200. I guess that's not a story????

Smaragos

I agree. Particularly since it's obvious from his sentence structure that he speaks at least two languages, whereas I suspect that those making the snide comments can barely manage one. I worked with people from all over the world, and quickly learned not to judge their intelligence by their facility with English, because many of them turned out to be smarter than I was.

init4fun

Ug me no fobic of Xenon axecpt wen in other car hedlites then cant sea at nitee

And me knowum SOCKPUPPET when me sea um ......