RC Clubs not renewing AMA Charter
05-10-2016, 03:38 AM
#202
This is just too funny. I used the "Contact AMA" feature to tell them about the messed up links in their own press release on their own website. So I go back this morning to check. They fixed only one of them. The top one works, and correctly sends the browser to sUAS.modelaircraft.org
But the bottom one, despite saying sUAS.modelaircraft.org, it actually still sends the browser to an incorrect URL: www.sUAS.modelaircraft.org - which of course does not exist. (RC Pilot 007 you reading this?)
When I was a junior officer, I worked for a CO that would describe such organizations as "Unable to find their a** with both hands and a flashlight."
But the bottom one, despite saying sUAS.modelaircraft.org, it actually still sends the browser to an incorrect URL: www.sUAS.modelaircraft.org - which of course does not exist. (RC Pilot 007 you reading this?)
When I was a junior officer, I worked for a CO that would describe such organizations as "Unable to find their a** with both hands and a flashlight."
05-10-2016, 07:05 AM
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05-10-2016, 07:53 AM
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We can only conclude that such indivuals are perfectly ok with AMA spending money on ineffective websites.
05-10-2016, 11:25 AM
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In some union organizations that end up bankrupt with failed pension funds, etc. it's the Rank and File members who fail to question the direction / competence of their leadership who are to blame.
You can see the same undying, non-critical, obedient, sheepish, unquestioning loyalty playing out here.
05-10-2016, 01:01 PM
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BINGO...!
In some union organizations that end up bankrupt with failed pension funds, etc. it's the Rank and File members who fail to question the direction / competence of their leadership who are to blame.
You can see the same undying, non-critical, obedient, sheepish, unquestioning loyalty playing out here.
In some union organizations that end up bankrupt with failed pension funds, etc. it's the Rank and File members who fail to question the direction / competence of their leadership who are to blame.
You can see the same undying, non-critical, obedient, sheepish, unquestioning loyalty playing out here.
Would you agree that getting more involved with the AMA might effect more change rather than just complaining about them? I know it's not a viable option for everyone, but absent another entity out there to be involved with, what is your proposed solution?
The AMA can only fight so many battles, a lot of issues are happening at a local level and need the involvement of local clubs and members.
05-10-2016, 01:14 PM
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The crappy website is there to sell something, and whatever it is it has certainly cost a lot more than the website did. I didn't dig too far into what the product is, as the website had enough dead-end URLs to cause me to lose interest in finding out. I get the feeling that website quality may well portend the value of the product it is supposed to push. IOW, Truth in Advertising. I'm good with that.
05-10-2016, 02:58 PM
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05-10-2016, 03:17 PM
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The crappy website is there to sell something, and whatever it is it has certainly cost a lot more than the website did. I didn't dig too far into what the product is, as the website had enough dead-end URLs to cause me to lose interest in finding out. I get the feeling that website quality may well portend the value of the product it is supposed to push. IOW, Truth in Advertising. I'm good with that.
05-10-2016, 03:22 PM
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OMG, the new "Know before you fly" site I mentioned above is even worse! Here's a screenshot from the very first link I spot checked...airspace. Mind you, this is the first time I've clicked on that link, yet it tells me I've seen more than one page already!
So I clicked on the "Know before you fly" arrow at the top...and it took me to another page where they couldn't even spell "Civil" correctly!
So I clicked on the "Know before you fly" arrow at the top...and it took me to another page where they couldn't even spell "Civil" correctly!
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05-10-2016, 03:48 PM
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I will admit, Franklin and I are very unlikely to be friends. Our personalities are obviously different.
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05-10-2016, 04:42 PM
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...dow-sqeal.html
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...ml#post8007334
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/sugg...ety-forum.html
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...ml#post6744267
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05-10-2016, 05:58 PM
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Not an attack, an opinion. Find me one post Franklin has made that has anything to do with model aviation, such as a build thread or his favorite model. I did, and in the 40 pages of posts, there is not one pertaining to anything but complaining. He is obviously captious.
I will admit, Franklin and I are very unlikely to be friends. Our personalities are obviously different.
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I will admit, Franklin and I are very unlikely to be friends. Our personalities are obviously different.
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05-10-2016, 07:31 PM
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Here's four quick examples that prove what you said is patently false...
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...dow-sqeal.html
2008
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...ml#post8007334
2008
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/sugg...ety-forum.html
2015, no responses
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...ml#post6744267
2007
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...dow-sqeal.html
2008
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...ml#post8007334
2008
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/sugg...ety-forum.html
2015, no responses
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/1-2-...ml#post6744267
2007
SDP, IMHO, you're pretty close.
But, who am I to say? I'm just one of those who try to stay current around here.
05-10-2016, 08:09 PM
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Whether something is recent is not germane to the discussion. What he actually said was "... in the 40 pages of posts, there is not one pertaining to anything but complaining [emphasis added]."
Which is a demonstrably false statement.
I fly very little FW these days, and even when I did fly them exclusively, I rarely posted here. Never really had a need. However, this is one place where there are dedicated AMA forums.
Which is a demonstrably false statement.
I fly very little FW these days, and even when I did fly them exclusively, I rarely posted here. Never really had a need. However, this is one place where there are dedicated AMA forums.
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05-10-2016, 08:19 PM
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Been nice chatting Franklin. I can now, thanks to a few others, realize the error in my thinking. I didn't search beyond the 40 pages of complaint posting spanning nearly a decade to find the four posts you made that actually pertain to the enjoyment of model aviation. Then again one was about a broken motor. So maybe three. No wait, the other was complaining about no safety forum, so two.
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05-11-2016, 04:38 AM
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Been nice chatting Franklin. I can now, thanks to a few others, realize the error in my thinking. I didn't search beyond the 40 pages of complaint posting spanning nearly a decade to find the four posts you made that actually pertain to the enjoyment of model aviation. Then again one was about a broken motor. So maybe three. No wait, the other was complaining about no safety forum, so two.
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05-11-2016, 05:10 AM
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Been nice chatting Franklin. I can now, thanks to a few others, realize the error in my thinking. I didn't search beyond the 40 pages of complaint posting spanning nearly a decade to find the four posts you made that actually pertain to the enjoyment of model aviation. Then again one was about a broken motor. So maybe three. No wait, the other was complaining about no safety forum, so two.
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05-11-2016, 06:10 AM
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Been nice chatting Franklin. I can now, thanks to a few others, realize the error in my thinking. I didn't search beyond the 40 pages of complaint posting spanning nearly a decade to find the four posts you made that actually pertain to the enjoyment of model aviation. Then again one was about a broken motor. So maybe three. No wait, the other was complaining about no safety forum, so two.
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05-11-2016, 08:13 AM
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