Homeland Security on UAV "Emerging Threats"
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Anything 13,000 miles away is far over the horizon. Signaling is possible in the VLF part of the radio spectrum, but at UHF/SHF it certainly would be 'cutting edge.' Maybe it's some New Physics to go with the New Math.
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Military and intelligence agencies do it routinely, and yes, via sat links. Is that what DHS is concerned about? It's not an emerging threat but rather technology that is here and now, so I don't think so. It's also quite stretch from the drone technology available to hobbyists and commercial enterprises..........and jihadist fanatics.
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I think controlling a drone or even RC model from around the world is possible. But it would have to launch and land from the other side of the world. We would need Mr. Fusion to fly from here to the other side.
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Of course it is , a friend's child has a robot toy called "SpyKee" which is basically a remotely operable webcam that can be set up in one location and operated from a computer in any other location the operator chooses . Kinda wild what's out there in the toy realm these days !
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wkBaY86ORI
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Mike,
Totally feasible? doubtful. Much less so than attacks by 'terrorists' like the one who loaded up a station wagon with LP tanks and was going to blow it up in downtown New York City.
After the 'LP terrorist' was arrested you didn't see any outcry from anyone in the government that all those owning/using LP tanks would henceforth be required to register with the government in order to prevent attacks in the future?
Sorry, but this whole deal is just more attempts by the government to make us so fearful that we allow them to take away the rights this country was founded on and which so many men and women fought, and continue to fight, for.
Totally feasible? doubtful. Much less so than attacks by 'terrorists' like the one who loaded up a station wagon with LP tanks and was going to blow it up in downtown New York City.
After the 'LP terrorist' was arrested you didn't see any outcry from anyone in the government that all those owning/using LP tanks would henceforth be required to register with the government in order to prevent attacks in the future?
Sorry, but this whole deal is just more attempts by the government to make us so fearful that we allow them to take away the rights this country was founded on and which so many men and women fought, and continue to fight, for.
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It's too bad more poeple can't love flying machines in general, rather than getting hung up on the type of propulsion or airframe. The poeple hung up on traditional, fixed wing flying around the pattern are going to be left in the dust as the rc industry progresses.
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"The poeple hung up on tradition, fixed wing flying around the pattern are going to be left in the dust as the rc industry progresses."
That would be a very sad day but don't see that happening anytime soon. Once you can put up the kind of attendance numbers that Knoll, SEEF, Top Gun and Florida Jets just to name a few than I'll admit "traditional" R/C is dying. So far it just ain't happening. The new MA has coverage of "drone racing" all the pictures featured pilots no spectators. Heck even local Fly - Ins draw larger crowds that what I saw.
Those who wish "tradition" R/C just to dry up and go away might rethink their position. That's what built the hobby along with the organization.
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Most of us got into the hobby due to the love of aviation and everything that fly's.
"The poeple hung up on tradition, fixed wing flying around the pattern are going to be left in the dust as the rc industry progresses."
That would be a very sad day but don't see that happening anytime soon. Once you can put up the kind of attendance numbers that Knoll, SEEF, Top Gun and Florida Jets just to name a few than I'll admit "traditional" R/C is dying. So far it just ain't happening. The new MA has coverage of "drone racing" all the pictures featured pilots no spectators. Heck even local Fly - Ins draw larger crowds that what I saw.
Those who wish "tradition" R/C just to dry up and go away might rethink their position. That's what built the hobby along with the organization.
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"The poeple hung up on tradition, fixed wing flying around the pattern are going to be left in the dust as the rc industry progresses."
That would be a very sad day but don't see that happening anytime soon. Once you can put up the kind of attendance numbers that Knoll, SEEF, Top Gun and Florida Jets just to name a few than I'll admit "traditional" R/C is dying. So far it just ain't happening. The new MA has coverage of "drone racing" all the pictures featured pilots no spectators. Heck even local Fly - Ins draw larger crowds that what I saw.
Those who wish "tradition" R/C just to dry up and go away might rethink their position. That's what built the hobby along with the organization.
Mike
When I was 12 I saved my money, for what felt like forever, to buy my very first RC plane. A Great Planes PT-40 and built that thing by myself. Been in RC ever since and i'm 41 now. I just feel it is sad sometimes to see people so stuck on one particular thing. Aviation is things that fly. Not just fixed wing, kit built planes. I am going to find a NOS PT-40 kit one day just for nostagia purposes.
You bet all those shows are popular and for good reason!! They are awesome!! I was not trying to say fixed wing is dying, just that poeple stuck on only one small type of rc might start becoming the minority at their local field.
I know that if I spent all the time and money on a very expensive plane, like a turbine jet, that there is for sure going to be stabilization, telemetry, return to home, and an LRS built into that thing!!
I just flew buddy box for the first time with my 8 year old son the other day and I can tell you the Eagle Tree 2D/3D Guardian made it a breeze. He could fly the plane and did very well, but when he centered the sticks it went back to straight and level flight. It was very cool! That was with a Big Stik 40 with Saito 56. Now, once he is comfortable with the basic control of the plane I can start turning down the gain on the Guardian until he can fly without any stabilization. Easy peasy and less chance for an accident or crash. Alot more relaxing also.
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I guess I didn't word my thoughts very well on that comment and I meant to say traditional. My bad. What I was trying to say is that poeple complaining about new methods of flight (MR) and new technologies are just going to be left to their pointless complaining because that is the way everything is heading.
When I was 12 I saved my money, for what felt like forever, to buy my very first RC plane. A Great Planes PT-40 and built that thing by myself when I was 12. Been in RC ever since and i'm 41 now. I just feel it is sad sometimes to see people so stuck on one particular thing. Aviation is things that fly. Not just fixed wing, kit built planes. I am going to find a NOS PT-40 kit one day just for nestagia purposes.
You bet all those shows are popular and for good reason!! They are awesome!! I was not trying to say fixed wing is dying, just that poeple stuck on only one small type of rc might start becoming the minority at their local field.
I know that if I spent all the time and money on a very expensive plane, like a turbine jet, that there is for sure going to be stabilization, telemetry, return to home, and an LRS built into that thing!!
I just flew buddy box for the first time with my 8 year old son the other day and I can tell you the Eagle Tree 2D/3D Guardian made it a breeze. He could fly the plane and did very well, but when he centered the sticks it went back to straight and level flight. It was very cool! That was with a Big Stik 40 with Saito 56. Now, once he is comfortable with the basic control of a plane I can start turning down the gain on the Guardian until he can fly without any stabilization. Easy peasy and less chance for an accident or crash. Alot more relaxing also.
When I was 12 I saved my money, for what felt like forever, to buy my very first RC plane. A Great Planes PT-40 and built that thing by myself when I was 12. Been in RC ever since and i'm 41 now. I just feel it is sad sometimes to see people so stuck on one particular thing. Aviation is things that fly. Not just fixed wing, kit built planes. I am going to find a NOS PT-40 kit one day just for nestagia purposes.
You bet all those shows are popular and for good reason!! They are awesome!! I was not trying to say fixed wing is dying, just that poeple stuck on only one small type of rc might start becoming the minority at their local field.
I know that if I spent all the time and money on a very expensive plane, like a turbine jet, that there is for sure going to be stabilization, telemetry, return to home, and an LRS built into that thing!!
I just flew buddy box for the first time with my 8 year old son the other day and I can tell you the Eagle Tree 2D/3D Guardian made it a breeze. He could fly the plane and did very well, but when he centered the sticks it went back to straight and level flight. It was very cool! That was with a Big Stik 40 with Saito 56. Now, once he is comfortable with the basic control of a plane I can start turning down the gain on the Guardian until he can fly without any stabilization. Easy peasy and less chance for an accident or crash. Alot more relaxing also.
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I just flew buddy box for the first time with my 8 year old son the other day and I can tell you the Eagle Tree 2D/3D Guardian made it a breeze. He could fly the plane and did very well, but when he centered the sticks it went back to straight and level flight. It was very cool! That was with a Big Stik 40 with Saito 56. Now, once he is comfortable with the basic control of the plane I can start turning down the gain on the Guardian until he can fly without any stabilization. Easy peasy and less chance for an accident or crash. Alot more relaxing also.
It's interesting to look back and see the logical progression from nothing to buddy boxing, to simulators, to stabilization systems. Some systems have even incorporated hard decks that will automatically engage and recover below a certain altitude. As a result, we're seeing some incredible piloting skills emerging in short order.
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These electronic recovery systems are the future of training and advancing one's piloting skills in the hobby.
It's interesting to look back and see the logical progression from nothing to buddy boxing, to simulators, to stabilization systems. Some systems have even incorporated hard decks that will automatically engage and recover below a certain altitude. As a result, we're seeing some incredible piloting skills emerging in short order.
It's interesting to look back and see the logical progression from nothing to buddy boxing, to simulators, to stabilization systems. Some systems have even incorporated hard decks that will automatically engage and recover below a certain altitude. As a result, we're seeing some incredible piloting skills emerging in short order.
Sorry, I geek out about cool technology like this! lol.
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These electronic recovery systems are the future of training and advancing one's piloting skills in the hobby.
It's interesting to look back and see the logical progression from nothing to buddy boxing, to simulators, to stabilization systems. Some systems have even incorporated hard decks that will automatically engage and recover below a certain altitude. As a result, we're seeing some incredible piloting skills emerging in short order.
It's interesting to look back and see the logical progression from nothing to buddy boxing, to simulators, to stabilization systems. Some systems have even incorporated hard decks that will automatically engage and recover below a certain altitude. As a result, we're seeing some incredible piloting skills emerging in short order.
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Of course this new technology and new way of doing things represents a disruption in the marketplace. Those who embrace it will reap the benefits.
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The best is yet to come. There are a few new devices that will be released in the near future that will include some impressive features.
Of course this new technology and new way of doing things represents a disruption in the marketplace. Those who embrace it will reap the benefits.
Of course this new technology and new way of doing things represents a disruption in the marketplace. Those who embrace it will reap the benefits.
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