400 foot? NOPE
08-11-2016, 11:23 AM
#626
Peppermint? The ones that have affected us are more like under cooked brussel sprouts 
Init, I doubt unless you landed on the Whitehouse lawn you'd be "prosecuted", more likely some fine gentleman or lady with a car or truck with a flashy light bar would ask you to cease operations and be on your way. Spout off about your rights and or they come back 10 minutes later and you're flying again, then you might find yourself in more trouble but most modelers are blissfully unaware of TFR's and NOTAMS. Which is why the AMA emails members within a certain radius when a TFR is issued that affects their local area.
Init, I doubt unless you landed on the Whitehouse lawn you'd be "prosecuted", more likely some fine gentleman or lady with a car or truck with a flashy light bar would ask you to cease operations and be on your way. Spout off about your rights and or they come back 10 minutes later and you're flying again, then you might find yourself in more trouble but most modelers are blissfully unaware of TFR's and NOTAMS. Which is why the AMA emails members within a certain radius when a TFR is issued that affects their local area.
08-11-2016, 11:50 AM
#627
And what is the geolocation window for who gets the TFRs? Is it anything within 10 miles? 50? 200? By state? I'm just curious how they decide for us what does and does not apply
08-11-2016, 12:55 PM
#628
Peppermint? The ones that have affected us are more like under cooked brussel sprouts
Init, I doubt unless you landed on the Whitehouse lawn you'd be "prosecuted", more likely some fine gentleman or lady with a car or truck with a flashy light bar would ask you to cease operations and be on your way. Spout off about your rights and or they come back 10 minutes later and you're flying again, then you might find yourself in more trouble but most modelers are blissfully unaware of TFR's and NOTAMS. Which is why the AMA emails members within a certain radius when a TFR is issued that affects their local area.
Init, I doubt unless you landed on the Whitehouse lawn you'd be "prosecuted", more likely some fine gentleman or lady with a car or truck with a flashy light bar would ask you to cease operations and be on your way. Spout off about your rights and or they come back 10 minutes later and you're flying again, then you might find yourself in more trouble but most modelers are blissfully unaware of TFR's and NOTAMS. Which is why the AMA emails members within a certain radius when a TFR is issued that affects their local area.
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08-11-2016, 01:34 PM
#630
That is great and it's nice to hear of those kinds of successes . I guess I'm the luckiest RC flyer in the world because not only are there several clubs very close by , there are also fields like I described that we are welcome to fly at because we have never made nuisances of ourselves to get a bad name in the neighborhood . We fly , for instance , at the soccer field only when there are no soccer activities so we have the whole place to ourselves . If folks have a soccer game or practice , we have a second and even third small field we can gather at to fly the parkies . It's funny that if anyone passes by it's "wow , nice planes ... You got any drones ?" and a couple of the guys actually do fly MRs , it's just that they fly them with no FPV more in the way of "traditional" RC helis .
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08-11-2016, 04:53 PM
#631
That's interesting. With respect to use of military facilities by non-government groups, my SJA always reminded me that "What you do for one group, you have to do for any similar group." So unless they're allowing any private club to use government facilities, I wonder how that's getting past the IG?
08-11-2016, 06:14 PM
#633
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That's interesting. With respect to use of military facilities by non-government groups, my SJA always reminded me that "What you do for one group, you have to do for any similar group." So unless they're allowing any private club to use government facilities, I wonder how that's getting past the IG?
08-12-2016, 08:30 AM
#635
That's all well and good, but unfortunately the ethics rules don't recognize 'relationships' as a reason. They're still bound to the policy of doing the same for others. I can only figure the IG doesn't know about it. Certainly not the HQ level IG - those folks tend to have a rather black and white view of the world.
08-12-2016, 08:32 AM
#636
Yep. Other dues collecting clubs that have been denied use of facilities will be the first. I had folks all the time asking to use classrooms, fields, etc. to host events. Most were told no for this reason. Exceptions were BSA/GSA (legal exemption), and those directly affiliated with military groups (Navy Relief, etc.).
08-12-2016, 12:04 PM
#637
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That's all well and good, but unfortunately the ethics rules don't recognize 'relationships' as a reason. They're still bound to the policy of doing the same for others. I can only figure the IG doesn't know about it. Certainly not the HQ level IG - those folks tend to have a rather black and white view of the world.
08-12-2016, 02:15 PM
#641
08-12-2016, 02:21 PM
#642
If a club was only open to Navy and Marine Corps, military only, say retirees and dependents, then it might get past the IG. But allowing non-military affiliated people, as part of a dues collecting private group, to come on base gets problematic in a hurry (at least from the IG / ethics perspective) - especially if they come through a fence line. If no fenceline, less of an issue, but then there's still the issue of non-military affiliated folks (AD, dependent, retiree, or GS) being allowed on military bases. I don't know of many anymore that are "open."
08-12-2016, 03:12 PM
#644
Not that hard. Just remember what I read in MA and a little knowledge of the area. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's either OLF Saufley or Site 8A out by I-10 west of the main air station.
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08-12-2016, 03:18 PM
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08-12-2016, 03:26 PM
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08-29-2016, 12:35 AM
#647
As Bart Simpson says "Oh Crappity, Crap Crap Crap" Here we go again. Watch and listen to the first part all about FAA Regs Part 101 and 107 Taking affect yesterday 29 Aug 2016.
Some interesting stuff from FAA.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=276
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl.../#74570e1c6743
Need to read and watch.
Some interesting stuff from FAA.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=276
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl.../#74570e1c6743
Need to read and watch.
08-29-2016, 03:38 AM
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As Bart Simpson says "Oh Crappity, Crap Crap Crap" Here we go again. Watch and listen to the first part all about FAA Regs Part 101 and 107 Taking affect yesterday 29 Aug 2016.
Some interesting stuff from FAA.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=276
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl.../#74570e1c6743
Need to read and watch.
Some interesting stuff from FAA.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=276
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl.../#74570e1c6743
Need to read and watch.
Mike
08-29-2016, 03:59 AM
#649
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Meanwhile, back in reality, folks continue to fly just as they have done all along. The amazing power of positive thinking and going on with life without daily doom and gloom. If they don't do nothing wrong....they won't get caught. Easy peazy lemon squeezy!
