"Emergency" EC Meeting? 12 December?
12-13-2018, 02:37 AM
#1
Thread Starter
"Emergency" EC Meeting? 12 December?
Apparently, on 13 December there was an "Emergency" meeting of the EC.
Going back as far as 1999, the word "emergency" has never been used characterize an EC meeting. This was the first ever so titled. Anyone have an idea about the topic?
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Going back as far as 1999, the word "emergency" has never been used characterize an EC meeting. This was the first ever so titled. Anyone have an idea about the topic?
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https://www.modelaircraft.org/execut...nd-information
12-13-2018, 06:31 AM
#5
Thread Starter
I suppose it's technically possible, but I can't think of even one time when an "emergency" meeting was called to discuess good news. "Emergency" meetings are typically held when something less desireable is to be discussed.
12-13-2018, 08:12 AM
#7
Thread Starter
Unless of course that's the goal of not publishing agendas in advance ..which seem to be the norm of late.
Last edited by franklin_m; 12-13-2018 at 08:16 AM.
12-13-2018, 08:27 AM
#9
Thread Starter
No twisting. It's about repeated breakdowns in governance processes. Agendas should be published in advance. It's just not that difficult.
Last edited by franklin_m; 12-13-2018 at 08:30 AM.
12-13-2018, 11:57 AM
#14
#1 , a money crisis , perhaps ?
Or
#2 , Maybe something that's about to get us some "bad press" , like the idiot who thought he could fly an RC plane full of explosives into the Pentagon , or some horrible RC accident that's about to make the 6:00 news ?
Can't think of much else beyond the govt.(FAA) , money , or bad press that could count as an emergency , AMA wise ....
12-13-2018, 12:54 PM
#16
Again, not being on the EC any more it's not my news to share.
I'll say this though. The only thing emergency, from my view, was that it is time sensitive in nature, I'm not sure I would have used the term "emergency" There's no sky falling, not even below 400 feet.
I'll say this though. The only thing emergency, from my view, was that it is time sensitive in nature, I'm not sure I would have used the term "emergency" There's no sky falling, not even below 400 feet.
12-13-2018, 01:14 PM
#17
Thread Starter
Again, not being on the EC any more it's not my news to share.
I'll say this though. The only thing emergency, from my view, was that it is time sensitive in nature, I'm not sure I would have used the term "emergency" There's no sky falling, not even below 400 feet.
I'll say this though. The only thing emergency, from my view, was that it is time sensitive in nature, I'm not sure I would have used the term "emergency" There's no sky falling, not even below 400 feet.
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12-13-2018, 01:57 PM
#19
I debated whether or not to weigh in because I didn't want my reply twisted around but I figured it was better to quash the idea that the sky was falling rather than letting speculation run rampant.
Again, feel free to address it with your district VP
12-13-2018, 07:13 PM
#20
Thread Starter
I get it that you enjoy being difficult.
I debated whether or not to weigh in because I didn't want my reply twisted around but I figured it was better to quash the idea that the sky was falling rather than letting speculation run rampant.
Again, feel free to address it with your district VP
I debated whether or not to weigh in because I didn't want my reply twisted around but I figured it was better to quash the idea that the sky was falling rather than letting speculation run rampant.
Again, feel free to address it with your district VP
To understand why, one must ask "Cui Bono?" To which it's clear the EC does. Not posting agendas before meetings allows them to act before the "unwashed masses" find out. Thus concerns are met with "I'm sorry, but we already voted."
12-14-2018, 04:56 AM
#22
Seems to me that, if it's that big of an emergency, it would have to be a skype or video conference. That brings me to another, somewhat older thought. IF they are doing a video or skype conference due speed being essential, why can't the EC do all meetings that way rather than waste around $110K to have everyone go to Muncie?
12-14-2018, 05:51 AM
#23
Banned
Seems to me that, if it's that big of an emergency, it would have to be a skype or video conference. That brings me to another, somewhat older thought. IF they are doing a video or skype conference due speed being essential, why can't the EC do all meetings that way rather than waste around $110K to have everyone go to Muncie?
As for the reason for the meeting? Consider a few things.
It was held 11 days before Christmas. So I assume it must be some kind of real issue. At least real to the EC.
The Government is in holiday mode meaning not much work is getting done. And the closer to Christmas, the more of a crisis anything needs to be to be considered.
Isn't it renewal time for AMA members? Membership crisis?
What is AMA's fiscal year? If the calendar, then maybe.....???
The public will find out in due course. And as usual, it will be too late for anyone to do anything.
12-14-2018, 07:22 AM
#24
It helps to review the by-laws in the membership manual.
There are provisions for who can call an EC meeting, and for what. Generally there is a requirement for advance notification of a requested meeting to the EC members. The President can override that notification waiting period by designating the meeting as an "Emergency". The implication is that would be done for a time sensitive matter. While the EC members are required to be informed of the purpose of the meeting, there is no requirement for notifying the general membership. The most likely by-law based reasons: a matter involving discipline of an AMA member, or a critical position that needs to be filled (or at least temporarily covered) due to sudden vacancy.
As far as "The public will find out in due course. And as usual, it will be too late for anyone to do anything." - umm,....Who else would be expected to step in and "do anything", since EC members are the ones we specifically elected to "do something"?
There are provisions for who can call an EC meeting, and for what. Generally there is a requirement for advance notification of a requested meeting to the EC members. The President can override that notification waiting period by designating the meeting as an "Emergency". The implication is that would be done for a time sensitive matter. While the EC members are required to be informed of the purpose of the meeting, there is no requirement for notifying the general membership. The most likely by-law based reasons: a matter involving discipline of an AMA member, or a critical position that needs to be filled (or at least temporarily covered) due to sudden vacancy.
As far as "The public will find out in due course. And as usual, it will be too late for anyone to do anything." - umm,....Who else would be expected to step in and "do anything", since EC members are the ones we specifically elected to "do something"?
12-14-2018, 08:55 AM
#25
Banned
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As far as "The public will find out in due course. And as usual, it will be too late for anyone to do anything." - umm,....Who else would be expected to step in and "do anything", since EC members are the ones we specifically elected to "do something"?
As far as "The public will find out in due course. And as usual, it will be too late for anyone to do anything." - umm,....Who else would be expected to step in and "do anything", since EC members are the ones we specifically elected to "do something"?