Model Aviation page 4off
Model Aviation page 4off
12-29-2018, 04:54 PM
#2
And why do I suspect that? Because the same article is horribly edited. For example, the last two paragraphs at the bottom of page 42 and the first two at the top of the left column on page 43 are repeated word for word on page 43 in the second column ( about the middle of page ).
Keep this in mind as you consider how many people are being paid with our membership dollars ... to create and edit this magazine.
ADDED: I keep finding more errors the closer I look. The diagrams referenced don't match the text that references. Furthermore, some of the diagrams are just plain wrong. For example, the text referencing figure 1.3 discusses a "constant lift distribution" but, but the diagram shows NOT a constant lift distribution. Another is the text that references figure 1.4, a tapered wing. Yes, it shows that the lift distribution changes across the span, but it shows a constant weight distribution ... which is not true for a tapered wing (unless the builder deliberately uses more dense components the further out on the wing they go ... nonsensical).
Last edited by franklin_m; 12-30-2018 at 07:59 AM. Reason: Added info
12-30-2018, 09:09 AM
#4
I didn't read the article so I don't know the context. Inertia is simply how we talk about matter and movement. For example in a spin the heavier the wingtips the more force it will take to stop the spin (wingtip inertia), so the lighter the wingtips the faster you can recover from a spin for example. Lets look at the Corsair, it has fabric outer wing panels and plywood ailerons, the lighter the wingtips the more responsive the airplane will be. The heavier an object is and the faster it moves the more force is needed to slow it down or change it's direction. Bowling ball inertia, airplane inertia, wingtip inertia, you get it.
12-30-2018, 09:38 AM
#5
- the property of matter by which it retains its state of rest or its velocity along a straight line so long as it is not acted upon by an external force.
I would guess from the basic physical definition of inertia that they were referring to the constant straight line operation of the wing. Which may not have anything to do what the article is about. Ha,ha. I wish I could read it now, but the Jan. issue has still not arrived.
12-30-2018, 09:41 AM
#6
Banned
Well I did look it up. More out of curiosity than anything else (just so my motive isn't questioned by the forum motive cop). And it appears wing inertia is a term first used in reference to living creatures with wings. Birds, bugs, bats etc. Used by Biologists of various types in their study of flying creatures. I can actually see where this term could have been in use in this capacity prior to 1903. And as terms go, it has managed to migrate to the aviation world. But how widespread is it's use? And is it used in any official capacity? i.e. is it a commonly and recognized term in the full size aviation community? Design and engineering documents comes to mind here. I do not know. Nor do I care. It's a curiosity and nothing else. Which is I believe why the OP posed the question in the first place.
And for those more curious than I, a simple demonstration can be accomplished by taking a model of yours, adding several ounces of lead to each wing tip and seeing how that impacts roll and banking. For more fun, add all the weight to just one wing tip. Preferably the left one.
And for those more curious than I, a simple demonstration can be accomplished by taking a model of yours, adding several ounces of lead to each wing tip and seeing how that impacts roll and banking. For more fun, add all the weight to just one wing tip. Preferably the left one.
Last edited by Appowner; 12-30-2018 at 09:45 AM.
12-30-2018, 01:31 PM
#8
Banned
Then again, experience is an excellent teacher. And a fool will have no other.
12-31-2018, 12:48 AM
#9
It sounds to me like a term someone came up with the try to explain something they had limited to no knowledge about. Stickslammer gave the definition of inertia and, when you throw in "wing", it sounds to me like someone is trying to describe, somewhat incorrectly, how a wing can keep a plane in a spin or stop it. Unfortunately, it doesn't take an aerodynamics expert to understand that the lift and drag of a wing are just as, if not more so, important as the inertial effect of the wing structure.
12-31-2018, 07:29 AM
#10
It sounds to me like a term someone came up with the try to explain something they had limited to no knowledge about. Stickslammer gave the definition of inertia and, when you throw in "wing", it sounds to me like someone is trying to describe, somewhat incorrectly, how a wing can keep a plane in a spin or stop it. Unfortunately, it doesn't take an aerodynamics expert to understand that the lift and drag of a wing are just as, if not more so, important as the inertial effect of the wing structure.
With the multiple duplications of text, it's clear editing either didn't happen or was poorly done. Seems to me that we're paying for a lot of MA staff members to do that, but it's clearly not done in this case, wo what exactly are we getting for our money?
It might have been the product of a rush to publication. Hard to imagine given the four month or so lead time to get a magazine out (district pages are talking about stuff that happened in summer of 2018). But even if it was a "rush" at some point, does that excuse the apparent lack of any editing? And who is being paid with our membership dollars to allow such things to be rushed?
And if it was "rushed," why? Are they that hurting for content that it couldn't wait another month for proper editing? Or is it a GOB submitted article, one that isn't subject to the editorial attention that the "unwashed masses" get when they submit something?
No matter what, the magazine Editor Jay Smith is paid with our membership dollars to ensure that sloppy things like this doesn't get published.
