QUICK QUESTION-FLYING AREA
11-13-2003, 01:58 AM
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RE: QUICK QUESTION-FLYING AREA
ORIGINAL: PLANE JIM
I was wondering-if a existing flying club that is a AMA club has a outlaw field set-up next door-what can be done-thanks
I was wondering-if a existing flying club that is a AMA club has a outlaw field set-up next door-what can be done-thanks
In which group do you belong to? [>:]
11-14-2003, 11:12 AM
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RE: QUICK QUESTION-FLYING AREA
ORIGINAL: PLANE JIM
I was wondering-if a existing flying club that is a AMA club has a outlaw field set-up next door-what can be done-thanks
I was wondering-if a existing flying club that is a AMA club has a outlaw field set-up next door-what can be done-thanks
Believe it or not people are free to join the AMA or not. The terms "outlaw fields" or "outlaw fliers" and such are inappropriate.
I, for one, support ALL those involved in the hobby whether they belong to the AMA or not. Actually my convictions is the spirit the AMA was founded on but has been all but forgotten.
It is hard for some to believe but the AMA IS a SIG and the AMA should not only allow for the rights of others but should fight for their rights.
Work with the other club and work out the arrangements to allow safe flight. The new club may need to be made aware that their actions may be construed as reckless or negligent if they refuse to participate in a fair arrangement to allow safe operation at either site. The original club does have a position that may be successfully defended if need be.
11-14-2003, 01:05 PM
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RE: QUICK QUESTION-FLYING AREA
Form the 2004 safety code (I believe this was added for 2003):
5) I will not knowingly operate my model within three miles of any pre-existing flying site except in accordance with the frequency sharing agreement listed below in this paragraph.
Flying sites separated by three miles or more are considered safe from site-to site interference, even when both sites use the same frequencies. Any circumstances under three
miles separation require a frequency management arrangement which may be either an allocation of specific frequencies for each site or testing to determine that freedom from
interference exists. Allocation plans or interference test reports shall be signed by the parties involved and provided toAMA Headquarters. Documents of agreement and reports may
exist between (1) two or moreAMA Chartered Clubs, (2)AMA clubs and individualAMA members not associated withAMA Clubs, or (3) two or more individual AMAmembers,
Document Number 551*.
Looks like if you can't sort something out with the other club then you'll need to get the AMA to step in....
5) I will not knowingly operate my model within three miles of any pre-existing flying site except in accordance with the frequency sharing agreement listed below in this paragraph.
Flying sites separated by three miles or more are considered safe from site-to site interference, even when both sites use the same frequencies. Any circumstances under three
miles separation require a frequency management arrangement which may be either an allocation of specific frequencies for each site or testing to determine that freedom from
interference exists. Allocation plans or interference test reports shall be signed by the parties involved and provided toAMA Headquarters. Documents of agreement and reports may
exist between (1) two or moreAMA Chartered Clubs, (2)AMA clubs and individualAMA members not associated withAMA Clubs, or (3) two or more individual AMAmembers,
Document Number 551*.
Looks like if you can't sort something out with the other club then you'll need to get the AMA to step in....
11-14-2003, 01:24 PM
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RE: QUICK QUESTION-FLYING AREA
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Form the 2004 safety code (I believe this was added for 2003):
5) I will not knowingly operate my model within three miles of any pre-existing flying site except in accordance with the frequency sharing agreement listed below in this paragraph.
Looks like if you can't sort something out with the other club then you'll need to get the AMA to step in....
Form the 2004 safety code (I believe this was added for 2003):
5) I will not knowingly operate my model within three miles of any pre-existing flying site except in accordance with the frequency sharing agreement listed below in this paragraph.
Looks like if you can't sort something out with the other club then you'll need to get the AMA to step in....
Best advice is diplomacy inorder to coexisit... Might be a good idea to find out why the other club wants to be non-AMA???
11-14-2003, 02:15 PM
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If the other club is on private land and does not choose to belong to the AMA YOU need to work with them to get a safe arrangment. If you cannot agree then it appears that you will be in violation of the AMA rules and may have to move along.
The rules dont appear to work in your favor.
The rules dont appear to work in your favor.
11-16-2003, 01:11 AM
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Work with the other club and work out the arrangements to allow safe flight. The new club may need to be made aware that their actions may be construed as reckless or negligent if they refuse to participate in a fair arrangement to allow safe operation at either site. The original club does have a position that may be successfully defended if need be.
Work with the other club and work out the arrangements to allow safe flight. The new club may need to be made aware that their actions may be construed as reckless or negligent if they refuse to participate in a fair arrangement to allow safe operation at either site. The original club does have a position that may be successfully defended if need be.
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11-16-2003, 01:26 AM
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RE: QUICK QUESTION-FLYING AREA
Well if the "second club" has an "accident" or "mishap" due to a out of control aircraft because of interference stemming from two channels in operation at the same time...one from the "first club" and one the "second club" and it was proven that the second club would not agree to amicable terms for frequency use...well...guess what.
