Legalities of training
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Legalities of training
Can anyone tell me what the deal is with training? If I train my friend with a buddy box, and I am AMA covered, is my friend covered during the flight as well, or does he need AMA right away? My airplane, and I have him on a trainer switch for instant take-over in a pinch.
Also, I was told that the AMA issues a card that says "Trainer", or "Instructor", something like that. Is this true, and if so what are the requirements to get one?
Thanks for your help, I know that I should just read everything but was hoping that someone could just break id down simply for me.
Also, I was told that the AMA issues a card that says "Trainer", or "Instructor", something like that. Is this true, and if so what are the requirements to get one?
Thanks for your help, I know that I should just read everything but was hoping that someone could just break id down simply for me.
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RE: Legalities of training
If you are part of the Intro-pilot program then for a 30 day period your friend is covered when flying on the box using your equipment. Since you don't seem to have a clue about the program I'd bet you are not one.
In that case then your friend needs his own AMA card to be covered.
To Find out the requirments why don't you look on the AMA web site?
In that case then your friend needs his own AMA card to be covered.
To Find out the requirments why don't you look on the AMA web site?
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Can anyone tell me what the deal is with training? If I train my friend with a buddy box, and I am AMA covered, is my friend covered during the flight as well, or does he need AMA right away? My airplane, and I have him on a trainer switch for instant take-over in a pinch.
Can anyone tell me what the deal is with training? If I train my friend with a buddy box, and I am AMA covered, is my friend covered during the flight as well, or does he need AMA right away? My airplane, and I have him on a trainer switch for instant take-over in a pinch.
Also, I was told that the AMA issues a card that says "Trainer", or "Instructor", something like that. Is this true, and if so what are the requirements to get one?
Thanks for your help, I know that I should just read everything but was hoping that someone could just break id down simply for me.
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RE: Legalities of training
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About 16% of AMA chartered clubs have Into Pilot programs. The pdf document, 535-E, sets suggested guidelines for the trainer, but they are not a requirement. Form 906 outlines the program and the issuance of the license marked “Intro Pilot”. Training MUST take place a club chartered site. Paperwork MUST be kept on each trainee.
Why is this program necessary? Would it be advantageous for the AMA to allow training on a buddy box (so that insurance is not an issue) for any non-AMA member at a chartered club field? Are Intro Pilots in some way better trained that non-Intro Pilot instructors? It would appear that 84% of the chartered clubs are using non-Intro Pilot instructors to train pilots. The difference being that the trainee MUST be an AMA member. Is an AMA member somehow less of a risk to train than an AMA member? Is there some reason this should be limited to 30 days of training?
How many people are being turned away from the hobby because of this policy? How many clubs just ignore the rule and train the non-AMA member anyway?
About 16% of AMA chartered clubs have Into Pilot programs. The pdf document, 535-E, sets suggested guidelines for the trainer, but they are not a requirement. Form 906 outlines the program and the issuance of the license marked “Intro Pilot”. Training MUST take place a club chartered site. Paperwork MUST be kept on each trainee.
Why is this program necessary? Would it be advantageous for the AMA to allow training on a buddy box (so that insurance is not an issue) for any non-AMA member at a chartered club field? Are Intro Pilots in some way better trained that non-Intro Pilot instructors? It would appear that 84% of the chartered clubs are using non-Intro Pilot instructors to train pilots. The difference being that the trainee MUST be an AMA member. Is an AMA member somehow less of a risk to train than an AMA member? Is there some reason this should be limited to 30 days of training?
How many people are being turned away from the hobby because of this policy? How many clubs just ignore the rule and train the non-AMA member anyway?
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RE: Legalities of training
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About 16% of AMA chartered clubs have Into Pilot programs. The pdf document, 535-E, sets suggested guidelines for the trainer, but they are not a requirement. Form 906 outlines the program and the issuance of the license marked “Intro Pilot”. Training MUST take place a club chartered site. Paperwork MUST be kept on each trainee.
About 16% of AMA chartered clubs have Into Pilot programs. The pdf document, 535-E, sets suggested guidelines for the trainer, but they are not a requirement. Form 906 outlines the program and the issuance of the license marked “Intro Pilot”. Training MUST take place a club chartered site. Paperwork MUST be kept on each trainee.
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JR thanks for the statistic though I'm not sure why its addressed to my instead of the original poster??
JR thanks for the statistic though I'm not sure why its addressed to my instead of the original poster??
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JR Do you know if the changes made to allow for paid instructors actually got approved and if so, what if anything are they (AMA) going to do about the Intro program if anything?
JR Do you know if the changes made to allow for paid instructors actually got approved and if so, what if anything are they (AMA) going to do about the Intro program if anything?
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RE: Legalities of training
The insurance covers CASUAL paid instructors. Not commercial instruction. The .pdf doc is here: http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/500-H.pdf
The Intro Pilot program remains “as is”. If I understand correctly, at the last EC meeting Rich Hanson, D X VP, raised the issue of buddy box training. It was not considered because Dave Brown had asked to be present for any discussion on the subject. Hopefully, it will be raised again at the next meeting. From the EC January 2005 EC minutes: “An item that was handed out re AMA promotion of buddy box use will be discussed at the next meeting when the President is present.”
The Intro Pilot program remains “as is”. If I understand correctly, at the last EC meeting Rich Hanson, D X VP, raised the issue of buddy box training. It was not considered because Dave Brown had asked to be present for any discussion on the subject. Hopefully, it will be raised again at the next meeting. From the EC January 2005 EC minutes: “An item that was handed out re AMA promotion of buddy box use will be discussed at the next meeting when the President is present.”