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Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
10-19-2008, 10:38 AM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
804, if you don't vote and then later find out that the AMA has sold your private information out to market researchers, are you saying that the non voter has no say? No valid opinion? No right to complain?
Your powers of reason tell you what now?
Your answer should be an interesting one.
Your powers of reason tell you what now?
Your answer should be an interesting one.
10-19-2008, 10:39 AM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
No matter what you say in here there are 3 or 4 in here who will [b[size=3]](pop-up like those two little freaky kids in the hallway in "The Shining" and tell you differently! Count on it!).[/size][/b]
10-19-2008, 11:01 AM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
ORIGINAL: calachie
No matter what you say in here there are 3 or 4 in here who will [b[size=3]](pop-up like those two little freaky kids in the hallway in "The Shining" and tell you differently! Count on it!).[/size][/b]
No matter what you say in here there are 3 or 4 in here who will [b[size=3]](pop-up like those two little freaky kids in the hallway in "The Shining" and tell you differently! Count on it!).[/size][/b]
10-19-2008, 12:37 PM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
What I like about this forum is how thoughtful everyone is. Disagreements are discussed and positions are explained in such a kind and friendly manner.
10-19-2008, 03:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: MikeL
What I like about this forum is how thoughtful everyone is. Disagreements are discussed and positions are explained in such a kind and friendly manner.
What I like about this forum is how thoughtful everyone is. Disagreements are discussed and positions are explained in such a kind and friendly manner.
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10-19-2008, 09:43 PM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
ORIGINAL: The Toolman
What about the people that don't like either one, so they don't vote at all. Does that mean that they shouldn't have a say in what goes on, an how things are run? As long as they are a member, I believe they still ought to have the right to complain.
What about the people that don't like either one, so they don't vote at all. Does that mean that they shouldn't have a say in what goes on, an how things are run? As long as they are a member, I believe they still ought to have the right to complain.
Two different things, I think.
10-19-2008, 09:50 PM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
Near as I can tell, the right to have a voice with AMA leadership comes not from voting but rather from paying the annual dues. I've never had anyone ask me if I've voted when I've asked them a question or made a request.
Then again, reality and opinion often diverge here.
Then again, reality and opinion often diverge here.
10-19-2008, 11:35 PM
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This EVP election is the only time I've ever cast a vote where I felt qualified to cast that vote. Any other voting that I've done in the past was like shooting in the dark. The ballot might as well have been written in Chinese. I think if most members were honest, you would hear the same confessions out of them. It's hard enough to find members with enough free time away from the TV set and the computer to throw a plane together, how many would anyone guess take the time to thoroughly do their research before casting their votes?
I agree that as a payer of the dues, you've got a right to call Muncie about what irks you.
I agree that as a payer of the dues, you've got a right to call Muncie about what irks you.
10-20-2008, 06:14 AM
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ORIGINAL: combatpigg
This EVP election is the only time I've ever cast a vote where I felt qualified to cast that vote. Any other voting that I've done in the past was like shooting in the dark. The ballot might as well have been written in Chinese. I think if most members were honest, you would hear the same confessions out of them. It's hard enough to find members with enough free time away from the TV set and the computer to throw a plane together, how many would anyone guess take the time to thoroughly do their research before casting their votes?
I agree that as a payer of the dues, you've got a right to call Muncie about what irks you.
This EVP election is the only time I've ever cast a vote where I felt qualified to cast that vote. Any other voting that I've done in the past was like shooting in the dark. The ballot might as well have been written in Chinese. I think if most members were honest, you would hear the same confessions out of them. It's hard enough to find members with enough free time away from the TV set and the computer to throw a plane together, how many would anyone guess take the time to thoroughly do their research before casting their votes?
I agree that as a payer of the dues, you've got a right to call Muncie about what irks you.
The office of the Executive Vice President of the AMA, should be a firm watchdog/member advocate position. That's why I cast my vote for Horrace Cain. He may be abrasive, abrupt, and opinionated, but he doesn't have his nose inserted in the prosterior of the others in Muncie. I don't think that he would sell us out to Hobbico, or Horizon either.
Them's my $0.02 worth, and is probably worth about as much as it cost you.
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10-20-2008, 09:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: mongo
hummmmm stick,
mamber advocate?? sounds just like a maybe interesting position to have<G>
hummmmm stick,
mamber advocate?? sounds just like a maybe interesting position to have<G>
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10-20-2008, 10:39 AM
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RE: Is it okeydokey to choose not to vote in AMA election
While I am trying to abstain from the discussion so far,
I see a recurring comment about Uninformed Voting by a couple folks.
Please also consider in this hullabaloo the AMA classic:
One Name Ballot
that if written in chinese would not have noticable effect on the voting.
While a WriteIn vote could be cast, is that not as ~not counting~ as not voting if there is no writ-in campaign to support your vote... rather than simply throwing your vote away on a completly unwinnable choice.
So one could choose to not turn in a One Name Ballot if one doesnt like that name,
by throwing the vote in the trashcan,
or thowing it away on an impossible write-in.
One could choose not to vote if the ballot is another AMA classic:
One Party Ballot
with a selection of cronnies keeping an outsider off the ballot (yea nom-com!)
Or one could choose to not get a ballot rather than to not turn in a ballot.
When a member doesnt get a ballot
is it ok for them not to vote?
Are those that choose to not get a ballot
ineleigible to get the money Muncie hands out
for suggestions to do things differently to save AMA money
(change for the better implies current is not good enough... and that is complianing?)
I see a recurring comment about Uninformed Voting by a couple folks.
Please also consider in this hullabaloo the AMA classic:
One Name Ballot
that if written in chinese would not have noticable effect on the voting.
While a WriteIn vote could be cast, is that not as ~not counting~ as not voting if there is no writ-in campaign to support your vote... rather than simply throwing your vote away on a completly unwinnable choice.
So one could choose to not turn in a One Name Ballot if one doesnt like that name,
by throwing the vote in the trashcan,
or thowing it away on an impossible write-in.
One could choose not to vote if the ballot is another AMA classic:
One Party Ballot
with a selection of cronnies keeping an outsider off the ballot (yea nom-com!)
Or one could choose to not get a ballot rather than to not turn in a ballot.
When a member doesnt get a ballot
is it ok for them not to vote?
Are those that choose to not get a ballot
ineleigible to get the money Muncie hands out
for suggestions to do things differently to save AMA money
(change for the better implies current is not good enough... and that is complianing?)
