FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
04-07-2009, 03:29 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
Read it again.........
It was alright when a bunch of us went after Red/STL. I didn't see you complaining about that then.
Ron
It was alright when a bunch of us went after Red/STL. I didn't see you complaining about that then.
Ron
04-07-2009, 03:40 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
Toolman,
maybe you could explain the relationship of
AMA SC
AC91-57
ASF400
and Guidance0801
as you understand them as they pertains to fed altitude limits
... rather than just spamming threads with of topic hate for me
maybe you could explain the relationship of
AMA SC
AC91-57
ASF400
and Guidance0801
as you understand them as they pertains to fed altitude limits
... rather than just spamming threads with of topic hate for me
04-07-2009, 03:44 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
Then I beg on the part of all the affected modelers at the fields I cited that you contact the FAA IMMEDIATELY and tell them that you know they are in the wrong. It amazes me how clearly you understand the FAA rules while they are apparently totally in teh dark about what they can, and cannot, do.
04-07-2009, 06:27 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
Boy this tread sure has being going for a long time not sure why though. The
simple fact is this the FAA does not regulate models and really dont care what
they do as long as they for one do not interfere with full scale operations and
two dont over fly areas that they should not but the FAA usually only gets
involved with the over fly issue if someone makes a complaint.
Think of it this way the FAA does not regulate pedestrians but go to your local
airport and hop the fence and start to walk on the runway you may find yourself
on the way to the federal lock up.
As far as or you making money with the use of your model the FAA has no way
to know that unless you are operating as a business and when we get into what
is a busniness that a mater for a whole other discussion but it usually means that
you are registered as a busniness and solicting for customers.
simple fact is this the FAA does not regulate models and really dont care what
they do as long as they for one do not interfere with full scale operations and
two dont over fly areas that they should not but the FAA usually only gets
involved with the over fly issue if someone makes a complaint.
Think of it this way the FAA does not regulate pedestrians but go to your local
airport and hop the fence and start to walk on the runway you may find yourself
on the way to the federal lock up.
As far as or you making money with the use of your model the FAA has no way
to know that unless you are operating as a business and when we get into what
is a busniness that a mater for a whole other discussion but it usually means that
you are registered as a busniness and solicting for customers.
05-06-2009, 03:19 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
For what it's worth. Even 1/3 scale models will not show up on ATC radar and if they did get a blip they would have no idea what altitude you were at. The only way you'd be caught flying over 400 feet is by an aircraft reporting you at his altitude...that is if he knew your name. 
If there was a ground observer reporting you, ask them to prove it.
We are far to worked up over this. And yes I have been staring at ATC radars for over 31 years.
If there was a ground observer reporting you, ask them to prove it. We are far to worked up over this. And yes I have been staring at ATC radars for over 31 years.
05-09-2009, 07:25 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
I haven't read everything here but now you guys make me believe that what I've read from the FAA was wrong. The FAA clearly states that it has no intention of regulating hobby flying models....don't remember the advisory. What I do remember is that it basically directs you to follow the AMA rules and guidelines.
As to UAV's that's a different story...some is a gray area...it depends on what you're doing, where you are, something about the size of the craft.
anyway...I'll read and get back.
As to UAV's that's a different story...some is a gray area...it depends on what you're doing, where you are, something about the size of the craft.
anyway...I'll read and get back.
06-18-2009, 06:41 PM
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Man oh, Man!
I feel dirty after reading all of this thread.
By the way, thanks for the links to those who put them up. I read and interpereted them to my satisfaction.
I am a PVMAC member, fly at Prado, and Fairview Park (we used the call it "The Bluffs" or "Sheep Hills" when we were kids flying gliders at 1000 feet). CM cops were always were OK, just needed to be spoken to nicely. I like living in California, I know homosexuals and they seem like nice people.
I'm new to R/C after 40 years of C/L competition and think that it's a great little hobby. I do it because my youngest thinks C/L models are like fish trapped on the end of the lines and so here we are. My full scale hangar is at Chino, I learned to fly out of "John Wayne" which is really Orange County Airport. At one time things were way more fun and much simpler.
BTW, I think the bow wave of a full scale airplane of about any man carrying weight would move the balloon's out of the way, but I wasn't around when they had that little test. When I performed at air shows, the feds said we could break all kinds of rules, like fly upside down and stuff real low; they called it a "waiver". Kinda like the do when they race up at Reno. More fun rule breaking.
Good luck men. When it gets too bad, there are always foamies.
Chris...
I feel dirty after reading all of this thread.
By the way, thanks for the links to those who put them up. I read and interpereted them to my satisfaction.
I am a PVMAC member, fly at Prado, and Fairview Park (we used the call it "The Bluffs" or "Sheep Hills" when we were kids flying gliders at 1000 feet). CM cops were always were OK, just needed to be spoken to nicely. I like living in California, I know homosexuals and they seem like nice people.
I'm new to R/C after 40 years of C/L competition and think that it's a great little hobby. I do it because my youngest thinks C/L models are like fish trapped on the end of the lines and so here we are. My full scale hangar is at Chino, I learned to fly out of "John Wayne" which is really Orange County Airport. At one time things were way more fun and much simpler.
BTW, I think the bow wave of a full scale airplane of about any man carrying weight would move the balloon's out of the way, but I wasn't around when they had that little test. When I performed at air shows, the feds said we could break all kinds of rules, like fly upside down and stuff real low; they called it a "waiver". Kinda like the do when they race up at Reno. More fun rule breaking.
Good luck men. When it gets too bad, there are always foamies.
Chris...
06-18-2009, 10:30 PM
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RE: FAR for maximum altitude limit for models
"like fly upside down and stuff real low; they called it a "waiver" "
Waver?
You fly upside down and if the feds smile & WAVE at you, you're good to go?
Waver?
You fly upside down and if the feds smile & WAVE at you, you're good to go?
