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Old 03-23-2013, 02:11 PM
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If you want both then get a 4 stroke gasser
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: Wolflord

If you want both then get a 4 stroke gasser

Now your talking. Those Satio gas engines are sweet. My flying partner just bought the Satio FG-36 and it is a stump puller. Super powerful and runs like a swiss watch. All my 4-strokes are glow, as I love the smell of castor too much to ever give them up, or fly anything else.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:15 PM
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Well I got the go ahead from the boss I will have time to think about all of your suggestions and opinions regarding the power for this beautiful plane. Really looking forward to adding this bird to the fleet.

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Old 04-21-2013, 06:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: Wolflord

If you want both then get a 4 stroke gasser

Now your talking. Those Satio gas engines are sweet. My flying partner just bought the Satio FG-36 and it is a stump puller. Super powerful and runs like a swiss watch. All my 4-strokes are glow, as I love the smell of castor too much to ever give them up, or fly anything else.
You can always go to a 997 castor oil mix. They have many of these available for 2-stroke gas engines....
Not sure how that would turn on in a gas -4stroke engine like a saito or the NEW OS 40cc 4-stroke....

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Old 04-21-2013, 07:13 AM
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In an earlier post a fella said that he had a hard time fitting the stabs on the fuse due to being misaligned. When I first put them on they were very tight and slightly but not much off. I removed them and fliped them over and they are perfect! No gaps and the alignment is spot on. I was also surprised to see the alignment of the wing halves and the wing center. Very nice fit.

After much concideration about the prehnged surfaces I elected to use them. I tugged and pulled on them and they seem to be instaled well. Ibought Robart 1/8th in hinge points and was going to change them all out but decided not to. I am going to use a Sullivan tail wheel and hinge points to mount the rudder though. I am using Hitec 5645's all the way around and a 5485 on the throttle. AR8000 rec so I do not have to use any Y's. Also useing 2 rec batteries and going with NiMh 2450Mah AAcell batteries. NiMh 1500Mah AA cell on the ignition. DLE35RA fit very nicly in the cowl! I did have to use 1/4" spacers behind the stand offs and I also hade touse a patern for the holes through the firewall. The fuel tank had to be moved slighly to the rear becauseof the rear carb and I drilled the firewallwhere the fuel lines come out.I modified the tips on a 20-6 prop and painted it black. I will paint the tips Cub yellow so it will look good when said and done.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:13 PM
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Mine's been up 3 times now, did awesome. You guys were right, the DLE 20 is the perfect engine for this plane and i didnt have to chop up the cowl. I think I flew with about 1/3rd throttle most of the time. By the way, the DLE 20 sounds awesome, nice popping sound at 1/4 throttle sounds scale. I might post a picture later of my cowl because it blows away the dle30 setup where it has to be chopped up. Thanks so much for advice on the dle20. If you put one in, make sure you turn the carb 180 degrees so you can adjust the carb from the bottom of the plane or else it would be really hard to do without taking off the whole cowl, on the bottom you just make one tiny hole for a thin screwdriver and look through the front of the cowl. The plane came in great for landing all three flights so far and does a nice knife edge. I put 3 batteries in it, two for receiver and one for electronic ignition of course. There are three battery gauges in the main cockpit (rear) stacked on each other so all u see is the lights. All three switches are in there too. One in the back by the pilot's back and two (both rec) by the rear of the pilot. Turning the switches to the pilot's left is on, so i remember "left on" as if the battery is left on.
Did you all loc-tite your cowl screws or what? I don't want them to be hard to get off but dont want them vibrating loose either.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: chopper man

Well I got the go ahead from the boss I will have time to think about all of your suggestions and opinions regarding the power for this beautiful plane. Really looking forward to adding this bird to the fleet.

Gene

Go ahead and get a Saito or OS 1.20 four stroke, as nothing can beat it for sound and smooth smooth running. You definitely don't want a gas (two stroke) engine in this one, as it will take too much away from the scale authenticity of such a pretty scale model. If you don't want glow, then get one of the Saito gassers. The new OS 40cc gas four stroke would be way too much for this model, but I've heard through the grapevine, that they will have some smaller versions in the near future.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:16 PM
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My Waco with the DLE 20 installed. I agree the Saito 4 strokes sound awesome, but I just love flying my Waco with the DLE 20 in it. It has plenty of power and fits perfectly in the cowl and uses gas instead of the $20 gallon glo fuel. It sounds plenty good to me. I don't think it sounds like a weed eater at all. I fly it at 1/2 throttle or less and sounds good.
I still have a Saito 180 in my Skylane 182 and Saito 125 in my Funtana 100.

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:24 PM
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7 Cyl 35cc Glow Radial Engine $1199. Now that would be awesome! One of you guys that have plenty of cash need to buy this senior citizen one of those. I can email you my address if needed.

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•Cylinder head and crank cases produced from aircraft grade alloys
•Heavy duty double bearing crankshaft
•Billet aluminum pistons and hardened steel rings
•Hard chromed and lapped cylinder bores
•Hardened steel cams
•Carburetor jet valve incorporating of latest design with a split opening for smooth acceleration
•Zero percent or low nitro (5-10%) fuel with low oil content (5-7% oil/fuel ratio)
A stunning engine with solid performance and reliability – the 7 Cylinder 35cc 4-stroke glow radial engine is designed for larger models, specifically scale applications where the use of a radial engine in a round cowl will provide the ultimate scale look for the modeler’s plane. While providing great looks and sound, it also delivers the dependability and performance of Evolution.

Displacement Weight Bore/Stroke Muffler Recommended Propeller Sizes
34.9cc (2.1 cu. in.) 3.1 lbs., (1.4kg) 18mm/20mm Yes 16 x 8, 17 x 8, 18 x 6, 18 x 8
Crankshaft RPM Range Mounting Type Fuel
8 x 1mm 1300-6500 7.3 in dia.
6.0 in.length Ringed 0% nitro, 9% oil for break-in, 7% oil for normal
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:08 PM
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Just a few more minor details and she'll be ready for maiden flite after an engine break in period of course. As you can see in the pics the blue tape shows what one of the issues are.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:25 AM
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Capt Todd....

Did you check the fit of the replacement gear???
Just wondering how it fits....

O.S. demo plane for the 40cc4-stroke gas was a Greatplanes Hawk biplane...
No problem using that engine in this plane either...



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Old 05-04-2013, 04:21 AM
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Did any of you guys have problems with the ferrings on the landing gear fitting. When I installed the gear then slid the ferring in place they slid all the way off the gear. There is a 3/8" gap between the top of the gear and the fuse sides. The ferrings are to small and will not seat against the fuse like I have seen in the pictures that have been posted. I have tried to contact HOBICO support but I keep getting the run around.

Any thoughts?
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:41 AM
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Yes go back and read some of this forum, around pages in the 40s maybe late 30s. I contacted towerhobbies, they contacted the warehouse and i was shipped out the landing gear replacement parts that are available. Look on towerhobbies for the plane, then look at replacements parts.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:38 AM
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CPTTodd,

Thanks for the info. I contacted Tower Hobbies and they gave me the number to Hobico (217)398-0007. It took me a while to get through because of their buisiness hours but I finally talked to Chris and he said that a replacement gear and fearrings are on the way.

Iwent ahead and finished her up last night and got the ballance right. I had to mount the batteries in the fuse between the two cockpits. I lined it foam,wrapped 2ea 6V 2450mah NmH's and then made a removable hatch to hold them in there. That give a perfect spot to mount the rec. The 4.8 battery for the ignition is mounted in the tray above the engine with the ign box. I also mounted 3 switches with charge jacks in the front cockpit behind the pilot. The only thing mounted to the outside is the fuel dot.
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:43 PM
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I purchased tis a couple of weeks ago and didn't plan on putting it together for awhile. Wonder if I should go ahead and contact tower now. Your thoughts.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:48 PM
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Mine was purchased from Tower about a month ago and they still had not fixed the gear/ferring issue. My gues is that there was allot of them made the same way and they still have some in stock. I would take the gear out and hold them to the fuse and see how far from the fuse side the fiberglass portion of the gear is from the fuse side. If it is over 1/4" the ferrings will not work.
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I purchased tis a couple of weeks ago and didn't plan on putting it together for awhile. Wonder if I should go ahead and contact tower now. Your thoughts.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:24 PM
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My cowl came lose in flight and my prop scraped off some of the paint and I need to match the color. Does anyone know if the GP stock paint will match the color of the Cub Yellow used by the Waco?
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:50 PM
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I did some research since I purchased the wrong paint. GP instructions say the covering is MonoKote Cub Yellow so you would think when I went to my LHS the Top Flite Cub Yellow TOPR7518 would be the right match, right? Wrong, it is the other TF color LXEBJ6 or at least I'm hoping it is. I will go back tomorrow and get a can of the other color and just hope it is the match.

Oh on the subject of the engine sizes I have the DLE 30 and it is way way to much engine. The DLE 20 would be better. I fly mine off floats and I still done need all that power. My kit is one of the first and no one knew at the time just which engine would be the best so I opted for going for more rather than come up short on power.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:03 PM
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On post 1179 i was asking if anybody was using loctite for their cowl. Looks like some are not. Just use it for the better chance of not having to fix your cowl. So far mine is staying tight and i poured the loctite blue to it. Sorry to hear about that cowl.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:35 AM
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I'm having trouble getting a color match so I can touch up my cowl, I bought the Cub Yellow by Top Flite # TOPR 7518 and it was to light a yellow. I went to my LHS and looked at the other Top Flite Yellow which is #LXEBJ6 and they said the real # was TOPR 7504, anyway that color also looked real light yellow. I didn't want to waist another $7.00 just to do a test color. Again I wanted to ask if anyone has had to do a color match on their Waco and if so what paint did they use?
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:44 AM
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Well problem solved! I just called Hobico Tech line and mentioned my problem and they are sending me a new cowl no charge! Now that is great customer service. I will have a little work to reset the mounting ring but that will be far easier than doing the painting (I hate painting).
But for future reference Hobico states the correct paint match is the Cub Yellow TOPR7518 but it isn't the same.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:56 PM
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Called hobbico and told them about the gear and fairing issue. Not sure what it is they sent me. It looks like some type of belly pan??? Is it not the gear that they should be replacing in order for the fairings to meet up to the fus?

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Finally started putting it together. Quick question. When taking out the wrinkles what is the best technique to use on the ailerons since they are closed off and hot air cannot escape? I didn't have any trouble with the rest of the plane. Other question is what did you guys use to glue down the aileron servo blocks? Thanks for the help.

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Old 07-24-2013, 02:24 PM
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30 minute epoxy on the blocks. Drill tiny holes for the air to escape. Place them on the leading edge of the aileron so they won't be seen.
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