I got upset with Great Planes Waco because the hardware was all dumped into one bag and all mixed up together. I felt more like I was building a jigsaw spending literally hours in total looking for the pieces in the pile,than completing an ARF. I am beginning to find that these ARFs should be called no where near ready to fly, because it doesn't take that much longer to assemble wings and a fuselage from a kit, but it does take a long while to fit the plane out, ARF or not. Also with a kit you can fit it out as you go and reach areas that are inaccessible on an ARF. So long as it is a high quality kit and actually has all the parts.The hardware quality is getting suspect too and I often have to buy decent stuff instead of using the bits in the bag, which again is making the kit look a reasonable option again.