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Old 12-10-2013, 10:56 PM
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Lightbulb Black Horse Gilmore Red Lion 46 ARF assembly thread-REVIEW

This thread is going to be my assembly thread of the Black Horse (BH) Gilmore Red Lion 46 ARTF!!! and also a review on it!
The power on the nose of the airplane will come from my all time favourite YS 63 FZ-S!!!

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Old 12-11-2013, 02:52 AM
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Here are some pictures from the wing guys....The weight of it is outstanding...I guess only 150gr!!!



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Old 12-16-2013, 02:59 AM
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What is also inside the big box?

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From whom or where can this model be purchased ?
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I'm not really sure, because I bought it locally.
Maybe you should check www.americanpioneerhobbies.com or http://www.gravesrc.com
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Let's see how it goes guys....


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Please post a picture of the landing gear. I'm curious as to how it was done on this plane.
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Here are some eye-tempting pics..... :P
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Originally Posted by opjose
Please post a picture of the landing gear. I'm curious as to how it was done on this plane.
I will....I've read that many people try to reinforce the area....We will see...


Do you also own the Gilmore?
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I have the larger 50cc version that I am putting together now.
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Originally Posted by opjose
I have the larger 50cc version that I am putting together now.
Yes the Giant version rocks!
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Lightbulb some update on the Gilmore!

As I always do,

with thin CA+ I go over every balsa join and add some extra drops to strengthen the area.

The area of the engine will be secured with fiberglass tape and thinned 30' epoxy.


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Congrats on your Gilmore Lion. I purchased one when they were first introduced ( 2007?) Put the suggested .46 glo engine in it. Not nearly enough power especially swinging a 12" prop. Only had about 1" of prop tip beyond the outer edge of the huge cowl. Also had a lot of trouble with the thin wire landing gear. Ended up replacing the entire landing gear with single piece aluminum gear. It still didn't fly well so I benched it until the beginning of this month. Replaced the .46 with an O.S. .55AX with 15x6 prop. Same mount location. Balanced perfectly. Haven't flow it yet, but will do so in the next few days. Will provide a flight report when done.

BTW, I was stationed at the Air Force base from 1969-1971. Lived in Glifada. Was a flight engineer on the base flight C-47s............Mike
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Mike thanks for your reply!

Glifada....Nice place to live near the sea!

I actually fly my airplanes on the old national airport, in Elliniko area.
You can check my channel on youtube under here: https://www.youtube.com/user/dreamwisperer

Really, a 15x6 propeller in the 55AX? Isn't that a little biggg ?

As posted earlier, I will try a used YS 63FZ-S on mine.

Please,
can you give me some more info or suggestions on the landing gear?
Indeed they seem to be the weak point of the whole airframe....

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Just a really small up-date 'cause I'm still waiting for the tools to come.
I purchased some lightly used Hitec HS-77BB servos.

x2 of them are going to the wings and the other than may control the throttle!
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Here are the servos!
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Hi there!

After a long long stop, I recently found some time to start again the assembly of my Gilmore!

First,
what I do on all my airplanes is to "waterproof" the engine area.
I use thinned (/w alcohol) 30' epoxy glue and thin pieces of fiberglass cloth.
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Next goes the wing...

Tip: Use sandpaper to remove the tiny pieces of covering on the inside of the wing halves, so as to expose more wood area
and provide more area for the glue to spread.

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And then the rudder:

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I found some free time to make a small home craddle from spare wood.

Enjoy...


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So here we are, with the rudder and stabilizer glued with GreatPlanes 30' epoxy!

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PROBLEM!!!
As you see in the attached picture, my Gilmore has this difficiency
on the tail area.
When you're ready to glue the stabilizer in place, you have to bring it back towards the tail so as to make the joint stronger.
But then at the front, the space on the fuselage that is designed to accomodate the stab is way too large for it, thus giving you a big gap.



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HINT:

When you are ready to glue the CA hinges in place, use THIN CA+ and also a proper tiny CA applicator to reach the area arround the hinge.

I always prefer to use GreatPlanes CA+ hinges and CA applicators. Look how good the fibres look!
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