Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
The AW was supposed to have hit the states in the container on the 27th and start shipping from AW around the 1st. I am hoping that when I call them tomorrow I will find that it has already shipped.
The pacific wings are indeed held on by a 1/4-20 nylon bolt that threads from the inside of the fuse into a blind nut in the wing root. This is indeed very strong and very light, it is not a major deal at all, I simply would have expected the guide tubes with a kit that was as complete as this one. It may have been omitted due to the extra weight as this plane is a bit on the heavy side at exactly 6 lbs when compared to AW's advertised weight of 4.5-5lbs.
I outfitted the plane as follows:
Engine: OS46FX w/Great Planes 2-1/4" aluminum spinner (free with the purchase of an FX)
Prop: APC 12.25 x 3.75
Servos: 6 Futaba standard S3004 servos
Receiver: GWS 8 channel
Battery: 4cell 4.8v 1400mah Nicad
Hardware: As supplied which included 4-40 rods w/metal clevises and Pull-Pull rudder system
The plane balanced at 3-1/2" behind the leading edge or 1/2" behind recommended CG of 3" with the battery installed under the receiver in the pre-installed velcro straps. When laterally balancing the plane I had to add 17grams to the left wing to bring it into balance. With the plane balanced and no fuel the plane came in exactly as advertised at 6 lbs 0 ounces.
I am finishing the complete write up and trying to edit the MPEG of the first 3 flights down to a reasonable amount of time and size. Being new with the video camera and its software is making that take a little longer than I would like so please bear with me. I didn't want to make anyone wait for the details above though. If you are waiting to order one of these and are just waiting to hear the flight reports here are a few more details
If you are as I would describe myself, an advanced beginner - well past the trainer, into some intermediate aerobatics and looking for a platform to grow with - you will NOT be disappointed with this airplane.
If you are a hard core 3D pilot, you will NOT be happy with this airplane/engine combination as at 6 lbs and my 46FX tuned the way it is, it WILL NOT pull out of a hover[:@]. Let me follow that up by saying that you will NOT be unhappy with the performance of the plane itself.
I have pilot ratings and the rest of the write up coming soon.
When the AW edge arrives it will be outfitted exactly as this has been.
More to follow, please stay tuned!
The pacific wings are indeed held on by a 1/4-20 nylon bolt that threads from the inside of the fuse into a blind nut in the wing root. This is indeed very strong and very light, it is not a major deal at all, I simply would have expected the guide tubes with a kit that was as complete as this one. It may have been omitted due to the extra weight as this plane is a bit on the heavy side at exactly 6 lbs when compared to AW's advertised weight of 4.5-5lbs.
I outfitted the plane as follows:
Engine: OS46FX w/Great Planes 2-1/4" aluminum spinner (free with the purchase of an FX)
Prop: APC 12.25 x 3.75
Servos: 6 Futaba standard S3004 servos
Receiver: GWS 8 channel
Battery: 4cell 4.8v 1400mah Nicad
Hardware: As supplied which included 4-40 rods w/metal clevises and Pull-Pull rudder system
The plane balanced at 3-1/2" behind the leading edge or 1/2" behind recommended CG of 3" with the battery installed under the receiver in the pre-installed velcro straps. When laterally balancing the plane I had to add 17grams to the left wing to bring it into balance. With the plane balanced and no fuel the plane came in exactly as advertised at 6 lbs 0 ounces.
I am finishing the complete write up and trying to edit the MPEG of the first 3 flights down to a reasonable amount of time and size. Being new with the video camera and its software is making that take a little longer than I would like so please bear with me. I didn't want to make anyone wait for the details above though. If you are waiting to order one of these and are just waiting to hear the flight reports here are a few more details
If you are as I would describe myself, an advanced beginner - well past the trainer, into some intermediate aerobatics and looking for a platform to grow with - you will NOT be disappointed with this airplane.
If you are a hard core 3D pilot, you will NOT be happy with this airplane/engine combination as at 6 lbs and my 46FX tuned the way it is, it WILL NOT pull out of a hover[:@]. Let me follow that up by saying that you will NOT be unhappy with the performance of the plane itself.
I have pilot ratings and the rest of the write up coming soon.
When the AW edge arrives it will be outfitted exactly as this has been.
More to follow, please stay tuned!
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
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I mounted the pack under the receiver in the velcro straps. Haven't moved it yet, I decided to put it in the air at 3-1/2" to see how it handled and then added a very small amount of weight at the field to move the balance to the recommended 3". Haven't weighed the weight that I added yet to see how much it was, but it was only a small amount.
How is yours outfitted?
I mounted the pack under the receiver in the velcro straps. Haven't moved it yet, I decided to put it in the air at 3-1/2" to see how it handled and then added a very small amount of weight at the field to move the balance to the recommended 3". Haven't weighed the weight that I added yet to see how much it was, but it was only a small amount.
How is yours outfitted?
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
Joe,
The last I talked with AW they were supposed to start shipping around the 1st, I am going to call them tomorrow to see whats what. I have already ordered, simply waiting for them to come in to the US at this point. They had confirmation that they were in the container and scheduled to hit the US port on the 27th of Oct.
Will post more info tomorrow after I call AW
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The last I talked with AW they were supposed to start shipping around the 1st, I am going to call them tomorrow to see whats what. I have already ordered, simply waiting for them to come in to the US at this point. They had confirmation that they were in the container and scheduled to hit the US port on the 27th of Oct.
Will post more info tomorrow after I call AW
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
I talked to AW today, they said the kits will arrive in their wharehouse tomorrow and be inventoried and that people should be receiveing them in the next 7-10 days.
Hope so.
Hope so.
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
Vanman:
My Pacific has an OS 50 2-stroke and it will pull out of a hover. I saw one with a Saito 72 in it and it had even better pull out. I'd hesitate to put a 61 2 stroke or 91 4-stroke in it because of the extra weight, but I guess that would depend on how you want to fly it.
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My Pacific has an OS 50 2-stroke and it will pull out of a hover. I saw one with a Saito 72 in it and it had even better pull out. I'd hesitate to put a 61 2 stroke or 91 4-stroke in it because of the extra weight, but I guess that would depend on how you want to fly it.
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
I have my AW .40 540 Edge.
See my thread for info.
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Aeroworks_%2540_Edge_540T/m_1259743/tm.htm]Aeroworks .40 540T Edge[/link]
See my thread for info.
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Aeroworks_%2540_Edge_540T/m_1259743/tm.htm]Aeroworks .40 540T Edge[/link]
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
I will try to post the review tonight, not sure if I can get the whole thing on here or not. Have been waiting to try to get some more video and pilots feedback on the plane, but the darn weather here in Wisconsin is not cooperating with me.
I have bits and peices of the video edited and am still trying to get the peices put back together for posting. The 3 meg max makes it impossible for me to simple put the whole thing online. Sorry for the delays in getting this up here.
Still waiting on my AW Edge too [:'(]
Bill
I have bits and peices of the video edited and am still trying to get the peices put back together for posting. The 3 meg max makes it impossible for me to simple put the whole thing online. Sorry for the delays in getting this up here.
Still waiting on my AW Edge too [:'(]
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
Can anyone tell me how to post a word file? I wanted to post my review and could not upload a word file and I didn't like the way it ran everything together when I did a cut and paste.
Help?
Help?
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
Thanks Jim,
Here is the review so far. The Wisconsin weather is not cooperating with me so I have only gotten 3 different pilots to fly the plane so far, 2 like myself (advanced beginner) and one that is advanced aerobatics and starting into 3D. I believe that this still gets the point across though and I will continue to update the ratings as I get the rest of the pilots with stick time on the plane.
Click on the file below for the full text review
Here is the review so far. The Wisconsin weather is not cooperating with me so I have only gotten 3 different pilots to fly the plane so far, 2 like myself (advanced beginner) and one that is advanced aerobatics and starting into 3D. I believe that this still gets the point across though and I will continue to update the ratings as I get the rest of the pilots with stick time on the plane.
Click on the file below for the full text review
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
OK so I got my video edited into a couple of 3 minute clips, as I edited them they were only about 1.8meg but when I put them all back together into an mpeg format they are 58meg.....what gives? I also got no sound, as I play it from the video camera to the computer there is sound but it doesnt seem to be capturing it.
Last question, how do I post the video? It says file type not supported. If not here then where can I post it and then place a link?
Thanks
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Last question, how do I post the video? It says file type not supported. If not here then where can I post it and then place a link?
Thanks
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
Got my AW Edge today............Not so sure I am all that happy about it after having put together the Pacific Aeromodel Edge first.
The AW Edge is a nice looking plane that showed up in perfect condition. The covering and all the ammenities were in perfect condition. There was something about it that I couldnt place at first that was strikingly different though. Then as I started to unpack it and looked at it even more it finally hit me....... Aeroworks did not and after looking at their website, does not utilize the full flying surfaces on anything but the rudder. The ailerons and elevators do not have them.
The AW utilizes a single elevator servo mounted up in the fuse, Pacific utilizes independent servos mounted in the tail. The elevator halves are much smaller than Pacifics as well.
The construction of the Pacific seems more robust (but maybe its just different), which may be why it is slightly heavier, but from what others are saying this plane is coming in at 5.5 lbs without radio and battery so it is not much lighter. I will see where mine comes in at in a couple of days.
Here are a couple of pics, more tomorrow as I begin to put the AW Edge together.
The AW Edge is a nice looking plane that showed up in perfect condition. The covering and all the ammenities were in perfect condition. There was something about it that I couldnt place at first that was strikingly different though. Then as I started to unpack it and looked at it even more it finally hit me....... Aeroworks did not and after looking at their website, does not utilize the full flying surfaces on anything but the rudder. The ailerons and elevators do not have them.
The AW utilizes a single elevator servo mounted up in the fuse, Pacific utilizes independent servos mounted in the tail. The elevator halves are much smaller than Pacifics as well.
The construction of the Pacific seems more robust (but maybe its just different), which may be why it is slightly heavier, but from what others are saying this plane is coming in at 5.5 lbs without radio and battery so it is not much lighter. I will see where mine comes in at in a couple of days.
Here are a couple of pics, more tomorrow as I begin to put the AW Edge together.
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and a couple of the corresponding parts of the fuse on the Pacific...........Oh and one of the tail feathers
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
Notice in the picture showing the two elevators side by side, the pacific elevator not only runs long the trailing edge of the horizontal stabilizer, but also extends up the outer edges as well. The AW only runs along the trailing edge.
The ailerons are the same way(only run the length of the trailing edge of the wing). The only surface on the AW that extends beyond the trailing edges is the rudder, where the top of the rudder actually makes up part of the vertical stabilizers profile.
added during edit - I believe that I have mis-used the description of full flying surface. After having this question posed, I researched a bit to verify if my terminology was incorrect. Indeed it was incorrect as a full flying surface is one in which the entire surface moves, which these do not. I apologize for any confusion and for the mis-use of the description.....Bill
The ailerons are the same way(only run the length of the trailing edge of the wing). The only surface on the AW that extends beyond the trailing edges is the rudder, where the top of the rudder actually makes up part of the vertical stabilizers profile.
added during edit - I believe that I have mis-used the description of full flying surface. After having this question posed, I researched a bit to verify if my terminology was incorrect. Indeed it was incorrect as a full flying surface is one in which the entire surface moves, which these do not. I apologize for any confusion and for the mis-use of the description.....Bill
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RE: Aeroworks .40 Size Edge Vs. Pacific Aeromodel's .40 size Edge
You really mean the surfaces are "counterbalanced" right?
Counterbalancing reduces/eliminates flutter at high speeds (may not be an issue on an Edge). Some say that it also reduces the amount of servo power needed to move the surface (arguable at best). Don't be too dissapointed that the AW plane doesn't use counterbalances.
Counterbalancing reduces/eliminates flutter at high speeds (may not be an issue on an Edge). Some say that it also reduces the amount of servo power needed to move the surface (arguable at best). Don't be too dissapointed that the AW plane doesn't use counterbalances.
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Thanks for the correction
I will be putting the AW through the same build, setup and flight time that I have the Pacific so far, at which point I will be more able to point out the differences between the two. Some of which may be important to some and some will be important to none.....
I think one striking thing to note is the completely different approaches these two companies have taken to get to the same airplane....I am looking forward to getting to the finished product and flying them side by side.
I will be putting the AW through the same build, setup and flight time that I have the Pacific so far, at which point I will be more able to point out the differences between the two. Some of which may be important to some and some will be important to none.....
I think one striking thing to note is the completely different approaches these two companies have taken to get to the same airplane....I am looking forward to getting to the finished product and flying them side by side.