G.P. Giles 202 ARF
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Scott, in a previous thread I pretty much explained what this airplane is and isn't. Just being honest, but I wouldn't hesitate in recommending it to a fellow pilot as long as you understand these things. Geistware had one with a gas engine. After flying several flights he sold it to Diablo who put a 160 in it. I talked to GP early in the history of this plane when I had a wing failure. It was just a bad piece of balsa and GP replaced everything since I had an engine within the recommended range. There is a history of wing failures when guys have put over-sized gas engines on the nose. IMHO the airframe just isn't designed to support a gas engine.
The mods required are simple and add about an hour to the assembly process. With the 160 these mods are more than adequate to add strength to make it a fun reliable airplane.
If you put a 160 on the nose you will be pleased with the power, but again, I don't feel this is a 3-D airplane. If the elevator throws are set too aggressively it snaps easily. Because of it not being a great candidate for a more powerful gas engine and because you won't want aggressive elevator throws I feel this disqualifies it for being a good 3-D candidate, if this is what you are looking for.
For a low cost 1/4 scale aerobatic airplane that flies and looks great you will be hard fetched to find a better value than the Giles.
I recently completed a WM Extra 300S with 80.5" WS. This plane cost 399.00, but I got a deal on mine at 345.00. In contrast, the Giles cost I believe 220.00. The WM is a much better airplane and could easily handle a 50 cc engine. Hope this additional info helps.
The mods required are simple and add about an hour to the assembly process. With the 160 these mods are more than adequate to add strength to make it a fun reliable airplane.
If you put a 160 on the nose you will be pleased with the power, but again, I don't feel this is a 3-D airplane. If the elevator throws are set too aggressively it snaps easily. Because of it not being a great candidate for a more powerful gas engine and because you won't want aggressive elevator throws I feel this disqualifies it for being a good 3-D candidate, if this is what you are looking for.
For a low cost 1/4 scale aerobatic airplane that flies and looks great you will be hard fetched to find a better value than the Giles.
I recently completed a WM Extra 300S with 80.5" WS. This plane cost 399.00, but I got a deal on mine at 345.00. In contrast, the Giles cost I believe 220.00. The WM is a much better airplane and could easily handle a 50 cc engine. Hope this additional info helps.
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I've had the GP Giles 202 NIB in my garage for 4 yrs. now. Well, I am finally dusting it off and am wanting to put this thing together finally. This thing is built like a tank and feels like it will weigh as much as the space shuttle when it's all done. I'll be using the OS 160 on it..... After reading through this thread I'm assuming the 160 will fly it okay. I won't be doing any 3d... just some sport IMAC aerobatic stuff. I'm in Denver so I have the altiitude to factor in. Any comments welcome on if the 160 will be enough engine for the Giles. Also, is the stock tank (16 oz) big enough or should I go with a larger tank?
All comments welcome.
All comments welcome.
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I also have this plane NIB that I am going to put together. I have a 120 OS Surpass laying around, will this fly it in a scale manner? I'm NOT looking for 3D capability, just a good sport flyer.
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I've got the GP 202, have been flying it for about a year now. Saito 1.80 F/S. I see no signs of any damage near the wing saddle or wing itself. Regardless, I love this plane, probably my favorite ever, and am definitely going to do these mods on it before I fly it again. I don't want to lose it to something I could have prevented. Here's a pic of mine from about 2 weeks ago. I love the way it flies and with the 1.80 on it, it is more capable than I am at this point...
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Huminski,
Thanks for the pic and comments. Nice looking Giles... Good to hear you are pleased with the plane. I have one under construction and will be using the OS 1.60.
Joe
Thanks for the pic and comments. Nice looking Giles... Good to hear you are pleased with the plane. I have one under construction and will be using the OS 1.60.
Joe
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Here's mine, along with a few of my "Homies". I've had this from back in the days when you could get them delivered to your door for $185.00. I did all the mods described in this and the other threads. It has an O.S. 1.60.
Many thanks to Roger (rfw1953) for his help and encouragement on this project.
Many thanks to Roger (rfw1953) for his help and encouragement on this project.
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Yeah, I have had mine for about 4 years now, I too bought it when tower had them for under $200, I figured it had to be a mistake and ordered it figuring I would get an email saying there was an error. sure enough it arrived. I took my time, found the engine (used), put some decent servos in it, and just maidened it this past winter. It has performed flawlessly. I don't have any of the apparent incidence/thrust issues I've read about and so far, and even with a few less than graceful landings on dirt and paved runways, I show no signs of any structural problems (wing saddle / wing center). Only thing that has happened to it, is that a couple of the cowl screws wore holes through the cowl, I guess from the shaking of the hard mounted 1.80 four stroke. Other than that it's been flying like a huge low wing trainer. Obviously, there are two vastly different opinions of this plane out there, but I love mine.
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bob, if you like, email your picture to me at [email protected] and I'll post it up for you.
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Blueyonder, I have the 1.60FX in my H9 Edge 540, which is wider and heavier than the Giles. The H9 is 78". It flies awesome and will climb forever. The 1.60 should perform very well in the Giles. Get that thing done and post some pics.
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Yes!, Me too---Have a YS140 in mine, great combo!---My favorite plane to fly & I have many---Wish GP would bring them back---Maybe a two/piece wing?---
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I had two and sold both.
I too loved how it flew and it is a great plane for IMAC or basic sport flying.
I was one of the few that pioneered the plane mods and I would recommend that they be done immediately.
I too loved how it flew and it is a great plane for IMAC or basic sport flying.
I was one of the few that pioneered the plane mods and I would recommend that they be done immediately.
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I finally got the picture to upload in my previous post. It only worked after I sent the photo to huminski to take advantage of his generous offer to attempt to post the photo.
Also, many thanks to Geistware for his excellent posts in the Giles threads. His advice was invaluable in assembling this ARF.
Regards to all!
Also, many thanks to Geistware for his excellent posts in the Giles threads. His advice was invaluable in assembling this ARF.
Regards to all!