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Old 04-10-2005, 10:29 PM
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Getting there! The weather is improving and it won't be long! My good friend Jon Wilson is putting this together for me by the way. Great guy!
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:43 PM
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Well, I just couldn't stand it any more, reading this thread and looking at the pictures. And to top it all off, Tower was having a $40.00 off sale on any orders over $400. I bought the plane, some servo extensions, and a gas stopper and with the $40 off, it came to $367.55...not a bad deal as far as I am concerned. I plan to use a MVVS 1.60 gasser for the power along with a Bisson Custom Pitts Muffler, and will order them after my wallet recovers. For all but the rudder and elevator, I plan on using HiTec HS635HB (69 oz torque) servos and on the rudder and elevator the HiTec HS645MG's (107 oz torque). RX will be a JR R700 receiver with 1100 mah nicad battery. I still have a hog bipe kit on the bench and am about 60% finished and will probably work on it till I build my hobby money back up....then it's on to the motor, and electronics.
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:00 PM
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Alrigiht!!! Another MVVS 1.6 motor guy! Great motor. Contact Pe Reivers to order your motor when your ready. The evolution 26cc gasser from horizon hobby is the same motor just rebadged but Pe is still cheaper than buying from US distributor for either motor.

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Old 04-13-2005, 02:17 PM
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cad...I haven't heard of the Pe Reivers that you refer to...is the informatoin in this thread...I haven't gone back and reread all of it. Is there a website?

Here is an update: I did a search on the internet and found the Pe Reivers website/s on MVVS engines. However, I can find not mention of the 1.6 size. I do find the 26 and it mentions the 1.6 in the text, but I am at a loss as to where I can find and order the 1.6. Any direction would be appreciated.
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:48 PM
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Here's the website: http://mvvs-nl.com/

Pe is the owner. He's the distributor for the Netherlands and the one that gives the most support on this forum for the motor. Check out the MVVS 1.6 thread and you'll see his support in action. A+
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:52 PM
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cad...not sure if you get an update when I just edit my post...please re-read my post re the MVVS...

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Old 04-13-2005, 02:55 PM
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hooked, contact Pe via e-mail and he'll set you up with everything you need in a shopping cart that you use to check out. simple system to use. I got the motor and a Mejlick prop and shipping for less money than I could have got the motor from US alone. He takes CC's and any other method through paypal.

Here's his e-mail address: pe dot reivers at mvvs-nl dot com

of course, turn the dots to . and the at to @
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:21 PM
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Thanks cad, I will be contacting him.
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:07 PM
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Anyone tried smoke on this bird? I mean it is a Pitts you know. Mine weighs 11lbs. 11 oz ready to fly minus fuel with a OS 160FX. That is pplenty light for a plane with the wing area it has and for the power I have on the front[sm=lol.gif]

I wonder how well a smoke system would work wtih my Bisson muffler since it has no coil. Bisson does not sell "smoke mufflers", but they do sell a smoke injector they you drill and tap for a nipple basically at the hottest spot on the muffler. I could find that easily with a infared heat gun I have. Just wondering if anyone has tried it.

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:11 PM
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Smoke em if ya got em! At ease soldier... I'll be in the Army all day. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:55 PM
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I test flew mine today. All went well. Very easy to fly. It definetly is a Pitts. It flies like one in that the ailerons will turn it a little verses the nuetral flying planes I am used to like an Edge or etc. It IS the flat spin and spin king. This thing will spin and tumble like an animal on low rates. All you have to do is center than stick and it stops on a dime. Very Un-Pitts-like. If you like to fly Ultimates you probally will not like this plane as it is not like one. If you like Pitts you will love it.

The landings. I chop the throttle and land it like a trainer. Mine will float and land like my 30% Edge and I swear in low rates it could be the club trainer it is so stable. For all those who have not flown it, don't worry it is a trainer to land. Mine is anyway with a OS 160FX and a 3 blade Zinger 16x6 prop. Perfect match for each other.

Knife Edge. Well... it won't is all I know how to say or let me say it will but it wants to roll out and tuck toward the gear bad. Lots of coupling. I don't think I am goign to try to mix it all out. This plane is just not worth it to do it. You are never going to get knife edge circles with it anyway. I do them with my Edge all day long. I can fly full curcuits with my Edge with DA, but this plane is never going to do it. Only dissapointment is the knife edge ability in that is has too much coupling.

All in all a great plane. I have the stock elevator setup and it works great and is very smooth. There is no need for a two servo setup.

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Old 04-15-2005, 12:30 AM
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Excellant review Norman, I've been wanting to see a report from a pilot using a glow engine. Too bad about the knife edge though. All the other reports have indicated the same thing. Did you use the low rates the instruction manual recomended? I hope to get my first flight in this weekend.
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Old 04-15-2005, 11:08 AM
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Craig,
Yes I went per the manual for low raters and they seem to be dead on. The ailerons could be a tad qicker, but that is whay they call it low rates you know. I only fly it in low rates as high rates or 3D rates do nothing for making it spin harder or etc and you aren't going to fly harriers or etc with this plane anyway. MY OS 160FX seems to be THE engine for this plane as far as I can tell. Completely in the cowel and all. Plenty of power, but no overpowered. Best part is it is like 40-50% cheaper than a YS or etc. I love YS engines, and they test flew it with a 140 YS. It must have been an animal.

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Old 04-15-2005, 12:37 PM
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I had that impression of the knife edge coupling as well. After a few flights I found I was giving it too much rudder causing it to buck out. Try more throttle and less rudder, I think you'll find the coupling reduced quite a bit. I can now do nice KE the length of the runway with manageable aileron/elevator inputs.

I have the 1.60 in mine as well. With an 18x8 Mejlik I have out of sight vertical.

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Old 04-15-2005, 01:22 PM
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My converted G26 powered Pitts 12 will be done this weekend. I don't know if I'll be able to get a maiden flight in or not. I'll get some pics posted at least with Kregg's cockpit and the Monster Pitts decal.

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Old 04-15-2005, 01:51 PM
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Could you also include pictures of the engine mount? I am still thinking MVVS, but haven't spent the money yet.
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Old 04-15-2005, 05:23 PM
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I have a question...has anyone put a pilot bust in this plane? If so, what scale did you use?

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Old 04-16-2005, 08:52 AM
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A few shots of the G26 mounting.
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looking good Alan
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With cowl and Kregg's radial engine kit. I'm really happy with the way this combination is working out. As you can see, not much of the cowl had to be cut out.

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Who makes the muffler on youer 26

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Old 04-17-2005, 09:27 AM
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It is a Slimline pitts muffler.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default RE: Carl Goldberg -- PITTS S12 MONSTER

Well folks... here it is. Who says you can't put the servos in the rear?
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Default RE: Carl Goldberg -- PITTS S12 MONSTER

Do you have a picture of your elevator servo mounts without the servos in them. If I get motivated one of these days I would like to switch to rear mounted servos...

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Sorry, I don't. Here is a close-up of the servo mounted though.
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