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Old 11-16-2002, 05:33 AM
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Anyone seen one of these, 98"span, 14 to 16 pounds. This bird has always caught my eye. Some of their other kits look good.
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not for sure about that palne but i just got the 300s 60 size and it is perfect.very top quality arf.havent put it togeather yet .but it look awsome!!!!
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Saw it 2 weeks ago as they were at a swap meet here in NY with it.

It's beautiful. Falls in line with the quality of all their stuff.
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lenough, does it look like it would be good on floats
Old 11-17-2002, 05:49 AM
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As long as the floats are big, looks like it would be fine.
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Have built two of their kits and if this model is anything like the kits that i've built,then it's a winner....Have put it on my 'Get List",but will have to wait until next year..maybe Feb.,if everything goes right..have a G-38 sitting around doing nothing...think it would a good engine for this plane..............
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Jimmy, the specs say 91 - 180 glow or gas. A g-38 may be a little too much. with 1450+ square in and 14 pounds this things gonna be a real floater!
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Ray:

You're probably right,but would like to stay with a gas engine for this bird....I do have a G-23 (2) and one of them is in a Pac-air Gee Bee Y ARF and it weights around 15-1/2 ibs...swinging an APC 17-6 prop., and it do fly very good...needs a little help in the loops....Of course FPE is coming out with a new 1.3 gasser..just maybe?..............................also a new G-26 is about to hit the market...supposely suppose to have 24% more power..same mounting holes as the G-23..whata think?
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I bought their 300S at Toledo last year and have heard good reviews here about their kits. I decided to put it together yesterday morning after posting here and in 4 hours have it done except mounting the cowl and radio gear. I can say without reservation that this was the best ARF I have seen to date!!!!!!!!!!!!

My only question now is what for power.
I have an OS160 and a 3500, but would like to go with gas. I have two G23's then jump to a G45. decisions,decisions.
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Bananas, I was thinking of the RCS 180 gas. It will swing a 18-20 inch prop and makes 15 pounds of thrust. With a pair of 40-inch floats, 1-1 power to weight, and flaps, should be a great float plane.

Blackhawk, I didn't know Kangke made a 300s bigger than a 60 size, what are the specs?
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Blackhawk,

The biggest 300S they make is 60 Size. My son has one with a GMS .76 .

They have a 120 size CAP, a Texas Hurricane (78" ws) . A Big Lazer.

They do make a good product.
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I kind of jumped from one thought to anouther. My 300 has an OS 91FX on board. I was thinking out loud about power for the Monocoupe.
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My only delima is whether to get the Monocoup or the Rearwin Speedster that they are also coming out with....

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I had a 1/4 scale Monocoupe and can tell you that the G38 was the right power for the plane. You typically need the extra weight due to the short nose and long tail. My first attempt was a G23 and I needed more power AND weight up front. The extra pound and power of the G38 was just right. Other gas engines in the weight and power range should work just as well. Pay careful attention to balance. A small bubble level on the stab helps a lot when balancing these big cabin planes.

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Did you have the IKON Monocoupe. I have one of those with only the wing built. Kind of lost interest in it. Have seen several of those with G38's. They are kind of heavy and have quite a bit less wing area than the ARF
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Here is another. Built from plans 96" ws, G38 power.
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Texan:

I had the same idea for using a G-38..short nose and long tail moment...probably would need weight up front..with a weight projected at 14-16 Ibs for the ARF and I do have a new G-38 here,believe that will be a good combo for this ARF..Like I said ,if I get it, will probably be in Feb., 03..unless the man who says HO-HO-HO,puts one under the tree and that is sorta doubtful,.soooooooooooooooooo.....................
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Texan, beautiful plane! what kit is that?
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I built it from scratch ... plans in Model Airplane News. By the way, I would NOT recommend building from those plans. There was a serious design flaw in the fuselage structure.

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I built it from scratch ... plans in Model Airplane News. By the way, I would NOT recommend building from those plans. There was a serious design flaw in the fuselage structure.

TX
Hey Tex: I plan to build from the same set of MAN plans. Can you pass along those "Design Flaws" that you found ?

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Hi Jim,
If the landing gear plate pulls out the firewall will tuck under. I hit a cow track on take off that caused enough load to break the gear plate. The damage looked very minor until closer inspection revealed that the whole front of the plane had folded under due to the absence of the plate. Once the front end lost registration with the rest of the plane, it became very hard to salvage.

The bottom line: watch out for low flying cows!

TX
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I spoke to a gentleman at Kangke this morning. He said they expect their first shipment of these in Jan. or Feb. He said he has been taking orders at about one a day and figures they have to date sold about half of their expected order.

Said the one they got for display looked very good, and all that have viewed it have been impressed.

The tailfeathers and back of fuselage are stick framed to compensate for the short nose moment.

This is sounding better all the time.
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FYI,

Mine was built up "stick framed" and still needed serious weight in the nose. Monocoupes have a really short nose!!!

TX
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Originally posted by Blackhawk
I spoke to a gentleman at Kangke this morning. He said they expect their first shipment of these in Jan. or Feb. He said he has been taking orders at about one a day and figures they have to date sold about half of their expected order.
The tailfeathers and back of fuselage are stick framed to compensate for the short nose moment.
I also called them today, There tech support said the proto-type is flying with a RCS-140 with no ballast, and the only heavy duty servo the plane needs is for the rudder. The weight of the proto is 14 pounds 5 onces ready to fly. He said it should make a good float plane with the addition of a dorsal fin, and that the 140 makes more power than the plane can use. I HAD to order one, should be here sometime in January
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Originally posted by texan
Hi Jim,
If the landing gear plate pulls out the firewall will tuck under. The damage looked very minor until closer inspection revealed that the whole front of the plane had folded under due to the absence of the plate.
TX
Thanks Tex; sounds like it could be beefed up with more Ply up front. Are you happy with it's flight characteristics ? Would it fly with a 1.20 two stroke ?

And what is this Kangke they are talking about ?
Is it an ARF, and do they have a web site ?


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