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Great summer of flying...The weather here has been quite nice as well and we have been out to enjoy it a few times. Here's a shot of my Camel with his stable-mate which I got in January, The Great Planes P6E (original with Saito 150, not the new 'castrated' electric version). The Hawk lands similar to the Camel, but is WAY easier to fly all around. I'm glad I learned about bi-planes with the Camel. I think it's kind of like learning to ride a dirt bike before your kiddie bike...ha.

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hairy46

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Welcome,

Mustang Fever

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Always suspected that the wing panels on the H9 Camel were twisted, and not anywhere near equal incidence left to right. Got real bored this winter, put the Camel together, and hauled out my helicopter digital pitch gauge, which makes a great incidence measuring device. Results: right hand panels both hand more incidence than the left ones. That's why this bird has always fought right turns, and needed almost half an inch of right aileron trim to fly in a straight line.
You know those little fiberglass adapters that come with APC electric props? I used a bunch of them to shim the panels, putting them between the panel and the ends of the cabane and inter wing struts. Everything is pretty close to identical, now, with a little bit more incidence on the left panels, which is what this thing needs with all the torque from that G60 motor and the 17" prop.
The pictures show it better than I can describe it
Anyway, she'll get tested this spring. I've become so fed up with the squirrelyness of this aircraft that if this doesn't correct it, it'll be going up for sale, and I'll build a BUSA Spad XIII. I have a BUSA DR-1, and it flies 10 times better than the Camel.

Azzir325

That's interesting, Fever. I always figured my wing panels were not straight simply because of their nature, and the fact that most landings ended in noseovers, however, squirrelyness was never an issue. Mine flew true and authentic to the genre, ie: loves rudder in the turns. I used the lead block included with the kit, and a Higley heavy hub on the maiden. When I took the heavy hub off, it DID make a difference. I almost maidened her without the lead because it hung nearly level on my balance beams. When I put the one pound lead block on the nose, the plane moved less the one half inch (!!!!!). If I had flown it without the lead, it would have been a disaster! In my experience, squirrelyness translates to tail heavyness, and with this plane in particular it is true. I put the heavy hub back on and never took it off. If your plane doesn't hang dead level or slightly nose down on the balancer, it is tail heavy and will always be a squirrel. As for the noseovers, H9 chose a scale landing gear (read that "narrow"), whereas BUSA (I LOVE BUSA, BTW) models generally sport a wider stance gear which helps their ground handling. I moved the block of lead to a position under my motor, and that helped, but it is still tough to land.

BTW, I have a snoopy pilot too.

WI53072

Picked one of these up from a fellow area flyer. Begining to fit it with a eflite power 52. Should fly well on 5 or 6 s.

aerowoof

I was going to do the same but was undecided between the recommended eflite 46 or going with an eflite 60.would like to see how the 52 works out for you, keep posting please

WI53072

Right now I am working on moving the elevator and rudder servos as far forward as I can. The power 52 flew my H9 RV8 really well on 5s.

tclaridge

On 5S the Camel will fly well. I fly a 4S with a Power 46 and it is scale. Can do a loop from level.

plopes

Hi Guys, I have just completed my camel build after a few years of it sitting in the box...
It has a thunder Tiger .91FS four stroke with home made on-board glow.
Sprayed the shiny covering with Tamiya PS-55 with gave it the perfect look.
replaced the machine guns with Williams bros guns.
Added extra rigging and fake fuel pressure slipstream pump.

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hairy46

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Looks great! Have you flown it yet?

plopes

Thank you,
Nope, I have not flown it yet.
I am pretty apprehensive about getting this bird up to be honest, It just looks like a handful.

Azzir325

If you have the balance right, this plane flies like a ***** cat. Sometimes it is better to let an experienced friend make the first flight. He's not as invested as you are, thus his hands probably won't shake as badly! LOL!

yellerchamp

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I had one of these with a saito 91 in it, it flew okay but needs only small amount of elevator, just add power and it climbs also no glide ratio other than that pretty standard

Azzir325

p u ss y cat!

Jim Oliver

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Trying to contact aerowoof; can someone help me out?

Thanks,
Jim Oliver

tyor

I have this plane with a saito FG19cc r3 gas. The engine is a perfect match for this plane. but I had to add 360gram (12.7oz) lead and still it is a little tail heavy. but flies great.

tyor

video of my camel with saito FG19cc
https://youtu.be/RY_pToj5IuE

tclaridge

tyor, thx for sharing the video. You make landing a Camel easy! It is too bad that Horizon is no longer carrying WWI aircraft like this. I think they are great, and I still fly mine (built in 2007). I recently updated the sound system, so here is a quick sample just to show you can get a little noise from an electric.

https://youtu.be/4e8a-a3DEuw

spitfire1999

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Hey Guys, well I just picked up a derelict Camel at an estate sale, but it's missing the top fuselage cockpit/hatch. It could also use a new cowl. Anyone have some parts they would like to sell?

WW1 Flying Ace

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I am assembling one of these, and have just about given up trying to get the wrinkles out of the covering. I think I'll strip it and re-do it in Koverall and dope. Is there enough reader interest out there in this old ARF for me to post pictures, etc?

spitfire1999

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Sure! Always love to see what people do, especially if your going to strip and recover! Now you will be able to get the proper colors with CDL on the bottom instead of gray and PC-10 on the top sides.