Shubova

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Zippi,
Just go to PayPal.com and fallow the instructions. You set up an account, with a loggin ID and pass word. I have used mine mostly on Ebay and I set it up through their website. I just can't imagin any online business not accepting a credit card. They gotta by truning away a lot of money.
Any way if you like the Seagull Extra 260, look at the Hnager 9 Extra 260 27%, here is the link. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN2750
Good Luck,
Aerosman
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Zippi

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aerosman,

Thanks for the info. I've been to the bigger planes and now stepping down a bit. Starting last summer I stepped down from a Wild Hare Extra 300LX with a G62 that was put on IE by Ralph Cunningham. I went to the 120 size planes for easy of transportation and cost. Ive seen the H9 Extra 260 and flown one with a DA 50, very nice plane but that would be going back up to a 50cc gasser again. I just came from that.

Believe it or not, Paypal is all that Peakmodel will accept. Putting a credit card # on line is one thing because it's protected if it's stolen or over charged but not sure about putting my account # on line. My son may be using Paypal, I'll have to ask. I think I have it narrowed down to the Cermark or Wild Hare Extra 260.

Checklst

Zippi......... thats a nice looking plane.....paypal has a lot of protection in place but the bottom line is it's not as good as your credit card company in disputes. I add one more layer of protection to my PP account, I use a separate credit card with a low dollar limit on the card for PP only....that way my normal CC numbers are not stored on the PP computer. It also helps keep my RC budget separate from normal house holds purchases and my wife prying eyes....hehehe if you know what I mean.........

Paypay does protect you against purchases you did not make.....like if someone gains access to you PP account information......I have never had a problem with PP or a CC purchase on line (knock on wood) I also have been purchasing on line since 1994 and never been ripped of or had a problem.

You are doing the things that will keep you out of trouble like asking question on sites like this one ect................this site and others are great for putting up red flags against companies that are out to rip you off.

Shubova

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Trixer,
I was looking at the pictures (above) of your Extra 260 and notice that you didn't have a pilot. Did you remove it or did it come that way. Mine has a pilot. Also, I’m just curious what other modification did you make if any to the plane?

Did you use the motor mounts that came with the plane? I notice that mine engine didn't line up on center so when I went to move mounts to the center, I decided to replace them with a sturdier set.
Aerosman
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jmohar

What servo's are we using in these so far? I have one coming for christmas and I am kinda curious as to the setups. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Shubova

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Hi,
I’m using a Hitec HS-645MG (metal gear) with a 2 ½ in metal servo arm for the rudder and Hitec-475HB for the elevator and ailerons. For the throttle I’m using a standard Airtronics servo. I’m also using a 6volt battery for maximum torque.
I suggest using metal gear and metal servo arm for the rudder for strength. I almost lost my last plane because the gears striped out so I switched to metal gear.
I hope this helps.
Aerosman
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jmohar

Thank you very much. Good to know that I was on the right track for setup. This is my first airplane of this size and I was a little concerned about the servo selections that I was thinking of using.

Anything that I should be aware of when setting this thing up? Where do you have your CG set?

Thank you.

mflander

I removed the pilot for weight. I used the stock motor mounts, but if I remember correctly I had to remeasure to center it. (put the cowl on with the engine mounted on the mounts to find there location for center). Other then that it was bone stock. I ran 9202 servo's all around with a hitec hs5645 on the rudder.

IGNORE the cg in the book, and start with it just behind the main spar. From there you can bring it back, but start there. The CG they call for is tailheavy.

Good luck guys!

Shubova

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Hi,
I’m just finishing the Extra 260 and realize that the canopy doesn't fit. The front bottom brace hits the fuel tank. Did anyone have this problem or did I do something wrong. I fallowed the manual and the tank seems to be in the correct location. My next step will be to cut out the front bottom brace so it will clear the tank and figure out a way to reinforce it.
???
Aerosman
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T Koffler

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Hi guys,
I just bought one of these at my local hobby shop for $130.00!! I have been out of the hobby for about 6 years and I must say ARF's have come a long way! I'm thinking about putting a OS 1.20ax instead of the Saito 1.25 to save a few bucks. What do you guys think of the OS on this bird?

Shubova

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That's a good deal they usally go for $200.00 are you sure its a Seagull Extra 260.
Check the engine weights and hp. If you go on line you can find the manuals. The Saito 125 is about 8oz lighter and a little higher hp then the OS 120.
You'll see that if you use the OS (30.5oz) you will have to use a lot of weight in the tail. But check it out for your self.
I was going to use the Saito 180 which is 31oz but when I put it in I had to add to much weight (about 14 oz) to the tail so I'm switching to the Saito 125, fortunately I have one I was planning to put in another plane.
I’m not saying that OS not a good engine but there is a noticeable weight difference. The Saito 125 might be more expensive but as I said its lighter and hp is higher. Check RCU for some deals. I paid $270.00 for Saito 125 that was only broke in on the bench.
If you know someone that needs a Saito 180 I have one for sale.
Hope this helps.
Shubova
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Shubova

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I'm sorry I thought you said OS 120 4 stroke. You said OS120 AX 2 stroke. Since this is an aerobatic plane I personally think a 4 stroke like the Saito 125 is better suited for it. 4 strokes have more torque and the 125 has more hp then the 120AX.
As I said before check the manuals for yourself. You may also want to read up on the differences between 2 and 4 stroke engines.
Good Luck,
Shubova
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Zippi

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T Koffler,

I had thought about this plane but the Seagull YAK 54 & Extra 260 are a little on the heavy side at 8.4-9.9 lbs for their size. I went with the WH Extra 260 which is a much bigger plane at about the same weight. I have both the OS 120AX and the Saito 125 and and went with the OS 120AX since it can swing a bigger prop and has a lot more power. I have another OS 120AX on an Aeroworks YAK 54 .90-1.20 which is the same size as my WH Extra 260 and it has unlimited vertical. I think either engine will work fine on this plane but I like the OS 120AX for it's power.

T Koffler

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Zippi,
Thanks for the info! I was looking at both engines and I was suprised to see the RPM range on the 120 AX was just about the same as the Saito. Looking at the specs looks like the OS would be a real torque monster for a 2 stroke in that size. I too was thinking about the WH Extra but I really could not pass up the deal I got on this plane! I mean, $130 for a plane in this size and quality was awesome! Nearly ZERO pucker factor of knife edge a couple feet off the ground. Ya'know? As I said earlier, I'm just getting back into the hobby after about 6 years off and the quality of these ARF's have REALLY improved! Also the new engine sizes really opens up new opportunities! The last plane I bought was a Seagull Razzle and I put a saito 91 on that and it flies light and hovers easily with plenty of power.. The new 1.20 size or 25% planes with the new power options seems like a great combination of power, wing loading and overall size.

Sorry for wandering on about all this junk, I'm just excited about all the new gear... Thanks again!!!

Zippi

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T Koffler,

I was out of the hobby for over 10 years and got back in about 5 years ago. The advancement of the radio's and the ARF's are what got me back in. The joy of flying had a little to do with it as well . One thing I will tell you about the Seagull Laser 200, if you let it set out in the hot sun the canopy will come loose. It's held on with some sort of yellow tape. I always keep a beach towl over my planes anymore. The Laser 200 was indeed a great looking and flying plane and was very well built. Post some pics as you start the assembly.

T Koffler

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Zippi,
The plane I just bought is the Seagull Extra 260 (90-1.25). The other plane I was talking about is my Seagull Razzle. Real ugly plane but flies GREAT!
I started to put the Extra together, I just finished the hinges. I used the Radio South ca hinges (the blue ones). And glued with BSI flexible ca hinge glue. This stuff really works good! The reason ca higes fail is usually because people use too much glue and that makes them brittle. This flexible glue eliminates that problem...

T Koffler

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Has anyone used the carbon contol rods that are included in the kit for aileron and elevator linkage?

Shubova

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mflander
I was looking at the pics of your 260. You say you used a Satio 125...how did you get the muffler to come out the bottom. I decided to intall the 125 in mine but no matter which way to turn the exhaust pipe and muffler I can''t get it to come out the bottom.
What did you do?
Shubova
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chuck993

I have a 120 AX, how is it in the aeroworks yak? Can it hover? Just curious, I had it in the seagull yak 54 90 size, but switched it out.

porathl

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I have the Extra 260 90. Flew the first one witha SAITO 100 it was OK but I was not trying to do any 3D stuff, just learning some pattern moves. I have one of the old SAITO 120's and placed it on the motor mount, it would require a different mount and a lot of tail weight. The plane CG is good with the OS 91 or a SAITO 100.

Good luck the plane flies great.

Shubova

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I used the Saito 125, lighter than the old 120 by 220g with the same HP and it's perfect. Flys great...3D etc.
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chuck993

Has anyone tried this plane with a Zenoah G20EI?

jmohar

Planning on putting a Brillelli 26 on mine. Waiting on the motor to arrive and my ankle to heal up. Tried to show my boys that skateboarding is fun. Broke it good, 8 pins and a plate. Still going to be couple of weeks before I will be able to get back to building and flying.

chuck993

Hmmm...seems to me to be too big for this plane. Has anyone weighed the plane, parts, etc before building it?

Shubova

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I put a Saito 125 in mine and it has more then enough power to do what I want. I had a friend who is very good at aerobatics fly it and it did everything...knife edge, hover and inverted flat spinn, etc. I would consider the weight before going to a larger engine. If a 125 or its equvilant in gas does it why would you want to add any more needles weight.
This statement is not directed at anyone in perticular! I see a lot of people with this macho additude...big engine, lots of power, I must have a big .... too. When it comes to planes a bigger engine is not always better.
Well good luck and Happy Flying!
Shubova
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