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    RE: Great Planes Escapade .40 ARF

    Yep. From the very beginning there was always some guy who wanted or did overpower the 40 Escapade. If you really want to do it, go ahead. For me, I think trying to get enough power without being crazy is where I would want to be. But that's just my opinion and I haven't put mine together yet. I plan on using a Magnum XLS 46. Should be plenty of power.

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    RE: Great Planes Escapade .40 ARF

    Tom, I have been flying my Escapade 40 with a Magnum XLS 46 for four years and it is plenty of power.

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    RE: Great Planes Escapade .40 ARF

    How fast would you consider 'high speed' for the Escapade? I've clocked mine at 98mph (running electric) and it's rock solid.


    ORIGINAL: jeffie8696

    The Epade is known for having difficulties with high speed flutter so pushing the speed is done with caution.

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    RE: Great Planes Escapade .40 ARF

    Perhaps yours has had the mods to prevent flutter? Or maybe you got one of the better ones. Mine fluttered with an Irvine 53 using an 11X7 prop. No damage but it did get my attention. And I had made mods to stop flutter.
    I am not being critical of the Epade it is one of my favorite planes but it has its limitations.
    In fact I am leaving just now to go fly it.
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    So, what happened to this thread? I am happy to report that I have literally nearly flown the wheels off my Epade and it is still fantastic. I have tried several engines and so far my favorite is the four stroke 52. It currently has an old Super Tigre 40 which does a good job too.
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    I've powered mine with Super tiger 40 and 45 engines, and an OS 70 surpass. The Super Tiger 45 was my favorite, and fastest, clocked on radar 105.
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    What's with the bolt holding the fuse sides together? Is that needed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffie8696 View Post
    So, what happened to this thread? I am happy to report that I have literally nearly flown the wheels off my Epade and it is still fantastic. I have tried several engines and so far my favorite is the four stroke 52. It currently has an old Super Tigre 40 which does a good job too.
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    I needed a little nose weight and at the same time it strengthens the cheeks so they don't vibrate. 2 birds
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    Thanks for the tip! Just finishing one up now for my buddy.....gee, that thing went together fast!
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    They certainly are a fast building plane and fly well too. Top value for my money.
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    Would saito 65 be enough for this plane? Also how does the canopy come?

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    Plenty, mine flies well with a 52 four stroke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtBm...SXPIF7UE5LWLDw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloviper View Post
    Would saito 65 be enough for this plane? Also how does the canopy come?
    The canopy is a plastic over lite-ply assembly. It slides on and latches with a magnet.

    I also have run 5 different engines on it and plan on testing a sixth one next summer. I have not tried any 4-strokes yet because I would have to carve out the cowl cheeks for the needle valve. You don't need that for 2-strokds unless you use a remote needle. Mine is 6 years old and I've already had to do repairs and recovering, but still flies great.
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    And now , for something completely different , I present , , !!!! NAKED Escapade !!!!

    This is my version of one of my favorite planes . It has a few small modifications that I incorporated in it's assembly such as ;

    All control surfaces have full length mylar hinges to keep any air from becoming turbulent at the control surface . This is done in an attempt to eliminate flutter , which has not yet been seen in this model with the sealed hinges .

    Tail surfaces are glued on , after regluing the infamous not well glued elevator joiner rod , mine is one of the first sold and did have the improperly glued joiner . I was just lucky to be a few months lazy getting it done and by then the problem was widely known , see , procrastination ain't ALL bad

    I removed all stickers and replaced them with my AMA number . Looks somewhat cleaner in my opinion .

    No pilot cause my running joke is that "It's MY seat , why would I let some other guy sit there ?"

    On board glow cause I'm lazy and don't like fiddling around with glow sticks . Flick a switch on the TX , Flip the prop , and fly

    I always favor wood props and real metal spinners , OK , call me old fashioned but plastic just don't do it for me , prop and spinner wise .

    Anyway , I tried to give a close up of the needle valve and that in this particular instance with an OS 56 FSa , no carving of the cheeks was needed (OUCH !!! Sounds flippin painful !)
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    Very clean!!
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    By the way, is this thread also including the newer Escapade MX, or is there a separate thread for that?
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    Thank you hsukaria , and in my opinion , any talk of any kind of Escapade oughta be ok , course I am not any kinds of "thread purist" and consider ALL plane talk worthy of being printed

    A couple of things i forgot to mention were that I went with nylon bolts on the landing gear as well as a decent set of DuBro rubber wheels . I also went with the optional two servo setup on the Ailerons rather than the single . I realize it's twice the weight , but with the sealed hinges one servo seemed to be slower in full left to full right stick maneuvers than the dual servos are . Even with the on board glow I still came out a tiny bit tail heavy and chose to add extra nose weight in the form of a brushed on coating of thinned down epoxy to all exposed wood of the firewall and cheeks . I do this to every glow or gas ARF I have and have not lost one yet to the dreaded "firewall mush" that unprotected wood turns into after being soaked in fuel for a while .

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    It needs some decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by init4fun View Post
    Thank you hsukaria , and in my opinion , any talk of any kind of Escapade oughta be ok , course I am not any kinds of "thread purist" and consider ALL plane talk worthy of being printed

    A couple of things i forgot to mention were that I went with nylon bolts on the landing gear as well as a decent set of DuBro rubber wheels . I also went with the optional two servo setup on the Ailerons rather than the single . I realize it's twice the weight , but with the sealed hinges one servo seemed to be slower in full left to full right stick maneuvers than the dual servos are . Even with the on board glow I still came out a tiny bit tail heavy and chose to add extra nose weight in the form of a brushed on coating of thinned down epoxy to all exposed wood of the firewall and cheeks . I do this to every glow or gas ARF I have and have not lost one yet to the dreaded "firewall mush" that unprotected wood turns into after being soaked in fuel for a while .
    Great thing about the thinned epoxy. I ended up having to repair the nose of my Escapade and went ahead and brushed the insides with thinned epoxy. I brushed Balsarite on the outside before recovering to seal and improve covering adhesion. Just watch out for the cowl cheeks flexing/vibrating, it will weaken the firewall glue joints. My firewall glue joints actually cracked due to the cheek vibration. I reglued with balsa tri-stock and added a piece of wood below the engine (same idea as Jeffie's bolt).
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