Top Flite Cessna 182 ARF
04-21-2012, 08:47 AM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 ARF
I don't know how I would do that. They are hooked up thru a Y connection. The reciever is a 7 ch., I tried to hook them up on ch. 6 and 7 but I could not get them to work properly. I think if I could get them to work right on the 2 channels, that would be the way to go. Is there another way to adjust the throw on 1 servo? The radio is a Futaba7C 2.4. I just got it at Christmas so I'm still learning the programing.
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04-21-2012, 09:14 AM
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I did not realize you had talked up on a Y Lead. I have a similarr situation with my TF Bonanza and decided to hook each flap to its own channel and Y the ailerons . Another solution is to hook up the servos to a programmer to adjust them
04-21-2012, 06:12 PM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 ARF
I think I'm gonna try to match the servos first and see if that solves the problem. I still think there is a way to use channel 6 and 7, I just have to figure out the programing. It has to be the servos, everything else is the same.
Useing the digital servos from the Four Star may be the only way to go. Thanks for the advise rgaynor. I see that you are in Marietta, about 50 mi. south of me. Small world.
Useing the digital servos from the Four Star may be the only way to go. Thanks for the advise rgaynor. I see that you are in Marietta, about 50 mi. south of me. Small world.
04-23-2012, 11:02 AM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 ARF
I have solved the flap issue, it was the servos. I put 2 S148's in and the problem was gone. Both flaps work perfectly now. My 182 is nearly complete. I have a servo rate reducer, remote glow plug connector and a dual power switchthat should be here with todays mail to install. Balanced and almost ready to fly it weighs 10lb. 10oz. I have not installed the cockpit kit yet, (have not ordered it yet). The above mentioned switches and parts will add about 2 to 3oz. I was able to balance without adding weight by moving my battaries around. I can't wait to fly it. Hopefully the weather will be good this weekend.
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04-23-2012, 11:24 AM
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Great about flaps problem. You'll love it flying. Is having the CG moved 1/2 to 1 inch backwards, go flying: your landing will be easier.
I suggest to paint the inside windshield in black, and add some detail finishing the windshield instalation. I'm adding a photo for you.
Wich servo reducer are you using for flaps?
Enjoy your Cessna...
Great job.
Nino
I suggest to paint the inside windshield in black, and add some detail finishing the windshield instalation. I'm adding a photo for you.
Wich servo reducer are you using for flaps?
Enjoy your Cessna...
Great job.
Nino
04-23-2012, 11:54 AM
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RE: Top Flite Cessna 182 ARF
Hi Wysiwyg: Excellent photos of your Cessna 182. I'll appreciate your help. Runing it with the OS 95V, wich prop do you recomend me 3-blade?
Thanks.
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Thanks.
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04-26-2012, 06:45 PM
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Got her all finished tonite, ready to fly. Final weight came out at 11lb 7oz. I'm amazed that the remote glow connector and dual power switch added that much weight. Wing load of 29.35oz. This thing is gonna fly great! I can't wait until Saturday. The flap servo rate reducer was a flop, Hyperion product, didn't work worth a damn. I may try a different brand later. WOOOHOOO! LETS GO FLYING! Well,....... maybe I should wait for daylight.[
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04-26-2012, 07:00 PM
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Hey KaP2011 - congrats on finishing your 182. I happen to have a flap servo rate reducer that works well. I used it in my 182 prior to getting a DX8 transmitter which has a builting in timer. it is yours for the asking - just ping me offline at [email protected]
04-27-2012, 10:23 AM
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KaP:... My best best wishes this weekend... Just get her up in the air and enjoy it. I suggest you to try first flight in LOWEST Rates.
Don't forget to send us photos... Ok?
Very bad notice about Hyperion rate... I Thought they were good products.
Again please: Wich engine and size prop are you using?
Rgaynor: Hi.... Do you know if the Futaba 10C transmitter is equipped with TIME, reducing the rate on flap servos? Thanks.
Don't forget to send us photos... Ok?
Very bad notice about Hyperion rate... I Thought they were good products.
Again please: Wich engine and size prop are you using?
Rgaynor: Hi.... Do you know if the Futaba 10C transmitter is equipped with TIME, reducing the rate on flap servos? Thanks.
04-27-2012, 10:50 AM
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Thanks bgoyos,
The engine is a Saito 100. I got her out in the driveway today and ran up the engine and did some taxi tests. It had not been ranfor about a year. Cranked right up and idled beautifully.I started with a Graupner 14X7 and it would top out at 8700 rpm, too low, changed to a Master Airscrew 13X8, topped out at 9600rpm, just about right. Switched to a 13X7 APC and it topped out at 10,700 rpm. I hate Master Airscrew props but that one seemed to be the best for the engine. I have an APC 13X9 that I did not try but I will tomorrow.
I'm very tempted to go fly her this afternoon but for safety' sake I will wait for tomorrow when I have some friends and an expert pilot near by.
Thanks for the offer of the rate reducer Ron, I accept but I would rather pay you for it, or at the least pay for postage.
The engine is a Saito 100. I got her out in the driveway today and ran up the engine and did some taxi tests. It had not been ranfor about a year. Cranked right up and idled beautifully.I started with a Graupner 14X7 and it would top out at 8700 rpm, too low, changed to a Master Airscrew 13X8, topped out at 9600rpm, just about right. Switched to a 13X7 APC and it topped out at 10,700 rpm. I hate Master Airscrew props but that one seemed to be the best for the engine. I have an APC 13X9 that I did not try but I will tomorrow.
I'm very tempted to go fly her this afternoon but for safety' sake I will wait for tomorrow when I have some friends and an expert pilot near by.
Thanks for the offer of the rate reducer Ron, I accept but I would rather pay you for it, or at the least pay for postage.
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KaP:... My best best wishes this weekend... Just get her up in the air and enjoy it. I suggest you to try first flight in LOWEST Rates.
Don't forget to send us photos... Ok?
Very bad notice about Hyperion rate... I Thought they were good products.
Again please: Wich engine and size prop are you using?
Rgaynor: Hi.... Do you know if the Futaba 10C transmitter is equipped with TIME, reducing the rate on flap servos? Thanks.
KaP:... My best best wishes this weekend... Just get her up in the air and enjoy it. I suggest you to try first flight in LOWEST Rates.
Don't forget to send us photos... Ok?
Very bad notice about Hyperion rate... I Thought they were good products.
Again please: Wich engine and size prop are you using?
Rgaynor: Hi.... Do you know if the Futaba 10C transmitter is equipped with TIME, reducing the rate on flap servos? Thanks.
04-27-2012, 11:03 AM
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What prop are you running now? You would want to goone size smaller, example - 13X8 two blade to a 12X8 three blade. Do you have a tachometer? You want your rpm's to be around 9,500 to 10,000. Too low and your engine will run toohot, too high and you run the risk of engine damage. I have seen a four stroke ran too fast and float the valves resulting in critical damage. The rpm was around 12,500.
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Hi Wysiwyg: Excellent photos of your Cessna 182. I'll appreciate your help. Runing it with the OS 95V, wich prop do you recomend me 3-blade?
Thanks.
Nino
Hi Wysiwyg: Excellent photos of your Cessna 182. I'll appreciate your help. Runing it with the OS 95V, wich prop do you recomend me 3-blade?
Thanks.
Nino
04-28-2012, 11:30 AM
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She flys B-E-A-UTIFLY! Flew her 6 times today. I was comfortable from the first flight, and it just got better. Wind got up to 10 to 15mph and it hardly noticed it. I Love This Plane!
I do need to get a vibration isolation mount for the engine though.
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I do need to get a vibration isolation mount for the engine though.
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04-29-2012, 08:40 PM
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I did a post flight inspection today and discovered hair-line cracks in the balsa sheeting on each side of the vertical stabilizer where it attaches to the fuselage. It was an easy repair with some thin CA. This is an area that will have to be watched closely. I've got an anti-vibration engine mount ordered, hopefully that will eliminate some of the vibration. I plan on flying some more this week, I'm going to try a 12X8 Graupner 3 blade on it, it looks kind of small but I know a 13" 3 blade would be too much for the engine. The Graupner is a heavy prop, I may need to go with something lighter.
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05-01-2012, 06:47 AM
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Great, great KAP..... Very happy to know that you have enjoyed your first flights.... Congrats... Did you take photos... video.... Post us some... Have good day.
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New to this posting stuff. need a tail cone for the Top Flite Cessna 182 arf if anyone would like to part with one. If so contact me at email
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05-25-2012, 03:56 PM
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I've seen them on ebay a few times. I think thru Tower you have to get the whole Fuse kit to get it. I believe that if you contact Top Flite you may be ablr to get just the tail cone. Good luck in your search.
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New to this posting stuff. need a tail cone for the Top Flite Cessna 182 arf if anyone would like to part with one. If so contact me at email
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New to this posting stuff. need a tail cone for the Top Flite Cessna 182 arf if anyone would like to part with one. If so contact me at email
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05-28-2012, 04:39 PM
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Hi KaP2011 - I read with interest your comments on your vertical stab to fuz connectionseparating or appearing to. This problem has been noted a few times in this forum - I think you might find the following posts and other info in between these posts useful.
Page 42 : Posts 1034 and 1040
Page 43: Posts 1057, 1060 and 1068
Page 44 : Posts 1081 and 1083
If you have time, read all this forum from beginning to end - there is an amazing amount of good info in this forum for this model.
It took me a few attempts to fixmy rudderflutter problem which by the way is generally caused by the aerodynamic effects of the wind speed over the rudder at higher aircraft speeds and the not so good way the rudder is connected back to the servo - and even nowmine is just ok from my last fix.
I think the best way to stop rudder flutter is to ditch the supplied rudder control arm assembly and replace it with a rudder control rod that you make yourself. This rod with its 90 degree bend enters the leading edge of the rudder via an inset hardwood block that you also make and fit yourself.This will strengthen the rudder control rod connection into the rudder.
The control rod then proceedsalong and is epoxied to the bottom part of the rudderand the other straight end is then secured into a hardwood block securely fixed to the elevator stab underside -this block isthencross braced to the fuz sides at that location - makea cross arm that is silver soldered to this control rod to facilitate a rudder pull pull cable system - so nothing can move.
Find the best location for this cross arm relative to where your rudder servo cables alignment dictates and do the welding before assembling the new rudder control arm assembly into the fuz - plastic covering and balsa don't like flames and heat from welding in situ.
Sure you might have to cut the hinges and rehinge to do the above fix, but it's a small price to pay compared to losing your aircraft due to a potential rudder failure whilst flying.
You will also read in the above posts the idea to reinforce the vertical stab connection thru to the horizontal stab which will also help reduce flutter as the vertical stab is only glued to the fuz top balsa sheeting which is not a strong connection.
I hope the above helps.
cheers - maxiemac - smile it don't hurt
05-29-2012, 08:33 AM
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Hi KaP2011 - I read with interest your comments on your vertical stab to fuz connectionseparating or appearing to. This problem has been noted a few times in this forum - I think you might find the following posts and other info in between these posts useful.
Page 42 : Posts 1034 and 1040
Page 43: Posts 1057, 1060 and 1068
Page 44 : Posts 1081 and 1083
If you have time, read all this forum from beginning to end - there is an amazing amount of good info in this forum for this model.
It took me a few attempts to fixmy rudderflutter problem which by the way is generally caused by the aerodynamic effects of the wind speed over the rudder at higher aircraft speeds and the not so good way the rudder is connected back to the servo - and even nowmine is just ok from my last fix.
I think the best way to stop rudder flutter is to ditch the supplied rudder control arm assembly and replace it with a rudder control rod that you make yourself. This rod with its 90 degree bend enters the leading edge of the rudder via an inset hardwood block that you also make and fit yourself.This will strengthen the rudder control rod connection into the rudder.
The control rod then proceedsalong and is epoxied to the bottom part of the rudderand the other straight end is then secured into a hardwood block securely fixed to the elevator stab underside -this block isthencross braced to the fuz sides at that location - makea cross arm that is silver soldered to this control rod to facilitate a rudder pull pull cable system - so nothing can move.
Find the best location for this cross arm relative to where your rudder servo cables alignment dictates and do the welding before assembling the new rudder control arm assembly into the fuz - plastic covering and balsa don't like flames and heat from welding in situ.
Sure you might have to cut the hinges and rehinge to do the above fix, but it's a small price to pay compared to losing your aircraft due to a potential rudder failure whilst flying.
You will also read in the above posts the idea to reinforce the vertical stab connection thru to the horizontal stab which will also help reduce flutter as the vertical stab is only glued to the fuz top balsa sheeting which is not a strong connection.
I hope the above helps.
cheers - maxiemac - smile it don't hurt
Hi KaP2011 - I read with interest your comments on your vertical stab to fuz connectionseparating or appearing to. This problem has been noted a few times in this forum - I think you might find the following posts and other info in between these posts useful.
Page 42 : Posts 1034 and 1040
Page 43: Posts 1057, 1060 and 1068
Page 44 : Posts 1081 and 1083
If you have time, read all this forum from beginning to end - there is an amazing amount of good info in this forum for this model.
It took me a few attempts to fixmy rudderflutter problem which by the way is generally caused by the aerodynamic effects of the wind speed over the rudder at higher aircraft speeds and the not so good way the rudder is connected back to the servo - and even nowmine is just ok from my last fix.
I think the best way to stop rudder flutter is to ditch the supplied rudder control arm assembly and replace it with a rudder control rod that you make yourself. This rod with its 90 degree bend enters the leading edge of the rudder via an inset hardwood block that you also make and fit yourself.This will strengthen the rudder control rod connection into the rudder.
The control rod then proceedsalong and is epoxied to the bottom part of the rudderand the other straight end is then secured into a hardwood block securely fixed to the elevator stab underside -this block isthencross braced to the fuz sides at that location - makea cross arm that is silver soldered to this control rod to facilitate a rudder pull pull cable system - so nothing can move.
Find the best location for this cross arm relative to where your rudder servo cables alignment dictates and do the welding before assembling the new rudder control arm assembly into the fuz - plastic covering and balsa don't like flames and heat from welding in situ.
Sure you might have to cut the hinges and rehinge to do the above fix, but it's a small price to pay compared to losing your aircraft due to a potential rudder failure whilst flying.
You will also read in the above posts the idea to reinforce the vertical stab connection thru to the horizontal stab which will also help reduce flutter as the vertical stab is only glued to the fuz top balsa sheeting which is not a strong connection.
I hope the above helps.
cheers - maxiemac - smile it don't hurt
Hi maxiemac, I did read the whole thread before I even got my plane. When I did get it I was already aware of the flutter issue and took steps to correct the problem as I put it together. So far I have not had any problems with flutter. As for the cracks alongside the verticle stabilizer, I believe the first crack happened the firsttime I ran up the engine.It had not been ran in awhile so was rough running at firstand was viberating the fuse very bad. It got worse when I flew it the first day. Since I made the repair I have not had any problems. I've been keeping an eye on it and it's as tight as the day I made the repair.
05-30-2012, 08:22 AM
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Thanks for the reply. Just got off the phone with Top Flite product support. Chris the guy I spoke with was very nice and tried to locate one in the warehouse but was unable to. Took my number down and said he would contact me if one shows up. Keeping an eye on Ebay also.
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