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Old 05-09-2013, 12:07 PM
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ahicks Thank you very much, I will start with a 140 mm
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lecgo41,
You may have a tough time getting the plane to balance at 140mm? Maybe nose heavy? If it gets to the point where you are adding weight to the tail to get it to balance, many of us flying this plane with gas have moved the elevator servo(s) to the back of the plane for the purpose of balancing?
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lecgo41,
You may have a tough time getting the plane to balance at 140mm? Maybe nose heavy? If it gets to the point where you are adding weight to the tail to get it to balance, many of us flying this plane with gas have moved the elevator servo(s) to the back of the plane for the purpose of balancing?
140mm - this greatly front center of gravity? , then can 150mm do?

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Is anyone useing a 15x8 xoar with the dle20!? If so what kind of rpm numbers are you geting? the high idle im geting is around 9000 to 9100..

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lecgo41,
You may have a tough time getting the plane to balance at 140mm? Maybe nose heavy? If it gets to the point where you are adding weight to the tail to get it to balance, many of us flying this plane with gas have moved the elevator servo(s) to the back of the plane for the purpose of balancing?
140mm - this greatly front center of gravity? , then can 150mm do?

The plane will be controllable at 150mm - but might be a bit much to handle for a pilot not familiar flying a performance type plane? If you are familiar flying a sport plane, and have been flying a lot very recently, sure, go for it! If it's been a while since you have flown, you might want to have the CG set at 140mm, or possibly have the plane test flown and trimmed for you by somebody you feel is capable?
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greatlakespilot - Last weekend I flew with Knockoffs (see his excellent Rev 70 \ DLE 20 vids on Youtube). He's flying a Xoar 15x8 (black paint) - his plane is extremely fast.

Though wjc is flying a 14x12 (APC?) - and that sounds very fast - 118mph , I believe? I'm going to have to pick up a 14x12 and try that myself.
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Hello. I asked the wife to sew to me a cover under wings, the cover turned out very beautiful and strong. The total price is 220 rubles or 7,10 dollars. Time it is spent - 4 hours, very quickly.
Photo.

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The plane will be controllable at 150mm - but might be a bit much to handle for a pilot not familiar flying a performance type plane? If you are familiar flying a sport plane, and have been flying a lot very recently, sure, go for it! If it's been a while since you have flown, you might want to have the CG set at 140mm, or possibly have the plane test flown and trimmed for you by somebody you feel is capable?
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Thanks a lot, I will take into consideration.

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greatlakespilot - Last weekend I flew with Knockoffs (see his excellent Rev 70 \ DLE 20 vids on Youtube). He's flying a Xoar 15x8 (black paint) - his plane is extremely fast.

Though wjc is flying a 14x12 (APC?) - and that sounds very fast - 118mph , I believe? I'm going to have to pick up a 14x12 and try that myself.
microdon2- thanks for the info. I have followed knockoffs for sometime now and built my revolver exactly like his! Except i am useing the xoar 15x8 beachwood prop and im geting (9000) to (9100)rpm And i noticed he was geting (9800)-(9900)! is it because hes useing the black xoar??
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You are lucky, if I ask my wife to spend 4 hrs sewing wing bags she will laugh at me. She hates my planes.
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was out wiggling my thumbs last night for the first time this year. flew the revolver. so my fourth season with this bird has begun. felt a little rusty, mostly flew figure eights while concentrating on a smooth and light touch. still loving this plane. bought four cases of fuel at my LHS to get the season started. i like to buy in bulk so that i can save money on gasoline by not having to run back and forth to the LHS. local club field is in great shape, grass, 500'x500' ish square in the middle of farm fields and of course the crops are not up yet. the closest trees are a half a mile away.

my youngest kid just graduated collage, was number one in her field, had six job offers without applying anywhere,she starts her new job next wed. . you know what they say number one gets to do, 'anything they want'. i keep telling her that she now has to send 20% of all earnings to me. that's the rule right? i paid for her schooling and now she can contribute towards my hobbies, right? have not gotten a firm responce yet but i am trying! i know, off topic, but damm i am proud!

i still loving this bird! still think it is one of the great rc planes!

happy flying, capt
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Capt - congrats on your #1. I've heard a few people say that the Rev 70 is their favorite of all of their planes. I love having a variety of planes for their looks, personalities and flying characteristics, but, overall, the Rev 70 is my favorite, too. (though we'll see when I finally land that Rev 90).

wjc - has your Rev 90 surpassed your 70 as your favorite Revolver? (or of all of your planes??)

btw - I picked up a 48" Sig Fazer profile here on RCU for $20. Put in an old Megatech 46 2s and a receiver I already had, cleaned it up, set the throws, re-balanced, and maidened it today. What a fun plane! It's got good speed and vertical, and the roll rate is tremendous (on low rates). And its' a nice looking plane! Lands like a feather, too. Did a flat-spin easily. My friend was jealous! (always a good sign). $20!! I love getting a good deal on used planes...

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Old 05-10-2013, 06:09 PM
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mike, i have many planes that have found a home in my house. all different in there flying caracteristics. i like variaty as well. tonight i am putting together a 3d-u-can-do-it for yet another flavor. putting in a os 91 fx. yeah, still loving the fuel.

happy flying, capt
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Mike, I should warn you about profiles if that's your first. ANY profile. VERY contagious!

Have the Revolver back together after hitting a hole in the air with it last week. Turned out pretty good, though undoubtedly heavier up front, right where it doesn't need it! Anyone ever hear of helium filled spinners? Will see how this affects it's CG the first couple of flights. Honestly don't remember where I had it? Hopefully not affected too much? Of note during the rebuild is the fact the pull pull rudder servo grommets had pretty much turned to mush. Destroyed by constant knife edge flying? Waiting for weather now.

Capt1957, the graduation is great! The fact she did so well even better. That HAS to take away a lot of the sting for those education dollars! Now the relief of not having to go through that again likely starting to settle in as well? Congratulations.... to both of you!
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Al -

Funny you should mention profiles - from that same guy on RCU (he was having a "moving" sale) I picked up a 42" Ultimate Blue Hawk Bipe with OS 46 for $50! I'm working on it now. I never thought I was a profile flyer, but evidently I was wrong! Looking forward to flying this bipe soon.

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profiles planes can be like a plain woman, cheap and alot of fun!


thanks for the congrats! having kids that flurish is easy on the soul!


happy flying, capt
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Hey Capt who cares if is it off topic, congrats, I'm sure you had a lot to do with those accomplishments.
Now at least you deserve a NIB Rev 90
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I like how you think lopflyers!
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dle 20 -xoar 15x8- (9000 rpm sound right??
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Could be? The 16x8's are generally turning in the range of 8500 or so. That's a much safer rpm to be turning on the ground - knowing full well it's going to unload in the air. If you scream a DLE 20, you run a pretty good chance of squeaking the rod bearing sooner or later. That's been proven quite a few times - not sure there's even a point to it from a performance perspective?
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Could be? The 16x8's are generally turning in the range of 8500 or so. That's a much safer rpm to be turning on the ground - knowing full well it's going to unload in the air. If you scream a DLE 20, you run a pretty good chance of squeaking the rod bearing sooner or later. That's been proven quite a few times - not sure there's even a point to it from a performance perspective?
Was wondering because (knockoffs) you tube vid shows (9900)!? The only difference is hes runing the 15x8 (blackxoar) mine is the (beachwood) what gives!?!?
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Well, I would say if you want to try and match his performance, you could start by using the same prop, but there are a LOT of other variables in play......

Oil used, temp, humidity, barometric pressure, state of tune, state of break in, those are a few?
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Hi Mike
Been out of the country for a week, and away from the field for mre than that, so i am experiencing flying withdrawal again.

My favorite plane? Probably my AW Extra 300 / DLE55. It is superb. My R70 is right up there as well, as is the R90. My DLE55RA on the R90 needs more hours to get the power she needs to be her best. The R90 is a sweet airframe; not as capable as the AW Extra, or my 25% Extra 260 with respect to aerobatics, but it is definitely a delight to fly.

Next R70 project is getting the 13.5 pitch prop on her, retuning the needles, and getting her in the air with instruments.

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Well, I would say if you want to try and match his performance, you could start by using the same prop, but there are a LOT of other variables in play......

Oil used, temp, humidity, barometric pressure, state of tune, state of break in, those are a few?
the prop is the same 15x8 xoar only diff is his is black and mine is woodgrain ('beachwood') oil is klotz 32:1 breakin was done by the book 4500 rpm for 2hours. temp was in the 70's and i have no idea what the baromiter was that day! this is my 3rd dle 20 that i have tuned and this one is spot on as usual.. so im guesing theres a diff in the black prop and the woodgrain prop somehow even tho same pitch and same diameter.. im sure im better off being safearound 9000 rpm than 9900! was just curious as how hes turning more rpm thats all.


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