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For what you're wanting to do, the Xoar 17x6. Hands down. As for landing her in an acceptable distance the CG is important too. Getting started at 6" is a good place to start since you're looking for a "flies on rails" aerobat that lands nice.
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I was gonna suggest a Spit as well. Everyone loves the mustang, but if you wanna be different you can't go wrong with the Spitfire. Those beautiful elliptical wings always draw positive comments.
Oh, and just to give some encouragement...don't be worried about bigger planes. If you can fly little ones, big ones are a breeze. Only thing making them harder to fly is stress due to having more money in the air. Do whatever you need to calm your nerves before flying and you'll enjoy the big birds a lot.
Oh, and just to give some encouragement...don't be worried about bigger planes. If you can fly little ones, big ones are a breeze. Only thing making them harder to fly is stress due to having more money in the air. Do whatever you need to calm your nerves before flying and you'll enjoy the big birds a lot.
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I think you'll still be ok with the CG at 6" while you're getting used to it, if you've already had a few planes and you've been flying regularly.
With the 20's there's really 2 props most guys go with. The 16x8 and the 17x6. For what your talking about, the 17x6 will likely be the better plan. For flying from grass, the APC is hard to beat.
With the 20's there's really 2 props most guys go with. The 16x8 and the 17x6. For what your talking about, the 17x6 will likely be the better plan. For flying from grass, the APC is hard to beat.
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I agree that the Spit is one of the nicest "nontraditional" planes out there. The H9 one always seems to be out of stock, and is a little over what I would consider a fair threshold price for a 35cc bird. 1000 for airframe and retracts alone seems a little over the top. A nice 35cc DR1 ARF would be nice to find, or a Focke Wulf.
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You can't beat this. $200 and shipping is free from Tower until Jan 7.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LW4915&P=E
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LW4915&P=E
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Thanks for the heads up about the Tower discount. I have been waiting for over 5 months for my local distributor to get them in stock with no sign of them coming. Ordered one from Tower. Will be here (Australia ) in just over a week. Late Christmas present to myself. Yahoo !
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Ordered the Revolver on Friday and it was delivered on Thursday from Tower Hobbies. Not bad considering I'm located half way around the world from them.
I waited 6 months for my local store to deliver and they couldn't ( they even took my deposit ) and Tower got it to me in 6 days for the same price. Guess who is going to get my business from now on.
Anyway apart from a few wrinkles in the covering it looks great. Will throw it together this week and will keep you posted on the outcome.
Cheers,
Rick
I waited 6 months for my local store to deliver and they couldn't ( they even took my deposit ) and Tower got it to me in 6 days for the same price. Guess who is going to get my business from now on.
Anyway apart from a few wrinkles in the covering it looks great. Will throw it together this week and will keep you posted on the outcome.
Cheers,
Rick
#7966
Just a quick update with the Revolver.
First flight yesterday and two more flights today. Overall I'm very impressed with the construction and flight behaviour. Just shaking down the plane at the moment to fit my style of flying. I found like everyone else that having this kit fitted with a DLE 20 up front is brilliant. It's a very slippery airframe. I can see this as being my "fun plane" to just have a blast around with. Smiles all round at the local field.
Thank's to all the contributors to this thread - your advice and experience has made a nice kit into an awesome plane.
Cheers,
Rick
First flight yesterday and two more flights today. Overall I'm very impressed with the construction and flight behaviour. Just shaking down the plane at the moment to fit my style of flying. I found like everyone else that having this kit fitted with a DLE 20 up front is brilliant. It's a very slippery airframe. I can see this as being my "fun plane" to just have a blast around with. Smiles all round at the local field.
Thank's to all the contributors to this thread - your advice and experience has made a nice kit into an awesome plane.
Cheers,
Rick
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Hey everyone! super late to the party on this airframe. Coming back to RC, just ordered REV 70, gonna fit it with a DLE20. I'm coming back and this is my first time working with a gas engine so I have some questions if you folks could help. I'm sure if I dug hard enough in this thread I could find answers but it's 300 pages!
1. Battery - from what I'm seeing LIFE batteries are the way to go, considerably lighter. Do I need two? I read somewhere you can use one 2100mAh for both ignition and RX. Should I get a 2100 and a 1300 or will one do fine? Also, I noticed the battery has like 4 leads, where do they all go? One each to the RX and one to the receiver and one to the charger? The charger I have support LIFE batteries and has a lead similar to one of the ones coming out of the battery
1A - the life batteries have 6.6v? output. Does this mean I need a regulator between it and the RX?
2. Onboard Tachometer, worth it? need it?
3. Should I attach a servo for the choke or is using a friction based rod system okay?
Thanks everyone, super excited to get back in the game with this one. Especially since all of you seem to have done all the work and experimentation!
1. Battery - from what I'm seeing LIFE batteries are the way to go, considerably lighter. Do I need two? I read somewhere you can use one 2100mAh for both ignition and RX. Should I get a 2100 and a 1300 or will one do fine? Also, I noticed the battery has like 4 leads, where do they all go? One each to the RX and one to the receiver and one to the charger? The charger I have support LIFE batteries and has a lead similar to one of the ones coming out of the battery
1A - the life batteries have 6.6v? output. Does this mean I need a regulator between it and the RX?
2. Onboard Tachometer, worth it? need it?
3. Should I attach a servo for the choke or is using a friction based rod system okay?
Thanks everyone, super excited to get back in the game with this one. Especially since all of you seem to have done all the work and experimentation!
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Hey everyone! super late to the party on this airframe. Coming back to RC, just ordered REV 70, gonna fit it with a DLE20. I'm coming back and this is my first time working with a gas engine so I have some questions if you folks could help. I'm sure if I dug hard enough in this thread I could find answers but it's 300 pages!
1. Battery - from what I'm seeing LIFE batteries are the way to go, considerably lighter. Do I need two? I read somewhere you can use one 2100mAh for both ignition and RX. Should I get a 2100 and a 1300 or will one do fine? Also, I noticed the battery has like 4 leads, where do they all go? One each to the RX and one to the receiver and one to the charger? The charger I have support LIFE batteries and has a lead similar to one of the ones coming out of the battery
1A - the life batteries have 6.6v? output. Does this mean I need a regulator between it and the RX?
2. Onboard Tachometer, worth it? need it?
3. Should I attach a servo for the choke or is using a friction based rod system okay?
Thanks everyone, super excited to get back in the game with this one. Especially since all of you seem to have done all the work and experimentation!
1. Battery - from what I'm seeing LIFE batteries are the way to go, considerably lighter. Do I need two? I read somewhere you can use one 2100mAh for both ignition and RX. Should I get a 2100 and a 1300 or will one do fine? Also, I noticed the battery has like 4 leads, where do they all go? One each to the RX and one to the receiver and one to the charger? The charger I have support LIFE batteries and has a lead similar to one of the ones coming out of the battery
1A - the life batteries have 6.6v? output. Does this mean I need a regulator between it and the RX?
2. Onboard Tachometer, worth it? need it?
3. Should I attach a servo for the choke or is using a friction based rod system okay?
Thanks everyone, super excited to get back in the game with this one. Especially since all of you seem to have done all the work and experimentation!
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Agree with all he said, but would add that if you haven't bought one already, the DLE RA (rear exhaust) makes for a really clean install.
You will likely want metal gear servos. If nothing else, it's a good habit to get into when going gas.
Other than that, I would remind you that you want to keep it as light as possible. Ounces here and there do make a difference! Trouble there will pay handsomely when you start flying. Best way to keep it light is to pay attention to your CG during the building process. Before mounting any of the radio gear in the fuse, do a CG test to see where stuff needs to go to balance. As mentioned, elevator servo is usually mounted in back.
Last (but no way least!) look into the alum. landing gear reinforcement. You can do it much easier as the plane is being built, or you can glue broken parts back together and then do it. Your call. You will be doing it....
You will likely want metal gear servos. If nothing else, it's a good habit to get into when going gas.
Other than that, I would remind you that you want to keep it as light as possible. Ounces here and there do make a difference! Trouble there will pay handsomely when you start flying. Best way to keep it light is to pay attention to your CG during the building process. Before mounting any of the radio gear in the fuse, do a CG test to see where stuff needs to go to balance. As mentioned, elevator servo is usually mounted in back.
Last (but no way least!) look into the alum. landing gear reinforcement. You can do it much easier as the plane is being built, or you can glue broken parts back together and then do it. Your call. You will be doing it....
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Ah yes, I forgot to mention the gear reinforcement. Very important!!! Like aHicks said, do it while you're building. Repairing after it rips out (and it will rip out) just makes it harder.
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Hey everyone! super late to the party on this airframe. Coming back to RC, just ordered REV 70, gonna fit it with a DLE20. I'm coming back and this is my first time working with a gas engine so I have some questions if you folks could help. I'm sure if I dug hard enough in this thread I could find answers but it's 300 pages!
1. Battery - from what I'm seeing LIFE batteries are the way to go, considerably lighter. Do I need two? I read somewhere you can use one 2100mAh for both ignition and RX. Should I get a 2100 and a 1300 or will one do fine? Also, I noticed the battery has like 4 leads, where do they all go? One each to the RX and one to the receiver and one to the charger? The charger I have support LIFE batteries and has a lead similar to one of the ones coming out of the battery
I am going to assume you are using a Hobbico LIfe battery, It will have a large Deans connector, a couple of smaller JR connectors and a balance charge lead. For a little plane like this you can use the two small JR leads. Run each one to a separate switch. One switch to turn on the plane and one switch to turn on the engine. This way the battery acts as a filter between the engine and the receiver. If you use one switch and a Y harness you lose the battery as a filter and could get ignition noise back to the Rx if you have ignition problems. This is what I have been told but personally I use an IBEC on my planes to isolate the ignition.
On smaller 35cc and under planes I use one battery. You will want to save weight where ever you can.
1A - the life batteries have 6.6v? output. Does this mean I need a regulator between it and the RX?
No, you are fine.
2. Onboard Tachometer, worth it? need it?
Up to you, it can be handy but unnecessary. Once a gas engine is broke in and tuned it seldom needs the needles touched.
3. Should I attach a servo for the choke or is using a friction based rod system okay?A rod routed out of the cowl is a nice light solution. If you are not using an electronic engine shutdown a choke servo is another way of shutting off the engine.
Thanks everyone, super excited to get back in the game with this one. Especially since all of you seem to have done all the work and experimentation!
1. Battery - from what I'm seeing LIFE batteries are the way to go, considerably lighter. Do I need two? I read somewhere you can use one 2100mAh for both ignition and RX. Should I get a 2100 and a 1300 or will one do fine? Also, I noticed the battery has like 4 leads, where do they all go? One each to the RX and one to the receiver and one to the charger? The charger I have support LIFE batteries and has a lead similar to one of the ones coming out of the battery
I am going to assume you are using a Hobbico LIfe battery, It will have a large Deans connector, a couple of smaller JR connectors and a balance charge lead. For a little plane like this you can use the two small JR leads. Run each one to a separate switch. One switch to turn on the plane and one switch to turn on the engine. This way the battery acts as a filter between the engine and the receiver. If you use one switch and a Y harness you lose the battery as a filter and could get ignition noise back to the Rx if you have ignition problems. This is what I have been told but personally I use an IBEC on my planes to isolate the ignition.
On smaller 35cc and under planes I use one battery. You will want to save weight where ever you can.
1A - the life batteries have 6.6v? output. Does this mean I need a regulator between it and the RX?
No, you are fine.
2. Onboard Tachometer, worth it? need it?
Up to you, it can be handy but unnecessary. Once a gas engine is broke in and tuned it seldom needs the needles touched.
3. Should I attach a servo for the choke or is using a friction based rod system okay?A rod routed out of the cowl is a nice light solution. If you are not using an electronic engine shutdown a choke servo is another way of shutting off the engine.
Thanks everyone, super excited to get back in the game with this one. Especially since all of you seem to have done all the work and experimentation!
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Thanks for the all the replies everyone. Per everyone's advice I will
- use 1 battery
- pick up an IBEC
- definitely reinforce the landing gear
- mount the rudder servo in the back (planned on this anyhow)
For servos I'm using Futaba 9402s from my old Funtana 100. Hitec HS 225BB for the throttle.
Hope to be in the air in a couple of weeks
Thanks again guys
- use 1 battery
- pick up an IBEC
- definitely reinforce the landing gear
- mount the rudder servo in the back (planned on this anyhow)
For servos I'm using Futaba 9402s from my old Funtana 100. Hitec HS 225BB for the throttle.
Hope to be in the air in a couple of weeks
Thanks again guys
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Thanks for the all the replies everyone. Per everyone's advice I will
- use 1 battery
- pick up an IBEC
- definitely reinforce the landing gear
- mount the rudder servo in the back (planned on this anyhow)
For servos I'm using Futaba 9402s from my old Funtana 100. Hitec HS 225BB for the throttle.
Hope to be in the air in a couple of weeks
Thanks again guys
- use 1 battery
- pick up an IBEC
- definitely reinforce the landing gear
- mount the rudder servo in the back (planned on this anyhow)
For servos I'm using Futaba 9402s from my old Funtana 100. Hitec HS 225BB for the throttle.
Hope to be in the air in a couple of weeks
Thanks again guys
As for the switches, I know a lot of guys use a switch for the ignition because that's what they are used to doing, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, I spoke with Ed Alt (who makes all the tech aero stuff) and he told me there is no need to use a switch with the IBEC. The IBEC is the switch. It saves weight, but more importantly in my opinion, it's one less thing to fail (unless you use a switch that fails in the ON position). The tech aero IBEC is probably more reliable than most switches on the market. If you have something as crazy as a radio failure and you can't kill the engine, if you kill the Rx via a switch on the plane, it's the same result as killing the ignition with a switch on the plane. So, why make it more complicated when you don't need to? Just my opinion. I like simplicity.
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Perfect. The tech aero IBEC is a must in my opinion, and your servos are perfect as well. Metal gears are a must on gas planes.
As for the switches, I know a lot of guys use a switch for the ignition because that's what they are used to doing, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, I spoke with Ed Alt (who makes all the tech aero stuff) and he told me there is no need to use a switch with the IBEC. The IBEC is the switch. It saves weight, but more importantly in my opinion, it's one less thing to fail (unless you use a switch that fails in the ON position). The tech aero IBEC is probably more reliable than most switches on the market. If you have something as crazy as a radio failure and you can't kill the engine, if you kill the Rx via a switch on the plane, it's the same result as killing the ignition with a switch on the plane. So, why make it more complicated when you don't need to? Just my opinion. I like simplicity.
As for the switches, I know a lot of guys use a switch for the ignition because that's what they are used to doing, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, I spoke with Ed Alt (who makes all the tech aero stuff) and he told me there is no need to use a switch with the IBEC. The IBEC is the switch. It saves weight, but more importantly in my opinion, it's one less thing to fail (unless you use a switch that fails in the ON position). The tech aero IBEC is probably more reliable than most switches on the market. If you have something as crazy as a radio failure and you can't kill the engine, if you kill the Rx via a switch on the plane, it's the same result as killing the ignition with a switch on the plane. So, why make it more complicated when you don't need to? Just my opinion. I like simplicity.
When I said control the ignition with a switch, I didn't mean to imply a separate switch on the aircraft. I meant a switch on the transmitter for what ever channel it's plugged into. Just make sure it's not one that can be accidentally bumped when flying.
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Perfect. The tech aero IBEC is a must in my opinion, and your servos are perfect as well. Metal gears are a must on gas planes.
As for the switches, I know a lot of guys use a switch for the ignition because that's what they are used to doing, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, I spoke with Ed Alt (who makes all the tech aero stuff) and he told me there is no need to use a switch with the IBEC. The IBEC is the switch. It saves weight, but more importantly in my opinion, it's one less thing to fail (unless you use a switch that fails in the ON position). The tech aero IBEC is probably more reliable than most switches on the market. If you have something as crazy as a radio failure and you can't kill the engine, if you kill the Rx via a switch on the plane, it's the same result as killing the ignition with a switch on the plane. So, why make it more complicated when you don't need to? Just my opinion. I like simplicity.
As for the switches, I know a lot of guys use a switch for the ignition because that's what they are used to doing, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, I spoke with Ed Alt (who makes all the tech aero stuff) and he told me there is no need to use a switch with the IBEC. The IBEC is the switch. It saves weight, but more importantly in my opinion, it's one less thing to fail (unless you use a switch that fails in the ON position). The tech aero IBEC is probably more reliable than most switches on the market. If you have something as crazy as a radio failure and you can't kill the engine, if you kill the Rx via a switch on the plane, it's the same result as killing the ignition with a switch on the plane. So, why make it more complicated when you don't need to? Just my opinion. I like simplicity.