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Old 10-20-2009, 02:46 AM
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Guys,

have you seen this bird ?

http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk...d.asp?id=28998
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:28 AM
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What would that be in dollars?
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:11 PM
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Default RE: Seagull PC-9 120 size...

looks like a great model wish they offered it here in the US. I wonder if it has retracts?

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Old 10-21-2009, 04:49 PM
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Hi,

I am looking at this model also. It is available in Australia for $399 . This includes the mechanical ( metal ) retracts. As you can see, it is finished in the RAAF aerobatic team colours, the Roulettes.

There are a coulpe of issues that I am looking at. In your Sussex Model Centre data, it states that it requires a 120 2stroke or 160 4 stroke. Now if the model comes out at 11 or 12 lbs. ( as stated in the above data ) then surely a 120 4 stroke would be adequate. I am flying a 15lb. 72" Spitfire with a 120 and it's fine . Any thoughts on this ?

Another issue is the size of the pilots. ! Too big. Easy to fix but a shame that they didn't get it right.

I don't suppose anyone has any 3 views of the PC9 ?? I've had a quick search but nothing so far .

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Default RE: Seagull PC-9 120 size...

Hey,

This model looks great! There is fairly limited information on it so far. If anyone gets their hands on it, I would love to see some images of the finer details. Looks much better in terms of scale than the 40 size.

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Old 11-07-2009, 02:27 AM
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I have searched extensively both on RCU and RCGroups and haven't found anything yet,

for my surprise of course,
because IMO it looks awsome.....[]
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:02 AM
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Hehe, no arguments here, it does look amazing. From what I can gather though its only been out a few months, so hopefully in a few weeks info will start to pop up. In the meantime though, I found a few more images here:
[link]http://www.modelisme-vartex.com/catalog/images/144044-450.gif[/link]

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Old 11-20-2009, 09:34 PM
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hay all, have just picked up the pc9 120 size, looks good and cant wait to get her up. the 46 size was great to fly but notice that the quality has dipped a little, eg the fuel tank housing needs to be dremeled out to fit. and you even have to put the stickers on yourself now. If you want pics and a copy of the mauanl go to www.seagullmodels.com and you download all the specs from there. enjoy. regards tony
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Matt - I have one, nearly finished , ready to fly , with RCFG 20cc engine...yes it has retracts - they are a bit troublesome to set up - but I have sorted them ..already burnt out one wing RT servo on them .
Nice model , well made , mine will be a bit over 12lbs RTF ....came out very nose heavy . Batts have to go in the rear ( compartment is provided ) but will still need lead in the back

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Old 01-21-2010, 12:10 PM
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Looking fwd to getting a flight report! [8D]
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:23 PM
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Merlin Man,
Just thought I'd chime in and say that I saw this model and the CM Pro offering fly extensively at Shep M.S. last year, being demo'd by the Model Engines crew. They were both powered by OS 200 FS and went very well. I would say they flew at scale like speeds for the aircraft type. My opinion after seeing this would be that a 120FS (also fly an ESM Spitfire with an OS120SIII) would be ok but not ideal. They were running quite coarse APC props as well (from memory about 12 inch pitch). I spoke to one of the pilots about the two aircraft and he said each had their pro's and con's. The seagul was lighter than the CM Pro being all built up and had a lower wing loading but no flaps. He said the mechanical gear was ok. The CM Pro offering is a fibreglass moulded fuselage with panel lines, flaps and air retracts but a much higer price and a heavier model. Hope this helps,
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Any pictures ?

Looks awsome !
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here is a pic of mine before the test flight
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You need to upload the pic again!
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2nd try
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Mine has an RCGF 20cc , weighs 12.5lbs ,with 7oz lead in the tail - I feel its too heavy ...it struggled into the air, but was on a 16 x 6 prop which is suggested for that engine- I will try a larger pitch next time , and if I am not happy I am changing it to electric, which will drop the weight by about 1.5 lbs.
It would help if it had flaps too....but not at less than 12lbs I think.
It was a stable flyer in the air, but had a motor cut just on approach and subsequently a heavy nose down landing - no elevator response at that airspeed, with no motor running ....it broke the front retract so now I have to find a replacement . Model Engines in AU wholesale these I believe, but their web site is off line - anyone know what is going on there ?
Also did some minor damage to the fuselage and one wing but easily repaired .
Any of you Ozzy guys have access to Seagull parts from them ?
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Mine has an RCGF 20cc , weighs 12.5lbs ,with 7oz lead in the tail - I feel its too heavy ...it struggled into the air, but was on a 16 x 6 prop which is suggested for that engine- I will try a larger pitch next time , and if I am not happy I am changing it to electric, which will drop the weight by about 1.5 lbs.
It would help if it had flaps too....but not at less than 12lbs I think.
It was a stable flyer in the air, but had a motor cut just on approach and subsequently a heavy nose down landing - no elevator response at that airspeed, with no motor running ....it broke the front retract so now I have to find a replacement . Model Engines in AU wholesale these I believe, but their web site is off line - anyone know what is going on there ?
Also did some minor damage to the fuselage and one wing but easily repaired .
Any of you Ozzy guys have access to Seagull parts from them ?

Could you please post more pictures both from the airplane and from the damage ?

What do you have to say about the quality of retracts ?
Good / Bad ?

I think that if you have went with a 120AX or with a 160FX, personal choice, it would have been lighter and more powerful!
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Lookin good Grant, can't wait to see more.

As for model engines, the site was down before (dunno why) but seems to be fine now.
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hi guys

i prefer to used a saito 180 four strok will be fit and u will get much speed don`t use a os 200 FS its a junk engine i used before on my pitts cermak 120 size the muffler geting out every time the saito 180 will be good choise ..... and thanks for wvwr one
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HI AGAIN

im also recommended a jr digital servo like ds 599 or ds 559 metal gear will be good for elevator and aliron and the plane give you the right manuvers in air

thanks to ever one and i will post in next days the final pic for my seagull pc-9
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hi guys

i prefer to used a saito 180 four strok will be fit and u will get much speed don`t use a os 200 FS its a junk engine i used before on my pitts cermak 120 size the muffler geting out every time the saito 180 will be good choise ..... and thanks for wvwr one

JUNK engine an OS 200FS...?[:-]
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hi again

yes its a junk engine the allways study will when thay prodection any engine but this engine thay made it fast its light but junk in all if talk about powerfull engine use a ys engine its powerfull engine and fast but price will kill you u know its expinseve engine soo when i choose saito its more powerfull in torque and speed soo Do not be surprised when i say a junk engine because me and other friend in kuwait wee used engine many time.. in heat weather and cold weather all of them same proplem the muffler geting out and the power become less after 3 Minutes in air soo after me report u can say its a junk engine [>:]

i don`t whana be any one fall in same mistake Believe me use a saito and u not will be loss and it will come a fit in this airplane
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ORIGINAL: Kostas1


ORIGINAL: khalid557

hi guys

i prefer to used a saito 180 four strok will be fit and u will get much speed don`t use a os 200 FS its a junk engine i used before on my pitts cermak 120 size the muffler geting out every time the saito 180 will be good choise ..... and thanks for wvwr one

JUNK engine an OS 200FS...?[:-]

Yep
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:14 AM
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Default RE: Seagull PC-9 120 size...

Maybe then you have to start a new thread on the glow engines forum and see what else people have to say.

Personally i don't believe it's a junk engine.

Ofcourse it's low on power in comparison with a YS 160DZ and ofcourse heavier than a Saito !

Power falling down had to do with your fuel,fuel setup and overheating.
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Hey, i have this plane...a complete bargain & perfect precision built!...the retracts are very good , but i believe that seagull revised them in newer kits...eg, scale oleo & sprung!.
I'm running futaba radio & a Laser 150...this plane flies scale & looks stunning in the air against a blue sky!.
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