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Old 10-28-2009, 06:53 PM
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Default Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

Hi All;

Just finish the build on the Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51
I must say it was a sweet build!!!
I am looking for any flight info on this bird!! Pro and Con info is welcome.
In the nose for power is a Magnum 1.20 XL 4 stroke.

Thank you all for your info.
I did upload the pictures, but it was to big!! Sorry!!
Thank you all, again!!!

Sonny
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Huge pictures!!!!!
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Let's see if this work!!!

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I plan to maiden mine later this morning. I'll post afterward
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Minnflyer- be careful ay low speeds - there are reports of tip stalling with this plane.

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Oh, hell, Mike, I didn't realize it was you.

Yeah, my Top Flite 1/7 P-51 (GE kit) tip stalled itself right into the ground. Combination of too heavy (12 pounds) and Top Flite's recommended CG, which I think is on the extreme side. (Almost 40%)

I went into a split ess with plenty of altitude and airspeed, rolled inverted, pulled some stick, and it went nose down and stayed there all the way to the ground, rolling right as it went. Full throttle wouldn't make it straighten out and get controllable. Some kind of deep stall resulting in an unrecoverable spin. Other than that it was a great flyer with a 120 AX. A bit touchy on takeoff, but what P-51 isn't?

I don't know off hand what H9 recommends for a CG, but I'd be tempted to bump it forward by a half an inch.

I'll be real interested in hearing your assessment of this bird. I had sworn off P-51s altogether, but a good flyer could make me change my mind.
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Bob,

The manual say the CG should be at 124mm or 4.7/8", but they do give a CG range of 4.5/8 to 5" ( 117mm to 127mm). Right now my CG is at 4.5/8. The weight for this bird as per the manual is 9.5 10 10lbs. My weight is 11.8lbs because I have the onboard glow system with a spare battery just to power it. The control throws I think are a bit to much!!
This is what the manual call for:
Aileron High Rate UP/DOWN 35mm or 18 degrees
Aileron Low Rate UP/DOWN 20mm or 13 degrees
Elevator High Rate UP/DOWN 32mm or 15 degrees
Elevator Low Rate UP/Down 27mm or 12 degrees
Rudder High Rate Right/Left 32mm or 15 degrees
Rudder Low Rate Right/Left 20mm or 13 degrees
Flaps Positions UP Aligned with wing trailing edge
MID 44mm or 22 degrees
Down 80mm or 43 degrees

I can not wait to hear Mike B report on his first flight!!!
Like your self, I do love the P-51, but as you have post, that can be a hand full to fly.

Sonny
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Yeah, they really are. I'm gonna build a P-39 next time.
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Oh, hell, Mike, I didn't realize it was you.

Yeah, my Top Flite 1/7 P-51 (GE kit) tip stalled itself right into the ground. Combination of too heavy (12 pounds) and Top Flite's recommended CG, which I think is on the extreme side. (Almost 40%)

I went into a split ess with plenty of altitude and airspeed, rolled inverted, pulled some stick, and it went nose down and stayed there all the way to the ground, rolling right as it went. Full throttle wouldn't make it straighten out and get controllable. Some kind of deep stall resulting in an unrecoverable spin. Other than that it was a great flyer with a 120 AX. A bit touchy on takeoff, but what P-51 isn't?

I don't know off hand what H9 recommends for a CG, but I'd be tempted to bump it forward by a half an inch.

I'll be real interested in hearing your assessment of this bird. I had sworn off P-51s altogether, but a good flyer could make me change my mind.

Sorry to hear about your Top Flite GE crash. Mine didn't do this but it was about 3 lb lighter as I recall (don't have it anymore- sold it a few years ago).
I don't remember where I had the CG, but it was where Top Flite said to put it though. But mine was an old kit from the early days of the GE kits.

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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

Well, the verdict is in - It's a keeper!

Unlike many of Horizon's P-51s, this one is NOT a sport plane that LOOKS like a P-51.

It feels heavy like a warbird should.

I like!
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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

Mike B,

Thanks for the info!!!
One question?? Did you have the CG as per the manual and what engine you had for power???
Thanks again for your answer!!!

Sonny
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Yes, CG set as per the manual and using a Saito 125 with a 15x8 prop
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Mike B;

Thanks again for the info!!!!

Sonny
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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

Mike:

I'm glad it went well for you.

Did you get a chance to weigh it?
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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

minnflyer, you said it flys heavy Like a warbird. Does that mean it is not recommended for a first warbird, like the other hanger 9 warbirds? Just wondering.
Old 11-06-2009, 09:55 AM
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ORIGINAL: Mustang Fever

Did you get a chance to weigh it?
No, but I would put it in the 9 1/2 pound range.

ORIGINAL: Prop_Wash

minnflyer, you said it flys heavy Like a warbird. Does that mean it is not recommended for a first warbird, like the other hanger 9 warbirds? Just wondering.
Hard to say - If you are experienced with planes that have a heavy wing loading, it wouldn't be a problem. But this is the first H-9 warbird that I have flown that flies like a true warbird - as opposed to their earlier offerings which flew like sport planes disguised as warbirds.

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Thanks Minnflyer! I will have to think about this. I have only flown warbirds on the G-2 simulator.
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In the air, you will find very little difference. About the only place you need to watch is on landing. A plane with a heavy wing loading will not "Float" and if allowed to get too slow, it will stall.

Just keep your speed up a little and "Fly it to the ground"

After a few attempts, you'll quickly get the feel for what is too fast and what is too slow.
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Thanks MinnFlyer! I think I am going to go for it.
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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

Mike:

That sounds a bunch better than 12 pounds.
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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

need a flite report more info how do thay fly
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Default RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF

It flies very well. Up until now, H-9 warbirds fly like sport planes. This one has much more of a warbird "feel" to it.

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