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Old 03-06-2010, 09:31 AM
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has any one flown the 50cc size black horse corsair yet? any pictures available yet? if so can someone give me the size of the engine mount bulkhead.
will a sc 5 cylinder radial fit or will it be to heavy?
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Old 03-06-2010, 01:44 PM
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Got this info on line. I'd have to sell my house or the 5 other NIB ARF's I have. I think I'll go over-eat donuts.

Charles


"The world of 1/5th scale warbirds has suddenly become very affordable with the launch of the new, big, Black Horse Corsair. At 90 inch span this is a serious size model, but by careful use of laser cut, balsa and ply components, weight has been kept down to an amazing 18 1/2lbs. This low weight allows the use of affordable 50cc engines that are becoming so popular now. Fit a 62cc engine an you have real performance in the vertical.

The outline has been kept as close to scale as possible to keep the classic look 'all Corsair' as she grooves around the sky in a manner that only big models like this can. Black Horse made sure that the gull wing angle was correct as the easy option was never a consideration.

Not only are the multi-section flaps true to the original, there are air operated, twist and turn retracts included complete with functioning oleo legs. These are items that are nearly always a major additional cost in many models of this size, not so with Black Horse, they're there as standard!!

For easy of transpotation, the individual wing sides can be easily removed.

The whole model is clothed in duarble Oracover covering, so she will retain her looks for many years to come. The use of Oracover means that damaged covering is easily and exactly matched by a visit to your local model shop.

Flying is so predictable and easy that you could even make her your first warbird. The stall is benign and she handles predictably and stabiliy at all speeds.

Specification

Wingspan: 2310mm (90.04in)
Length: 1750mm (68.90in)
Weight: 8.4kg (18.52lbs)
Servos: 9 Servos (8kg min on elevator/aileron)
Radio System: 6/7 Channel
IC Engine: 50 -62cc Petrol

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Old 03-06-2010, 02:11 PM
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shoot its not even listed on the site
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:27 AM
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They build this big bird and put the smallest wheels they could find on it? They make the whole plane look goofy. And is 18 lbs safe for a 50/60cc size warbird? Sound like its a bit thin in some areas. Or is that the weight without the motor? I do not have one so I am just asking, not trying to be slamin' the company. Just an area I might think about. I would love to have a owner tell me that they think it's a solid build. A 90in corsair is a good thing to have.
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:05 PM
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When will these arf manufacturers put the correct size wheels on these planes? dum dums
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:35 PM
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had there models before and they are well built but i know the wheels look rubbish
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:05 AM
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The side wings remove???
Nice.....
You can leave the main middle wing on??
THis sounds better than the soon comming ESM 50cc Corsair...

This 7-cy 70cc radial will be going in one of them
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:09 AM
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Built it, flown it, love it!!

It sure is light for a 1/5th warbird, but that means it doesn't 'bite' and the landing becomes so easy it's flattering. My 50cc DA copy is more than enough power but I had to strap just over a kilo (2.25lbs) of lead on the engine box to get the CG right. Not sure I would want a 62cc on the front, other than for the extra weight. I was nervous of the rotating retracts supplied, but they have worked flawlessly so far. Mine still slam up and down, but I will fiddle with the restrictor valve soon and see what I can do with that. The doors are cool!

You have to open the engine up slowly to get a decent scale takeoff, as full power will have her off in 10 yards/metres! Actually no real problem as the rudder is effective and progressive. I don't like the glued on tailwheel assembly, but its stayed on so far (about 10 flights).

I ditched the standard tank and used a 20oz Sullivan hard tank with gas fittings. The standard tank looked like it had a silicon bung. Bit of a tight squeeeze but it went in.

Hope they do more in this 1/5th series!
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I hope they bring it to the U.S. I happen to have a g62 ready for some project like this.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:54 AM
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tiffie can you post some pictures please do the wheels look as bad as people are saying
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Default RE: has anyone flown the new 50cc size black horse corsair

The wheels are no big deal... Just replace with a pair that you want...
Hardware in ARF's can be replaced quite easilly....
It is the plane and the quality of the structure that really matters....
As long as the plane is solid, and flys great, than no issues....

If the wheel wells are too small (when they retract into the wing), then that is a bit of a pain, but can be overcome
with a little cutting and recovering...

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ORIGINAL: bluescoobydoo

tiffie can you post some pictures please do the wheels look as bad as people are saying
I'll see what i can do. I not very good at picture posting so will have to get my son to show me! I don't think the wheels are too bad for size, I think the legs are a little short. Maybe 1/2" bigger wheels would be good but not much more. The problem then would be the retract wheel wells being too small.

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It s good to hear that the plane is buit well. The only thought I had about the wheel size is that off a grass strip, small wheels are a bother. Yes, bigger wheels can be added, and the wells cut to get them to fit. I just think its funny that a LOT of ARFs have small wheels. A cost thing? ANYWAY.....glad that its a good plane for you.
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Help me out, fellows.  I don't see this on the Black Horse website.  How can I find this beauty?

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I had tried to type before and it went bizzerk....

Very true about the wheel deal....

I think that BH would be a much more popular manufacture if they actually
had a decent web page, and would come to forums and talk about there products...
It is how I would run the business if I owned it....

No info on there webpage...hardly any.....

Also, although hobby people is a great Hobby store, they tend to sell out and discontinue things quite quickly....
I think that they have a constant battle with paying bills and just staying afloat....
It isn't easy having a hobby store like theirs, and being successfull....

I guess you have to have a niche...

ESM, although do not showcase products directly, there distributers take a VERY active ROLE in
the market fiel.....KMP takes the ESM products and makes them even better...Even has there own molds that ESM
will use to make planes for them....even though the same model is used the fuse may be very different between the two...

I have a feeling that the ESM/KMP 50cc Corsair will be a much more popular unit, just due to it's active dealers going out and showing
current and future products....and they have some VERY nice products out, and comming....
THere manuals, thought are less than stellar....
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Some unwrapping pictures, but text is in swedish... You can watch the pictures anyway!

http://www.rcflyg.se/forum/showthread.php?t=27521
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Here's mine and it's getting closer to it's first flight. I chose to try the Seidel 7-70 Radial in this plane because it actually is quite light for a model this size. The extra weight difference between a G-62 and this engine allows me to get the C/G balanced without adding weight. Battery placement is all that was needed to get it dialed in
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I forgot to mention that I bought a set of Robart scale wheels the same size, 3-3/4" and they look a lot better. The rim diameter is larger and makes the whole wheel appear larger. The wheels in the kit are pretty cheap. When I get some nice weather I'll take a couple pics so you can see the difference.
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Wow, that Seidel looks soooooooo good in there!

Good luck on your maiden. Hopefully someone will be videotaping it.
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Heres my dads one when I flew it last week. Good Fun. :P
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Are the decals already applied from the manufacture when it comes out of the box?
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It might be my 45 year old eyes but is the frontal view "stand-off-scale"? Something is not quite right (??).

Just an observation...good looking ARF though.
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Awood Thanks so much for the pics!! Great camera work!! Great flyin too! I can hardly wait. One question. Is the balance point pretty close to where the book says to put it?
RCShadow; The frontal view,, I think you are speaking of the one pic from Awood. It looks like the bends in the inverted gull are quite sharp. Trust me it's not. I think its the way the bright sun light cast across the upper surface. Like I said before this is not a Precision scale ARF and I think every plane can be picked apart in one way or another. I think Awood's plane looks GREAT!! I hope mine does too.
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Hi HellCat You have to put the decals on your self. I haven't done that yet. I hope I don't goof em up!!
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How are those retracts working out with the arf
(THe ones that came with it)?

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