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smkrcflyer 10-01-2012 08:17 AM

ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88"
 
Does anyone have the ECOMRC Wedell-Williams 88 inch wing plane? I was wondering how it is and what engine your using?

http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items...LLW-88AAF.html

Mikes145 10-05-2012 06:20 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
I have the BH Gilmore Lion with a DL-50 in it. 84" wingspan, on sale for $399. Not sure how it compares to ECOMRC.
www.hobbypeople.net/index.php/gilmore-red-lion-wedell-williams-arf-45-50cc.html

smkrcflyer 10-05-2012 08:04 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
I like this one also and cost a lot less, thanks.

opjose 10-05-2012 08:33 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 

Quote:

ORIGINAL: Mikes145

I have the BH Gilmore Lion with a DL-50 in it. 84'' wingspan, on sale for $399. Not sure how it compares to ECOMRC.
http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...f-45-50cc.html
How do you like it?

I was going to put in the same engine on mine once it arrives.

Did you do anything with the wheels?

How about guy wires?

Mikes145 10-05-2012 10:16 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Mine doesn't have wires. The landing gear is pretty weak and I broke the pants on a less than perfect landing. I just bent a piece of aluminum to add to the strut and may just keep it that way. I'm going to add some larger wheels with aluminum hubs to dress it up a bit. Otherwise, the plane flies good. I actually added a little nose weight even with the DL 50. I'm trying to add a couple photos from our recent giant scale show.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...onrcplane2.jpg

Mikes145 10-05-2012 10:17 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...onrcplane4.jpg

opjose 10-05-2012 11:55 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Yeah, I was thinking of adding a couple of supporting thick piano wires to the existing strut to make them look like big guy wires.

That will help re-inforce the gear from side to side, but I don't have a clue as to what to do yet about front to back bracing.


I'd imagine it would not be too difficult to fabricate new pants for your plane out of some other giant scale plane wheel pants.

Stock fiberglass wheel covers can be cut with a dremel from the top. The strut cover could be added via plastic sheeting or formed from fiberglass cloth.


Yours doesn't look bad as is though.

Any pictures of what you did to the gear to beef it up?

Thanks.




Reverend 06-16-2013 11:47 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Hey guys,

fwiw, heres a clip of the 88" Wedell that was mentioned in the first post.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQKrNmRDeAU[/youtube]

Rev

resolars 06-17-2013 11:34 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Hi, thank you for the video,

I´m interested in exactly that plane, but I only found vids from the Black Horse Model.
What about the flying wight of your plane? The manual says 8600 g.
Is the ASP powerfull enought for a airracer?
My idee is to use a saito fa 450R3. (i´m loking for one )
Both engines have nearly the same power, but the saito is 300 g heavier.
So I am not sure.

Greetings from Germany
Lars<br type="_moz" />

Reverend 06-18-2013 01:01 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Hi Lars,

thats the main reason I made the video. Theres 3.459 Videos of the Black Horse Gilmore and none of the EcomRC although it is miles better. Expecially the gear is very robust and the outlines come a lot closer to the original.

my plane ended up with 10,6kg and I needed no lead. The Batteries (3S1800 Reciever and 1S4000 Glow) are as far back on the servomount as possible. The FS400AR is adequate for flying it but you have to use a 22x10 (6.300 rpm) Prop. I am using the black graupner sonic pro prop and that works well. It has very good vertical power.

I also have a saito 450 lying here that I want to try in the plane. The saito definitely has more power than the fs400. It turns the same 22x10 Graupner Sonic @6950 rpm.

Rev


ARUP 06-18-2013 04:07 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
If you add the bracing wires (rods) to the gear and wings you can have scale functionality and looks!

Reverend 06-18-2013 04:31 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 

Quote:

ORIGINAL: ARUP

If you add the bracing wires (rods) to the gear and wings you can have scale functionality and looks!
Hi Arup,

they are there but too thin to see.

Rev

resolars 06-18-2013 11:35 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Hi Reverend,

thank you for the quick answer. It helps a lot in my decidion for the next plan and engine!
Do you know abaot this event?
I will be there to see some nice planes :-)
<a href="http://www.heilemann-sternmotoren.de/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id= 210&amp;Itemid=1">http://www.heilemann-sternmotoren.de...0&amp;Itemid=1


Greetings Lars<br type="_moz" /></a>

Reverend 06-18-2013 01:40 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
hi lars,

i am on holiday on that date. i will be taking the wedell williams to oberhausen on the 06. july though but thats a long drive for you..

rev

f16-pit 06-18-2013 01:44 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Moin Lars,<div>Seems you are geting kind of serious with the Wedell-Williams...</div><div>The Vid however shows a great performer (the pilot too), and if you have some more space to land, then  this flight-deck shown on the vid, there will be no trouble.</div><div>Nice sound too.</div><div>Go for it, </div><div>hope to see you on the field this year together with this racer!</div><div>
</div><div>Peter</div>

Reverend 06-18-2013 11:40 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Hey Peter,

thanks for the flowers :)

You are right, a bit of a larger flight deck would be great. We do practice carrier landings on our field :D

@Lars: The Kit is brilliant. It is way superior to the Black Horse Model. I am reviewing the Plane for the "Modell" so if you wait for a couple of Months you can read the whole review in one of the coming issues.

Grüßle aus Tirol,
Rev


resolars 06-19-2013 08:59 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Hi Rev,looking forward for your review.Gruß aus dem Norden

Tailspin 06-21-2013 08:22 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Reverend,
Do you think the Evolution 77cc Radial engine would work in the plane you have? The cowl certainly looks large enough. I think it might be a good combination.

Steve

Reverend 06-22-2013 11:07 AM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
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Steve,

I have the Evo and the Saito 450 at home as well and dry fitted both. The cowl clears both easily. The Saito will fit on the stock firewall. The 400 and the 777 need custom standoffs because the firewall itself is quite small (smaller than the stock motormount) and recessed.

Looks somewhat like this

Tailspin 06-22-2013 07:17 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Thanks Reverend!
With a little woodworking it definitely looks do-able. I think I'll order the Evo next week before my 15% off code expires and wait awhile on the plane to see if it goes on sale :D Are you listening Troy Built? ;)

Steve

Feuerwehr 07-05-2013 02:06 PM

RE: ECOMRC Wedell-Williams Model 44 Racer 88
 
Troybuilt has a 10% off sale through July 8th. I broke down and placed an order for the Gilmore after obtaining permission from the boss.

mike boxtall 06-25-2014 02:28 PM

I am contemplating buying this plane. I've been thinking about a DLE 120. It weighs less than the asp and the fg84. The cowl is wide enough to accommodate. Thoughts?

opjose 06-25-2014 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike boxtall (Post 11829894)
I am contemplating buying this plane. I've been thinking about a DLE 120. It weighs less than the asp and the fg84. The cowl is wide enough to accommodate. Thoughts?

The 88" Gilmore is a 50cc plane. A 120cc engine is too much for it.

mike boxtall 06-26-2014 07:02 AM

Just curious. All you guys using the DLE 55's, how much weight in the nose are you using to balance it properly?

opjose 06-26-2014 08:21 AM

I added about 8oz ( a whole container ) of "Liquid metal" from Deluxe Materials, which is basically tiny lead shot, to the extreme front of the cowl.

The lead shot mixed with epoxy greatly strengthened the cowl. I also re-inforced it with more fiberglass and added gromets, etc. for anti-vibration and adecuate support.

I'm using three very light LiFe packs to power the plane, two 2000's for the electronics and one for the ignition. They are mounted at the top front of the fuselage just in front of the removable canopy assembly.

This worked out perfectly without the need to add an undue amount of weight.


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