G Force 3S 1800mA Life Tx battery
I have a G- Force 1800 3s 9.9v Tx Life battery that I plan on using as a replacement in my Futaba 8UAF Tx. but have a couple of questions.
1) What voltage should I consider as the safe cut off point in the Tx. 2) In it's discharge cycle mode my Turnigy Max 8 charger has a fixed discharge voltage of 2.0 v per cell, is this okay. |
Hi Karolh,
I am not sure of the answer to your first question but would like to know also as I want to put a 3S Life in my Futaba T7C. Perhaps you should reask your question in the Futaba Direct Support Forum. The answer to your second question I believe is no, that is not ok. I have two chargers, but essentially the same, a Venom and a Hitech X1, and they also have a fixed discharge cutoff of 2v per cell for Life batteries. I believe the Life manufactures say do not discharge below 2.5v per cell. I have discharged my 2S Lifes and on a couple of occasions I got a "low Cell" warning doing that and 1 cell was down to 1.49v, and thats too low. That could damage a cell. You need to catch it when it gets down to 2.5v per cell, 5v for a 2S and 7.5v for a 3S, just to be safe. What you could do is discharge your 3S life until it gets down to the 2.5v per cell and reinstall it on your radio and see what your display voltage says. Maybe that will give you an idea. Obviously you don't want to drain your transmitter battery down that low while flying but you might get some useful info anyways and perhaps a rule of thumb to go by. I hope that helps. |
I had called Radio South to check with Tony Stillman but he was out of office, however I plan on calling back to hopefully get an answer to my first question, which I will share with you. Your suggestion of discharging the pack down to 2.5 v per cell and seeing what the display voltage in the Tx reads is a good idea, but I am thinking of using 3v per cell instead, as I recently read an article on Life batteries which suggests that at 3.0 v the cells are very close to dead.
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3v sounds reasonable. But I believe there is still charge remaining at that point, perhaps not much. When cycling them to check capacity I would go all the way to 2.5v per cell.
I would imagine that a fully charged 3S will probably read 10.0v or 10.1v and stay there for awhile, maybe quite awhile. So if you see 9.9v on your display you may ought to land. Lol. Let me know how it all works for you as I am very interested as well. |
Just off the charger a Life battery should read 3.6v per cell but will quite quickly stabilize to around 3.4v or thereabouts. I just did a search on this forum which turned up some very informative info on these batteries, and is seems that a safe cut off point is anywhere from 9.8 - 9.6v for a 3S.
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Thanks for the info. I bet, depending on how often you fly, it could take 2 months to get down to 9.6. Thats what I'm talking about. Lol.
Is your battery compartment shape that of a typical 8cell nicad? I was just wondering if your battery just drops right in there. |
My G- Force 3S 1800 Life battery is pretty much the same size of a std. 8 cell Nicad Tx pack but just a tad shorter so it fits quite nicely in the battery compartment of my Futaba 8UAF.
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I have the 8U and the 7C both are 2.4 and both battery compartments are the same size So will the 3c life bat's be good replace ments for the current nimh's ? and i asume you have to take the bats out to charge.
a real newbe to the new battery types Thanks for your responce Cheers Bob T |
Originally Posted by rt3232
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I have the 8U and the 7C both are 2.4 and both battery compartments are the same size So will the 3c life bat's be good replace ments for the current nimh's ? and i asume you have to take the bats out to charge.
a real newbe to the new battery types Thanks for your responce Cheers Bob T |
First Thanks for the reply
Ok next Question I have Triton EQ and 2EQ so will I need a different charger ? Like I said I am a newbee to this new stuff. with the minimal voltage drop I am currently getting on my Trx Batteries I am sure they will last this flying season, so planning on changing late in the year, Again Thanks for your replies Cheers Bob T |
Those are two excellent chargers both of which are designed to charge / discharge / cycle several different battery types including Life batteries.
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Karolh
After I made the post went back to the shop as it dawned on me that I had read in the instructions some thing about the life bat's So all is well, and I think I now have it stright in this old brain. Thanks for your quick reply cheers Bob T |
No prob, glad to be of help :cool:
Karol |
New question with new lopo's should they be cycled or just charged before using ? Have heard different stories from a a coupla of our club sparkies,
Cheers Bob T |
Unlike Nicads and Nimh batteries new Lipos don't need to be cycled, just balance charge them and use.
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Karolh
Thanks again for the quick reply that is kind what I have figured out for my self but just thought I would ask, as you know there seams to be a lot of mis/controversy info about lipo's out there. Cheers Bob T |
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