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i think the avistar is the best trainer... i have a 40LA on mine and can do alot of aerobatics if i want... with the semi-symetrical wing it will give you the skills to progress to that second plane... manuvers that can be done with the avistar and the 40LA
inside and outside loops....
rolls
cubans
hammerheads
inverted flight
inverted flight to outside loop
tail slides
im sure there are more but those are the ones i do with it...
inside and outside loops....
rolls
cubans
hammerheads
inverted flight
inverted flight to outside loop
tail slides
im sure there are more but those are the ones i do with it...
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My vote goes to the Midwest Aero-Star. It's what I built, so I can't really recommend anything else. It flies very well, actually looks good for a trainer, and builds rather easily (kit).
It won't do all aerobatics, but using the elevator and rudder you can do some really great rolls, and it will fly inverted for extended periods of time (I've been practicing figure eights while inverted).
I've heard it flies pretty fast for a trainer, but not having flown anything else, I can't compare it to anything.
I'd definately recommend building this kit to a beginner.
It won't do all aerobatics, but using the elevator and rudder you can do some really great rolls, and it will fly inverted for extended periods of time (I've been practicing figure eights while inverted).
I've heard it flies pretty fast for a trainer, but not having flown anything else, I can't compare it to anything.
I'd definately recommend building this kit to a beginner.
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there all about the same !!!!
ALL trianers are about the same,what it comes down to is personnel choice and most often what a person learned to fly on when they say one is better than the other.
all trainers are built to be stable slow flyers to give the newbie time to react and learn so i say go with what you like and have fun learning to fly it .
bassman
all trainers are built to be stable slow flyers to give the newbie time to react and learn so i say go with what you like and have fun learning to fly it .
bassman
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SIG LT40 hands down. Builds quickly, sturdy. Flys slower than every thing mentioned so far. and if you don't have the time the arf costs the same as the finished kit.
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I second what Bassman has said. Three years ago when I started the "in" trainer was a SIG LT-40. At the time I was building a Lanier ST-40 trainer. Because of all the hype on the internet I purchased the LT-40. The Lanier still isn't finished.
The LT-40 is a great trainer. However, after I got more experienced and saw what other people were training with, I found out that their trainers were great flyers also. These include an Avistar, Hobbico Superstar 40, Tower PT40, Tower MKII. A trainer is designed to be stable and I haven't seen one yet that doesn't fly well.
The LT40's advantage is that it is bigger than the others, easier to see.
Buy what you want. None are that much superior.
My 2 cents,
John
The LT-40 is a great trainer. However, after I got more experienced and saw what other people were training with, I found out that their trainers were great flyers also. These include an Avistar, Hobbico Superstar 40, Tower PT40, Tower MKII. A trainer is designed to be stable and I haven't seen one yet that doesn't fly well.
The LT40's advantage is that it is bigger than the others, easier to see.
Buy what you want. None are that much superior.
My 2 cents,
John
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the sig kadet LT-40 and the tiger trainer 40( as a tail dragger it lookes like a cessna 170) those 2 hands down paired with a TT.46 are the only trainers i next to the H9 alpha i tell people to get
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I love my Sig LT-40. It was a great build (mine was a kit) and is such a gentle flier. With that big 70" wing and extremely light wing loading you won't believe how that thing floats!
The biggest mistake I made with my plane was putting the O.S. 46LA engine in it. That 60 size wing and fuselage generate a lot of drag, and the 46LA doesn't provide much power to spare. It'll cruise around the sky flying pattern, and will loop if I give it a bit of a diving start, but there's not much power to spare beyond that. With this engine it's a great trainer (it's so slow and gentle, a real ***** cat) but without a bit of extra power there I'm outgrowing it faster than I thought I would.
Having said that, I've got an O.S. 61fx sitting on my workbench which WAS waiting for my next kit (undecided at the moment... either a Sig 4*60 or a Goldberg Tiger 60.) That engine's just calling to me at the moment, and I DID build the LT-40 with a lot of extra reinforcement on the firewall and the wing
Neil.
The biggest mistake I made with my plane was putting the O.S. 46LA engine in it. That 60 size wing and fuselage generate a lot of drag, and the 46LA doesn't provide much power to spare. It'll cruise around the sky flying pattern, and will loop if I give it a bit of a diving start, but there's not much power to spare beyond that. With this engine it's a great trainer (it's so slow and gentle, a real ***** cat) but without a bit of extra power there I'm outgrowing it faster than I thought I would.
Having said that, I've got an O.S. 61fx sitting on my workbench which WAS waiting for my next kit (undecided at the moment... either a Sig 4*60 or a Goldberg Tiger 60.) That engine's just calling to me at the moment, and I DID build the LT-40 with a lot of extra reinforcement on the firewall and the wing
Neil.
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Have trained a lot of folks over the years on Kadet Seniors - 3 channel, build it yourself. You really learn how to "fly on the wing".
Today, with the ARF version of the Senior, I would go with that. A very close second is the Kadet LT-40 - ARF or kit.
Just don't think you can go wrong with either of these.
Take care,
Today, with the ARF version of the Senior, I would go with that. A very close second is the Kadet LT-40 - ARF or kit.
Just don't think you can go wrong with either of these.
Take care,
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Originally posted by Mindwarp
With this engine it's a great trainer (it's so slow and gentle, a real ***** cat) but without a bit of extra power there I'm outgrowing it faster than I thought I would.
With this engine it's a great trainer (it's so slow and gentle, a real ***** cat) but without a bit of extra power there I'm outgrowing it faster than I thought I would.
Dear R/C Universe,
Thank you so much for saving others from having to view such an obviously vile and disgusting post. Am I allowed to call the LT-40 a KITTY cat instead?
For those who have suffered a sense of humour bypass, this post is not criticising R/C Universe (I understand and respect the intent of the profanity filters), more just a poke at automated censorship in general.
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graupner 65 trainer with os .65la.... very awesome airplane flies very slow.. the 65 has more than enough power to do anything you want.. its built way better than the ones i had from the states( yes, my home is in the states). it will handle alot of abuse. except when your junk German radio locks out and it burns in ...... ..... i loved that plane...
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I think most of us (myself included) would tend to pick the trainer that we learned on as our favorite. Mine was a Midwest Aerostar 40 built from a kit.
I still REALLY like that airplane and sometimes throw a radio back in it and fly the heck out of it. That thin will fly upsidedown as long as you want it to, does respectable rolls and stall turns (for a trainer).
I consider mine an "antique" since it was built about 15 years ago and most of the covering is still original!
Having said all that, the Kadet LT40 (or any of the Kadets for that matter) are also right up there with the best.
Phil in MN
I still REALLY like that airplane and sometimes throw a radio back in it and fly the heck out of it. That thin will fly upsidedown as long as you want it to, does respectable rolls and stall turns (for a trainer).
I consider mine an "antique" since it was built about 15 years ago and most of the covering is still original!
Having said all that, the Kadet LT40 (or any of the Kadets for that matter) are also right up there with the best.
Phil in MN