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I did OK with my first build (PT-40) until I destroyed it due to interference. I'm sure that is what everyone says, right? Anyway, I'm building this SSE. I am going to power it with a Saito FA56 and hopefully use a Spectrum 7 for control. Anyone know if Hitec HS322HD servos would be compatible? I'm balking at using my Laser 4 with this machine after what happened last time, also I want to be able to mix in the flaperon feature to slow it down.
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Punched my fat clumsy thumb through the delicate leading edge sheeting while trying to install the 'j' hook used for wing attachment.
Wasted time repairing the hole and did not make it any further. I think I'll just sand my fingertips and go to bed.
Wasted time repairing the hole and did not make it any further. I think I'll just sand my fingertips and go to bed.
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Dumb thumb.[:'(] Good patch.
Dumb thumb.[:'(] Good patch.
I'm going to pick up the DX7 today and I'm pooping my pants with anticipation.
Control surfaces and empennage will be done tonight with any luck.
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I got the DX7. It has a lot more going on than my Laser 4. I paid $319 for the radio, receiver, 4 high torque servos and the switch. Pretty good for a LHS. I can't wait to fly with it.
I made some .032 aluminum doublers for the top and bottom of the pitch horns rather than mess with the glass. I'll put them on after I cover it and I think it will look pretty clean.
I'm going to cover the wing with the ailerons in place like a guy suggested in another thread. Think I'll be using ultracote. Servos fit.
I bought a Dubro tailwheel assembly because I heard the provided one likes to rip off the rudder. I considered making a rudder extension, but I'm not really that great a pilot that I'll need it. Right away at least... I think I'd like to sheet the turtle deck. Sullivan 10 oz tank. After reading about the kind of engines people are putting into the SE, I'm a little concerned the FA56 is going to be weak.
I made some .032 aluminum doublers for the top and bottom of the pitch horns rather than mess with the glass. I'll put them on after I cover it and I think it will look pretty clean.
I'm going to cover the wing with the ailerons in place like a guy suggested in another thread. Think I'll be using ultracote. Servos fit.
I bought a Dubro tailwheel assembly because I heard the provided one likes to rip off the rudder. I considered making a rudder extension, but I'm not really that great a pilot that I'll need it. Right away at least... I think I'd like to sheet the turtle deck. Sullivan 10 oz tank. After reading about the kind of engines people are putting into the SE, I'm a little concerned the FA56 is going to be weak.
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Nice looking build! I built one a few months ago. I did something similar with the sheeting though it was mostly due to oversanding the sheeting and then it took hardly any pressure to break through. Been a hangar queen since - need to get it up in the air.
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For what it's worth, when I built mine, I did NOT sheet the turtledeck. I wish I had. Only from an asthetic perspective, but I really don't like seeing the stringers. Additionally, I believe it will make the covering a bit easier in that area.
Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for sharing!
-MA
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Wow. Thanks for the links. There is a ton of good information in those threads. Anything that makes covering easier I am game to try. Any opinions on the FA56?
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2005916/mpage_1/key_venture/tm.htm]This thing[/link] is amazing. That guy is a craftsman. I'd be happy at the end of my career to be able to approximate that kind of work. It almost seems to be a shame to cover it. It looks so good bare bones. I'd like to see it with retractable gear.
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2005916/mpage_1/key_venture/tm.htm]This thing[/link] is amazing. That guy is a craftsman. I'd be happy at the end of my career to be able to approximate that kind of work. It almost seems to be a shame to cover it. It looks so good bare bones. I'd like to see it with retractable gear.
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The FA56 might not be the best choice for the SSE, but it'll fly fine with the right prop. The plane isn't a speed burner, and flies as well on the wing as the engine.
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RE: 2nd Build-Sig Something Extra
Crasher,
I've got a Saito 72 on my SSE. Don't think I'd like anything smaller.
Just my .03 worth. Great plane anyway, it always goes to the field with me.
I'm sure it will fly with the 56, just don't know how the vertical
would be. Enjoy, Phillip
I've got a Saito 72 on my SSE. Don't think I'd like anything smaller.
Just my .03 worth. Great plane anyway, it always goes to the field with me.
I'm sure it will fly with the 56, just don't know how the vertical
would be. Enjoy, Phillip
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Phillip, I've got the SE on the build pile. I thought the 72 Saito would be the way to go, but some have said the 82 is the way to go. I have neither at this point. What say ye?
Thanks, MikeB
Thanks, MikeB
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Wow.... this thread is custom written for my limited input!!! I built the PT40 last winter and learned to fly this spring. I then got the SSE ARF this summer and have flown it a lot the rest of the season. As a matter of fact, we flew today in 50 degree weather in Indiana on Dec 30th, which is unheard of for this time of year.
For what it's worth, the transition from the PT40 to SSE is straight forward. The plane flies great. Be ready to "fly" the plane. No dihedral, the plane goes where you point it. Also, landings are easy with the thick wing core. Take offs are easier with the SSE as the tricycle gear of the PT40 always needed a little correction.
PLEASE NOTE: the ailerons for the SSE are gigantic compared to the PT40. The first flight of the SSE I had throws set-up as the manual called for and they were WAY too much for me, even on low rates (remember this is my first season flying). I was able to land and then backed them way down and then started to bring them back up a little at a time after several flights. I also fly with a little exponential. Now the plane just grooves for me!
I think both planes are great and would change a thing with my plane history so far!
Here are a couple of pics.
For what it's worth, the transition from the PT40 to SSE is straight forward. The plane flies great. Be ready to "fly" the plane. No dihedral, the plane goes where you point it. Also, landings are easy with the thick wing core. Take offs are easier with the SSE as the tricycle gear of the PT40 always needed a little correction.
PLEASE NOTE: the ailerons for the SSE are gigantic compared to the PT40. The first flight of the SSE I had throws set-up as the manual called for and they were WAY too much for me, even on low rates (remember this is my first season flying). I was able to land and then backed them way down and then started to bring them back up a little at a time after several flights. I also fly with a little exponential. Now the plane just grooves for me!
I think both planes are great and would change a thing with my plane history so far!
Here are a couple of pics.
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MikeB,
I kinda wish I would have put the 82 on mine, but the 72 does fine for me. Vertical is pretty good, not quite unlimited but it will go up and up.
Might have to try some different props, 13X6 APC is all I've had on mine. I guess it all comes down to how you like to fly.
Hope this helps, Phillip
I kinda wish I would have put the 82 on mine, but the 72 does fine for me. Vertical is pretty good, not quite unlimited but it will go up and up.
Might have to try some different props, 13X6 APC is all I've had on mine. I guess it all comes down to how you like to fly.
Hope this helps, Phillip
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I chose to tackle roughing the cut outs for the engine in before assembling the fuse halves.
This is a fairly easy build, but I have to say that I'm glad things are progressing. Probably because I have nothing to fly right now.
I chose to make an access hatch for the fuel tank. The Sullivan 10 oz tank won't fit through the aft bulkhead of the tank comp. and I always seem to need access to things that are not designed for maintenance.
Tonight I will be having a serious build session.
Kneeforu, I loved the PT40. Ridiculously durable. I miss it.
What are your low rates set on? I was thinking 35% might be a good place to start with such huge control surfaces.
This is a fairly easy build, but I have to say that I'm glad things are progressing. Probably because I have nothing to fly right now.
I chose to make an access hatch for the fuel tank. The Sullivan 10 oz tank won't fit through the aft bulkhead of the tank comp. and I always seem to need access to things that are not designed for maintenance.
Tonight I will be having a serious build session.
Kneeforu, I loved the PT40. Ridiculously durable. I miss it.
What are your low rates set on? I was thinking 35% might be a good place to start with such huge control surfaces.
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PT -
My throws are set-up as follows:
Aileron
27% low
35% high
35% expo
Elevator
70% low
100% high
15% expo
Rudder
100% low
120% high
25% expo
The low on the aileron was lower and I have inched it up to 27%. I came to rest at that spot for timing reasons. When I want to do 3 rolls in a row and have to add down / up / down / up..... etc, this rate is very controllable. 35% is controllable, but pretty quick.
My throws are set-up as follows:
Aileron
27% low
35% high
35% expo
Elevator
70% low
100% high
15% expo
Rudder
100% low
120% high
25% expo
The low on the aileron was lower and I have inched it up to 27%. I came to rest at that spot for timing reasons. When I want to do 3 rolls in a row and have to add down / up / down / up..... etc, this rate is very controllable. 35% is controllable, but pretty quick.
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It is difficult to work when I know this thing is sitting at home waiting for me. I installed DuBro gear in lieu of the supplied gear. I am much happier with the stance, prop clearance and sucurity. I covered one wing in the base color of yellow and will be putting the green patterns on tonight. The laser charring shows throught the covering a bit, whick I'm not real pleased with. Too bad the kits don't come with 3 wings. You could get that 1st practice wing out of the way and install the best 2/3.
I think I'll be repairing and modifying a basket case trainer to a taildragger for practice before I maiden this airplane. I need an extra receiver for my dx7 now. I'll post some pics later for anyone interested. I should be flying next week!!!
I think I'll be repairing and modifying a basket case trainer to a taildragger for practice before I maiden this airplane. I need an extra receiver for my dx7 now. I'll post some pics later for anyone interested. I should be flying next week!!!
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Very nice build so far man. I cant wait to see the covering job you do. I too built the SSE as my second plane and I loved it. One thing also: get some 2-56 rod for the elevator and rudder pushrods as the other stuff shrinks and expands on hot and cool days and is not as stiff or smooth as just music wire itself. Awesome Job!!!