Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
04-24-2008, 04:31 PM
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Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
I recently purchased a F-22 raptor pts and was wondering if the engine/servos/pushrods etc. could be transferred to the P-51 mustang? The reason I'm interested in possibly making the change is if I severely damage the body the mustang ARF is only $120.00 V.S. $160.00 for the raptor. Just curious.....Let me know. Thanks!
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
ORIGINAL: Limit
I recently purchased a F-22 raptor pts and was wondering if the engine/servos/pushrods etc. could be transferred to the P-51 mustang? The reason I'm interested in possibly making the change is if I severely damage the body the mustang ARF is only $120.00 V.S. $160.00 for the raptor. Just curious.....Let me know. Thanks!
I recently purchased a F-22 raptor pts and was wondering if the engine/servos/pushrods etc. could be transferred to the P-51 mustang? The reason I'm interested in possibly making the change is if I severely damage the body the mustang ARF is only $120.00 V.S. $160.00 for the raptor. Just curious.....Let me know. Thanks!
I would also think about buying a real trainer, not one of the PTS planes which are not nearly as forgiving and new pilot friendly as a proper trainer.
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
04-24-2008, 04:58 PM
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I would also think about buying a real trainer, not one of the PTS planes which are not nearly as forgiving and new pilot friendly as a proper trainer.
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
04-24-2008, 05:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: Nathan King
Students can be trained on these models (especially those having natural talent), but frankly the slightly sadistic side of me would really take pleasure in watching the marketing director for Hangar 9 tarred and feathered. They are doing a great disservice to students by marketing this as an absolute equivalent to the traditional trainer.
Students can be trained on these models (especially those having natural talent), but frankly the slightly sadistic side of me would really take pleasure in watching the marketing director for Hangar 9 tarred and feathered. They are doing a great disservice to students by marketing this as an absolute equivalent to the traditional trainer.
Ken
04-24-2008, 06:25 PM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
Yeah. I've got a Supercub and I lightly banged up my front wheel on my Raptor. I have every intention of repairing it. This is more down the road if I really FUBAR it. Thanks a lot for the info guy!
04-24-2008, 07:10 PM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
It's disappointing that the same company who markets the Alpha 40, Alpha 60, and Arrow 40 trainers wants to push the P51 and F22 PTS trainers instead of marketing the world class products they already have in their lineup.
Maybe the Alpha 40 2.4 RTF is a sign that they're coming to their senses?
Maybe the Alpha 40 2.4 RTF is a sign that they're coming to their senses?
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
i just bought the raptor as an arf and i'm almost done building. It seems really heavy! almost more so than my 1/4 scale great planes cub. A little worried but we'll see. i'm using a 46FX that is tried and true from my alpha trainer that i really don't fly any more. Limit what size engine are you flying with and whats your take on it?
Great planes 1/4 scale piper cub(.72 saito)
hangar 9 twist(.82)
hangar 9 F-22 Raptor(.46FX O.S.)
Great planes 1/4 scale piper cub(.72 saito)
hangar 9 twist(.82)
hangar 9 F-22 Raptor(.46FX O.S.)
04-24-2008, 10:11 PM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
ORIGINAL: bdleon75
i just bought the raptor as an arf and i'm almost done building. It seems really heavy! almost more so than my 1/4 scale great planes cub. A little worried but we'll see. i'm using a 46FX that is tried and true from my alpha trainer that i really don't fly any more. Limit what size engine are you flying with and whats your take on it?
Great planes 1/4 scale piper cub(.72 saito)
hangar 9 twist(.82)
hangar 9 F-22 Raptor(.46FX O.S.)
i just bought the raptor as an arf and i'm almost done building. It seems really heavy! almost more so than my 1/4 scale great planes cub. A little worried but we'll see. i'm using a 46FX that is tried and true from my alpha trainer that i really don't fly any more. Limit what size engine are you flying with and whats your take on it?
Great planes 1/4 scale piper cub(.72 saito)
hangar 9 twist(.82)
hangar 9 F-22 Raptor(.46FX O.S.)
Basically, it's a nice airplane but not as easy as a traditional trainer.
04-25-2008, 09:33 AM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
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He didn't say it was banged up, he said in case he does bang it up, that it is cheaper to replace.[sm=wink_smile.gif]
ORIGINAL: manks
How bad is it banged up? My experience is that the fuse is much easier to fix than a wing, why not spend a couple of bucks on glue and balsa and do a repair?
I would also think about buying a real trainer, not one of the PTS planes which are not nearly as forgiving and new pilot friendly as a proper trainer.
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
ORIGINAL: Limit
I recently purchased a F-22 raptor pts and was wondering if the engine/servos/pushrods etc. could be transferred to the P-51 mustang? The reason I'm interested in possibly making the change is if I severely damage the body the mustang ARF is only $120.00 V.S. $160.00 for the raptor. Just curious.....Let me know. Thanks!
I recently purchased a F-22 raptor pts and was wondering if the engine/servos/pushrods etc. could be transferred to the P-51 mustang? The reason I'm interested in possibly making the change is if I severely damage the body the mustang ARF is only $120.00 V.S. $160.00 for the raptor. Just curious.....Let me know. Thanks!
I would also think about buying a real trainer, not one of the PTS planes which are not nearly as forgiving and new pilot friendly as a proper trainer.
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
04-28-2008, 06:38 PM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
I have a Nexstar and an old Midwest aero-star .40 and a P-51 PTS trainer. I learned on the P-51 PTS and after having flow the three of them I must say the P-51 is an all around better air plane as a trainer. It handles the wind better and flys better that the others. but thats just me. As for the Raptor..I think it blows for a trainer.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
It flies really well, but exhibits neutral static stability. Basically, it will not correct itself. It will slow down almost as much as a trainer but flies best at a speed slightly faster than trainers. When I flew it I found that it was slightly more difficult for beginners to keep orientation because of the profile.
Basically, it's a nice airplane but not as easy as a traditional trainer.
Basically, it's a nice airplane but not as easy as a traditional trainer.
I've put a 11x6 apc with a truturn alum spinner. pictures are in my profile beacuse i dont know how to add them to here.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
i know some people who bought the raptor and a guy has a evolution 52 in it with a 11x7 an seems to fly like a dog.
I got a O.S 55ax and i dont know if i even wanna try to fly it.
They seem real lagy etc the O.S pulls the plane around no problem but still see people having toubles.
has anyone had same thing and how was it corrected
I got a O.S 55ax and i dont know if i even wanna try to fly it.
They seem real lagy etc the O.S pulls the plane around no problem but still see people having toubles.
has anyone had same thing and how was it corrected
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
I just stopped by the local hobby shop and bought a gms .61 for the raptor. the 46fx barely got it off the ground. it pulled ok once in the air but id rather have power to spare and use throttle management. than not have enough and get into trouble.
05-01-2008, 08:48 PM
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ORIGINAL: bdleon75
I just stopped by the local hobby shop and bought a gms .61 for the raptor. the 46fx barely got it off the ground. it pulled ok once in the air but id rather have power to spare and use throttle management. than not have enough and get into trouble.
I just stopped by the local hobby shop and bought a gms .61 for the raptor. the 46fx barely got it off the ground. it pulled ok once in the air but id rather have power to spare and use throttle management. than not have enough and get into trouble.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
ORIGINAL: RCKen
You said a mouthfull brother!!!!! [sm=thumbup.gif]
Ken
ORIGINAL: Nathan King
Students can be trained on these models (especially those having natural talent), but frankly the slightly sadistic side of me would really take pleasure in watching the marketing director for Hangar 9 tarred and feathered. They are doing a great disservice to students by marketing this as an absolute equivalent to the traditional trainer.
Students can be trained on these models (especially those having natural talent), but frankly the slightly sadistic side of me would really take pleasure in watching the marketing director for Hangar 9 tarred and feathered. They are doing a great disservice to students by marketing this as an absolute equivalent to the traditional trainer.
Ken
It's definitely not a plane for someone w/o an instructor and buddy box though.
However I'd agree that the F-22 ( to paraphrase something someone said here ) "blows chunks" as a trainer. It's a handful.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
i had the 46FX with a 11x6 apc with a tru turn alum spinner. on nice flat grass it was a dog on take off and a very slow climbout. i kept the climbout really shallow because i was worried it was gonna stall. once flying level it flew nice. i even tried a roll and it tracked beautifully. but i had to stay at full throttle the entire time. this gms was only 79.99 for 2 hp and looks great. i did have to buy a new motor mount for it to fit but that included still cheaper than an O.S. i havent flown it yet still breaking it in. maybe this weekend.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
ok so i flew the raptor today. it was a little gusty but oh well.
its now set up with the gms .61 turning a 11x7 apc with a truturn alum spinner. the cg is at its forward most point 5 3/4in.
60% expo on the elevator and aileron
rudder mixed with ailerons 40%
flaps set on switch approx. 1in deflection
heres the upside:
1# no more bouncing the nose up and down when you taxi. even on grass.
2# takes off like a JET!
3# absolutely SCREAMS down the straightaways!
4# lands like a JET, no floating. at a little above idle with flaps down comes in solid.
heres the downside:
see #4 above. Get over it.
It flew like a dream. i wouldnt recommend this airplane with anything less than a .61 and not newbie friendly unless you use expo. even then, jeesh hang on.
just my 2 cents.
its now set up with the gms .61 turning a 11x7 apc with a truturn alum spinner. the cg is at its forward most point 5 3/4in.
60% expo on the elevator and aileron
rudder mixed with ailerons 40%
flaps set on switch approx. 1in deflection
heres the upside:
1# no more bouncing the nose up and down when you taxi. even on grass.
2# takes off like a JET!
3# absolutely SCREAMS down the straightaways!
4# lands like a JET, no floating. at a little above idle with flaps down comes in solid.
heres the downside:
see #4 above. Get over it.
It flew like a dream. i wouldnt recommend this airplane with anything less than a .61 and not newbie friendly unless you use expo. even then, jeesh hang on.
just my 2 cents.
08-03-2008, 07:36 PM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
ORIGINAL: Nathan King
Students can be trained on these models (especially those having natural talent), but frankly the slightly sadistic side of me would really take pleasure in watching the marketing director for Hangar 9 tarred and feathered. They are doing a great disservice to students by marketing this as an absolute equivalent to the traditional trainer.
I would also think about buying a real trainer, not one of the PTS planes which are not nearly as forgiving and new pilot friendly as a proper trainer.
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
A question - are you getting instruction or trying to learn on your own?
10-07-2008, 07:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: bdleon75
ok so i flew the raptor today. it was a little gusty but oh well.
its now set up with the gms .61 turning a 11x7 apc with a truturn alum spinner. the cg is at its forward most point 5 3/4in.
60% expo on the elevator and aileron
rudder mixed with ailerons 40%
flaps set on switch approx. 1in deflection
heres the upside:
1# no more bouncing the nose up and down when you taxi. even on grass.
2# takes off like a JET!
3# absolutely SCREAMS down the straightaways!
4# lands like a JET, no floating. at a little above idle with flaps down comes in solid.
heres the downside:
see #4 above. Get over it.
It flew like a dream. i wouldnt recommend this airplane with anything less than a .61 and not newbie friendly unless you use expo. even then, jeesh hang on.
just my 2 cents.
ok so i flew the raptor today. it was a little gusty but oh well.
its now set up with the gms .61 turning a 11x7 apc with a truturn alum spinner. the cg is at its forward most point 5 3/4in.
60% expo on the elevator and aileron
rudder mixed with ailerons 40%
flaps set on switch approx. 1in deflection
heres the upside:
1# no more bouncing the nose up and down when you taxi. even on grass.
2# takes off like a JET!
3# absolutely SCREAMS down the straightaways!
4# lands like a JET, no floating. at a little above idle with flaps down comes in solid.
heres the downside:
see #4 above. Get over it.
It flew like a dream. i wouldnt recommend this airplane with anything less than a .61 and not newbie friendly unless you use expo. even then, jeesh hang on.
just my 2 cents.
10-07-2008, 07:54 PM
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
I have read that the biggest downfall of this plane is the excessive downthrust built into the firewall and makes this plane fly like a dog, i heard that a few washers placed behind the motor mount will fix this and make the plane handle and fly much better, i know i will be doing this to my new F-22. Still have to decide on my new TT PRO.46 or my new Magnum. 52XLS, will have to break both in and see which has the better #'s.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
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I have read that the biggest downfall of this plane is the excessive downthrust built into the firewall and makes this plane fly like a dog, i heard that a few washers placed behind the motor mount will fix this and make the plane handle and fly much better, i know i will be doing this to my new F-22. Still have to decide on my new TT PRO.46 or my new Magnum. 52XLS, will have to break both in and see which has the better #'s.
I have read that the biggest downfall of this plane is the excessive downthrust built into the firewall and makes this plane fly like a dog, i heard that a few washers placed behind the motor mount will fix this and make the plane handle and fly much better, i know i will be doing this to my new F-22. Still have to decide on my new TT PRO.46 or my new Magnum. 52XLS, will have to break both in and see which has the better #'s.
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RE: Hanger 9 F-22 Raptor/P-51 Mustang PTS
In another forum, I read that Hangar 9 is discontinuing both PTS models (Rapture, and P-51). If true, when the warehouse drys up they are done. Maybe H9 is doing a re-design, new color schemes, beefing them up a bit (they have a pretty fuse in my opinion), we will have to wait and see. Anyone else heard this through the grapeline?
Glad I picked up an ARF, working on it right now, got a new GMS47 for it but might put an old OS61FS in if it will fit. I will be hooking up the flaps and since this will be my 3rd plane in the hanger, I'm going to leave off all the PTS stuff. Can't wait to see her fly, I love warbirds!
DG
Glad I picked up an ARF, working on it right now, got a new GMS47 for it but might put an old OS61FS in if it will fit. I will be hooking up the flaps and since this will be my 3rd plane in the hanger, I'm going to leave off all the PTS stuff. Can't wait to see her fly, I love warbirds!
DG