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Old 09-18-2016, 06:31 AM
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Ahh. I will have to look at it.
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Originally Posted by grotto2
Alternates to the MS2K encoder are

Simple Encoder http://www.mindspring.com/~rellis2/r.../SimpEncV3.doc
Cal Orr may have one available, and he does custom conversions.
Phil Green (UK) http://www.singlechannel.co.uk/
Grotto,
Do you have any more info regarding the Simple Encoder? It seems that "Phil" is not associated with the Simple Encoder. Thanks much.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:57 PM
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The Simple Encoder is mine. Contact me directly by pm or [email protected] for availability and pricing.
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Old 09-24-2016, 04:09 AM
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Email sent, thanks.
Old 01-10-2017, 03:00 AM
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Have completed installing one of Ron's Simple Encoders into an older Kraft knobby Tx. So far, mostly very good (few things needing input that's me, not the encoder). Will post some pics as soon as I get a break from work and the road! Hopefully over the weekend.
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:20 PM
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Hey Mark,

great news! Do post some pics so we can see how it went together. I might just have to go this route to get one of my Krafts up and running...

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Old 01-14-2017, 05:17 AM
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Will do David. Just finishing up a Pro Line Comp 6 also. A few bugs to work out that are mostly me. I will add that my communications with Ron have been nothing less than superb! He has already edited the SimpEnc docs to reflect our discussions. Particularly so as to make it easy to understand for anyone with basic soldering skills!
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Old 01-14-2017, 05:55 AM
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What a great thread. Thanks guys. Was wondering how I had missed it 5 years ago but I see it was running during the RCU software switch over.
Old 01-14-2017, 05:48 PM
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So I finished up the Pro Line this morning. Once I screwed my head on correctly I got things squared away fairly well. I connected a FrySky hack module and an XPS universal module. Both work well and the encoder works as advertised! I still have some questions I'm working through with Ron but these are mainly related to the finer points of the programming. I tested the set-up with analog and digital servos, as well as some old analog JR NES527s, all performed great! Will try to post pics tomorrow but at least by Monday (I have a few days off at home!). If you want a simple throw back Tx with a few modern features, I suggest you consider the Simple Encoder V3. !!! I'm looking at the Kraft for a kit built CG Skylane 62, and the Pro Line for the Kaos 60 ARF. Should be a hoot!
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Old 01-16-2017, 04:51 AM
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I've always wanted a single stick that I could use. I have a Kraft, a Proline and the nice Futaba 8 channel but never used or converted them.
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I'd love to see some photos ...for those of us who remember the days of old ( Pro-Line, Heathkit, JR, Kraft SS radios) and stick fly SS Frankenstein radios.....

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Old 01-17-2017, 07:25 AM
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Here's one of the backside of the Pro Line SS. Along with a few of my other single sticks that get regular use (except for the Kraft in the back, for now!). Will get more up later.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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Very nice hook..Very clean Pro-Line backside. What do you like about the Ace Tx ? How is the stick assembly compared to the Pro-Line ? I actually liked the JR Tx layout very much but had many issues with the radio...went to Futaba. I've been very happy with Tony Stillman's modifications to my Futaba's ( Super7 and 12fg). Just hard to comprehend that 12fg manual because I don't get a chance to fly as often as I did years ago.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:44 PM
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Hey B, thanks for that feedback.
It's really hard to beat the Pro Line SS assembly. I think what I like about the ACE is it isn't as hefty when positioning about its axis. The Pro Line does have weight to it compared to the others I'm familiar with. That said, it is still likely one of the best gimbals ever produced (IMHO). The ACE Tx ergonomically is not as wide as the Pro Line, and the arrangement of the trims and other switches are more reachable. In my case it works better for me. I also like the JRs, I have two that I use every now and then, and one that is NIB, which I believe to be about as NIB as one can find, box and all! The Simple Encoder really is simple, it can be done in a few evenings and offers the simplicity of radios that we used years ago. Sure, it doesn't have all the modern programming and mixes, but then again that wasn't available back then either. Anyhow, if anyone is thinking of giving it a try I highly encourage it. I think you'll find it easy and actually fun to do.
Mark

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Old 01-21-2017, 04:57 AM
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Nice collection hook. This has always interested me but gotta have the time.
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Originally Posted by dhal22
Nice collection hook. This has always interested me but gotta have the time.

Thanks David. You're spot on regarding time. My youthful philosophy was I'd have more time when I got older! Now, closing in on 60, that philosophy was more like youthful thinking! But seriously, if you want to try this, you could do it on a rainy weekend morning or afternoon. This is really an easier done than said (I do mean it in that order too!) project. Ron recently updated the info for it and added a few drawings. So if you have an old Kraft, Pro Line, or other brand Tx I encourage you to give it a go. If you have the tools to solder etc., the encoder and 2.4 module and receiver shouldn't set you back more than $100. Try it, you'll be glad you did!!
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:05 AM
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I have a Kraft and a ProLine.
Old 01-24-2017, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dhal22
I have a Kraft and a ProLine.

There you go, either one will make a good candidate!
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Have enjoyed reading the thread. A few years ago I was flying a foamy with a Kraft Bicentennial 7C transmitter and got some priceless reactions! I learned to fly on an Orbit single stick--and learned a lot about building........ Due to learning from my dad, I switched to mode 1, but because of the single stick experience, I can pretty much fly anything. And have taken all the abuse that goes with it! For me, other than critical, precision flying, single stick is fun on occasion.
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Originally Posted by hook57
There you go, either one will make a good candidate!
I'll have to ask for direction.............
Old 01-29-2017, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dhal22
I'll have to ask for direction.............


Certainly! I'm sure the OP wouldn't mind if questions and directions got addressed here.
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Old 01-29-2017, 04:27 PM
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Here are mine.
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Old 01-29-2017, 04:30 PM
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A couple of photos of the Pro Line.
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Old 01-30-2017, 04:53 PM
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Both would be easy to drop the Simple Encoder into David. The Pro Line is a 3 channel? It would only use three of the six proportional channels but you could add the model select if you wanted too. The Kraft should be an easy job too. I've done a Series 72 (5 channel) and a Series 78 (7 channel).
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Old 01-31-2017, 04:28 PM
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I was wondering how many channels. Not many it appears.


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