DaveL322

For those that recall the "Project Pattern" series of articles in Flying Models by Dean Pappas and Bob Hunt long about 1984-1985, it was a very comprehensive and detailed series of how to build and trim a pattern plane. The subject model was "Baby Huey", an EU1-A.

Having recently completed a similar series entitled “Project Foamy� (which was well received), I plan to revisit Project Pattern with a modern day full composite 2M pattern ship. The Europa Pro LT will the subject model.

To support the intro of the series, I'm hoping to find a couple items -
1. some good pics of the EU1-A, even better would be an EU1-A next to a modern day 2M patternship.
2. OLD FAI rulebooks to discern the timing/details of the various rules changes that affected the planes used in the event -ie, implementation of the more restrictive noise limit (drop from ~105 db to 94 db), flight box, turnaround style, displacement limit increases from 60 2C to 60 2C / 120 4C and then to unlimited displacement, 2M box, etc.

Thanks!

Jim Oliver

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Check this link for old AMA Pattern rule books, used during the pre-turn a round and transition years.

http://www.classicpatternassociation...formation.html

Jim

bob27s

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Chiming in the subscribe to thread...

Id like to see how that all comes together Dave. Looks like fun.

Bob

DaveL322

Thanks Jim, I'll dig through the CPA site.

Hopefully someone has some EU1-A pics!

Regards,

gltruett

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There should be plenty of EU1-A pictures out there, there are manufacturers in both NC and CA producing modern kits. A few months ago some built EU1-As came up for sale http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10..._1/key_/tm.htm It looks like both went to Stuntflyr, if you get in touch with him maybe he can help you out

BullardRM

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frequent flyer

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Pictures of EU1-A's

Gene Margiotti

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I can't stop drooling!!

Gene

samdimaio

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orig. aero composites EU-1A, 30 years old, restored 2x, who knows how many flights/engines, currently with rossi 61/rossi pipe, 11x7.5, spring air gear, about 10lbs., flies every weekend - fast, smooth & precise, loud, smoke trails - lots of fun - good jet trainer - dont forget the semi-annual bearing changes and use lots of oil or those rare RE engnes wont last

stuntflyr

Love it, Sam.
How much oil and why so many bearing changes on the Rossi? I've got three used RE's and want to run them on my U-1A.
Thanks,
Chris...

flywilly

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18% all synthetic. run the engine dry at the end of the flying session. rear bearings should last at least 300-500 flights. I have never needed to change a front bearing (except for crashes). Run the engine as rich as reasonably possible and do not set the pipe for maximum ground rpm (it should be at least 1/4" longer). After crashes and dirt, heat is the biggest enemy of your engine.
Happy flying!
PS I've been flying r/c since 1969 and pattern since 1973 and fly a LOT: 500-700 flights per year for more than 20 years!

stuntflyr

Thanks. Evidently these that I have, have all been run with a lot of castor, but only one has any rust. That sure is a lot of flying, I'd have to try hard to get to that amount of use for these Classic models.
Chris...

MMcConville

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Great pics! I love the one of Steve Strickers EU-1A!! That scheme looked great on it!

DaveL322

Ok...thanks to CPA and a separate effort by Joe Lachowski, I now have AMA rulebook PDFs from 1973 to 2011, and FAI from 1984 - 2011.

Pics of the EU1-As are great. I'd definitely like to use some in Flying Models. If anyone can email the original digital pics or high res scans, that is what I'd need to get good prints in Flying Models. My email is DaveL322@comcast[dot]net.

Thanks!

PatternPilot

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Hey Dave,

Maybe between you , Dean P. and Joe L. you can get a CPA contest in the NJ,PA area...

Scott Anderson
CPA#2

DaveL322

Scott,

1st problem is noise....need to be relatively quiet at all the fields I fly at these days.

2nd is glow fuel....I've used less than 1 gallon in the last 5 years.....I have very little desire to fiddle with "slimers" these days [X(]

Regards,

Dean Pappas

Hi Gang,
Ditto on the noise issues!

Hello Sam DiMaio,
Where is that pretty flying field near West Chester?

Regards,
Dean Pappas

PatternPilot

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Not to open a can of worms in 1976 rule books electrics are allowed

scott

Dean Pappas

You know ... once you open a can of worms, you can only get them back into a much bigger can!
Why is that?
Regards,
Dean Pappas

stuntflyr

I'm as old a glow guy as anyone, I've got no problems with electric. In fact I kinda don't like gas, too noisy the way guys run them. Most of the Classics I have would look really neat with no engine holes in the body.
Chris...

EU1a

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I loved the EU1-A so much, I made it my screen name. I still have 2 of the 3 sister ships from late '80s early '90s. In the process of restoring one of them. Last time I saw Wayne at Toledo, I tried to talk him into doing a 2m one. An electric version would be neat also, without the hole for the cylinder-head.
Anyway, here are my pics from the day.

WEDJ

Besidesa being a great design, the EU1a was successful because it was larger than most pattern ships of the time. Look at the photo above of it next to a Birdy. Larger planes fly better. But, because of it's size and weight, the EU1a needed a really honkin' engine to perform well.

BullardRM

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There was a member (Loyd Nicholson) of the Mile Hi club in Denver that built one, but could not get any decent performance at 5000 feet. I often wonder how it perfromed at sea level.

EU1a

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In the last picture, that's the beach in the background. We fly over the water. We are sea level. It screamed straigh'n'level, pulled like a monter straight up and floated in oh so gently on landing. People wanted to fly it to practice for those new things coming out called ducted fan jets.

Twinhydro

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WANTED : EU -1A in decent condition !!