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Old 02-14-2012, 10:11 PM
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Will,

With this low of a number being produced...... what would parts availability be then? I understand the drive behind this engine and the reason for it. I would just hate to buy a new engine and 1 year later something happens with very little to no parts support. I understand that we are in this exact predicament with the older engines.... But there were how many hundereds made so parts are still out there. Just thinking outside the box on this.

Food for thought: Now if YS would remake 100 piston/liner sets with a better rod for the old FR I think you would have a 99.9% guarantee that those would sell in a heart beat..... I know... wishful thinking...[&o]

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Old 02-15-2012, 12:39 AM
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Default RE: Anybody interested in a NEW YS shortstroke? New, as in produced this year...

its not a big issue, the castings dies for the the longstroke are current, the only new stuff is the cnc files to cut pistons and new rods, and sleeves, rather simple issues for new parts, a digital file versus dies for castings..... its exciting times that ballistic planes and engines are making a resurgence.. a ballistic renaissance even!
Old 02-15-2012, 12:46 AM
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Will,
...and can you also chat with somebody to talk to OS to have some RFs or even Hannos be made...??
There should be some interest in this all around the world i guess.

Achim
Old 02-15-2012, 03:16 AM
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Will,
...and can you also chat with somebody to talk to OS to have some RFs or even Hannos be made...??
There should be some interest in this all around the world i guess.

Achim
We've brought that up several times in the past with the folks at Tower/Hobbico, and the answer was always that it wasn't
something OS was interested in...maybe with YS getting involved the answer may change.

Will, I would take one or two of YS short strokes if they are in the $300 ballpark. Now we just need Hatori to make pipes and headers readily available again!
Old 02-15-2012, 03:24 AM
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Default RE: Anybody interested in a NEW YS shortstroke? New, as in produced this year...

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Hmmmmm, chicken or egg? . . . . If guys don't buy the engines, they won't make the parts. If they don't make the parts, there will be no engines . . .
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Sometimes you just gotta jump . . .
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ORIGINAL: impactiq

Will,

With this low of a number being produced...... what would parts availability be then? I understand the drive behind this engine and the reason for it. I would just hate to buy a new engine and 1 year later something happens with very little to no parts support. I understand that we are in this exact predicament with the older engines.... But there were how many hundereds made so parts are still out there. Just thinking outside the box on this.

Food for thought: Now if YS would remake 100 piston/liner sets with a better rod for the old FR I think you would have a 99.9% guarantee that those would sell in a heart beat..... I know... wishful thinking...[&o]

Mark
Old 02-15-2012, 08:46 AM
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Keep us posted please, I have a couple projects in mind that this would be perfect for,,
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I'll buy one.
Old 02-15-2012, 09:52 AM
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ys 60 best short stroke ever
Old 02-15-2012, 10:31 AM
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Default RE: Anybody interested in a NEW YS shortstroke? New, as in produced this year...

Willy,

Yes I want one, if you allow purchase for overseas buyer. I live in Bali, Indonesia.
Have almost complete an MK Cosmos 60 and would love to have a YS pulling it.

Regards
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Why bother with an engine with such a short production run? You don't need them anyway. You can buy all you need from Jett if well healed, and Fox if not.
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Default RE: Anybody interested in a NEW YS shortstroke? New, as in produced this year...

I think 500 to 1000 flights is required to need bearings. How much for a piston and liner?
I 've flown 20 gallons through an OS 46 AX and see no need to do anything to it, so I wonder if the need for parts is somehow over stated.
Anyone flown their Classic so much lately!? You know, enough to really warrant replacement parts?
Chris...
Old 02-15-2012, 11:10 AM
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I may have a connection for the OS...

Will check on lay overs...

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ys 60 best short stroke ever
I think is true too. One could run it fast or slow with load and pipe setting. Not as true with the long strokes.

Which makes me wonder...If what Will sez is true, YS is gonna mess with a winning recipe yet again and get the adoring public to figure it out as they have done time and again with their 4 cycles.

Gotta admire YS Marketing strategies. Introducing a half baked solution every 6-12 months and having folks figger them out as they go. It should be taught in Business school as Marketing 101
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They just follow the Microsoft Business Strategy.
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They just follow the Microsoft Business Strategy.

Well, no. If it was, they'd charge $600, it'd barely make more power than an OS .40LA, and would be made out of depleted uranium for no apparent reason.
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I think 500 to 1000 flights is required to need bearings. How much for a piston and liner?
I 've flown 20 gallons through an OS 46 AX and see no need to do anything to it, so I wonder if the need for parts is somehow over stated.
Anyone flown their Classic so much lately!? You know, enough to really warrant replacement parts?
Chris...
Chris,, yeah I have flown my Kaos enough to need spares,,,, I need a spare wing,, fuse, and reciever,, [:@]
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Why bother with an engine with such a short production run?
Perhaps you've never owned/operated a YS engine...?

ORIGINAL: Sport_Pilot
You don't need them anyway. You can buy all you need from Jett if well healed, and Fox if not.
Well, actually some designs (typically the ones with inverted RE piped setups) are better off using pumped engines. While it is possible to pump a non pumped engine, there are no substitutes for the integrated concept of the pumped "super charged" YS engine. Jett's are very nice engines but cost about twice as much as any other engine ever did for these classics. They are also un-pumped. I don't know of anyone now or back in the day during the 80's that ever used a Fox engine on a pattern plane.

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Old 02-15-2012, 04:06 PM
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OK I'll pop for one.

Gene
Old 02-15-2012, 06:29 PM
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Not me.....I'm stickin with the original game plan....Rossi/AXE and NovaRossi/REX.
PM me if you want a YS LS.
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I know Paul has a list of people looking for these from last year. I am in for 2 of these motors. The same I had on Pauls list. If they make the 100 how do I make sure I get 2. My Aurora 60 and the Aurora 60 I am building from scratch both need them.


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Steve,
and anybody that really wants one needs to call Rich Verano at YSUSand get on his list.

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I know Paul has a list of people looking for these from last year. I am in for 2 of these motors. The same I had on Pauls list. If they make the 100 how do I make sure I get 2. My Aurora 60 and the Aurora 60 I am building from scratch both need them.


Steve
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As Dave says the NovaRossi/Rex is another great engine and in production for 219 at
http://www.planethobby.com/home.php?cat=29

We are starting to have choices!

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Not me.....I'm stickin with the original game plan....Rossi/AXE and NovaRossi/REX.
PM me if you want a YS LS.
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I think 500 to 1000 flights is required to need bearings. How much for a piston and liner?
I 've flown 20 gallons through an OS 46 AX and see no need to do anything to it, so I wonder if the need for parts is somehow over stated.
Anyone flown their Classic so much lately!? You know, enough to really warrant replacement parts?
Chris...
Chris,, yeah I have flown my Kaos enough to need spares,,,, I need a spare wing,, fuse, and reciever,, [:@]
That's FUNNY! I gave my Kaos to my son because I totalled his Speed Air, nothing survived, not even the rx!
Chris...

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Sorry, maybe when they fix RC universe these double postings will stop!
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While it is possible to pump a non pumped engine, there are no substitutes for the integrated concept of the pumped "super charged" YS engine.
The two strokes were not supercharged.  While the YS engines were good, I think the OS and SuperTigers were more powerful.  While the Fox engines of the day were not popular for pattern because of the carb, those today are better than many of the earlier pattern engines.  Actually you saw a few Fox's mostly in the lower class's.  You never saw EVO, ASP, Magnum, TT, and never saw four strokes either.  And of course let's not forget electric power.  All are used on today's classic pattern planes.  So to say that you didn't use Fox engines in the day is a very poor reason not to use one.

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