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Old 12-29-2012, 02:45 PM
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I'm thinking of this scheme. I just can't get my butt down to the basement to work on it. I am plugging away at it, just not at my usual pace.
For a while, my benches looked like Santa's gift wrapping department
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:06 PM
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I thought we might see a Veitnam camo job on this one, nothing too scale . I always thought some of thes classics looked like older jets and wanted to do one up like one just to be different, looks good though.
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can you do a drawing with the pee green changed to red... ?
Old 12-30-2012, 02:57 PM
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Here you go Scott. The camo is only a what if. I even thought of the old Cicus Circus paint scheme. I have painted or covered so many red, white and blue birds.
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:26 PM
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The camo is cool!

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Old 12-30-2012, 05:31 PM
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The red,white,blue looks sweet.

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Old 12-30-2012, 06:21 PM
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I think the camo is cool also, maybe a few well placed markings and the bottom white and it would look the part!
Old 12-31-2012, 07:43 AM
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There were two versions of the three tone wrap around w/ the the bottom being a ghost grey. Heck, add some drop tanks from the GP Phantom and drop them on a high speed pass. This way I can loose all respect from the pattern community
The rudder is now done minus the 1/4" dowel for the pull-pull system. The tank floor is ready to go in after adding blind nuts for the gear. There is plenty of room for the tank compaired to my H9 Phoenix 7. I may slide the tank floor up a bit to eliminate the little bend in the gear.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:56 AM
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There were two versions of the three tone wrap around w/ the the bottom being a ghost grey. Heck, add some drop tanks from the GP Phantom and drop them on a high speed pass.
That would be cool.... imo.

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Old 12-31-2012, 08:01 AM
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Brian,
The tree line would make it disappear
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hahahaha drop tanks ought to really impress the judges ! It does look cool in camo though but orientation could suffer. Anyways I am following your build and its looking good!
Old 12-31-2012, 09:48 AM
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Firewall is now glassed from behind and tank floor ready for install.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:48 PM
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The tank floor is in and ready to be glassed in after the filling epoxy sets. I did move up the tank floor 1/4" from the print.
I also included some pics of my shop. The two benches are anchored to the wall, flat and level. They are great for wings and foam cores. These pics, and a few more,were taken for the club's basement of the month last year. The winter project was flown this year.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:56 AM
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The nose gear is set. I did lengthen it a 1/4" and will do the same for the mains. We have a great, well manacured grass field. 99.9% of the time
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:47 PM
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The engine/muffler cutout are finalized. Now the fun part starts, WINGS/STAB
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:48 PM
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Hey EDP,

Glad to see you back at it. Keep up the great work & Happy New Year......

David
Old 01-04-2013, 05:11 PM
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I had a minor problem as the cores were cut askew. I trued up both the root and tip. I then added 3/32" to fit it to the print. It took longer for the glue to dry than fixing it. I cut out for solid elevators. I didn't have much to glue my hinge points to. The stab is ready for joining and the anhedral sanded in at the root roughly 2 degrees per side. This gave me the 2" called for at the tip.
The wing are also sheeted. I have added some Cf horse hair to the TE hoping to help w/ the dings[:@]
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:40 PM
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Ed,

One thing I did on a recent Tipo build was to follow the build instructions and use one screw up front for the wing and two in the back. However, because of the curvature and thickness of the wing at the LE I found out that it's possible to actually over tighten the wing and have the hardwood dowel exit the top of the wing near the mount plate. This doesn't happen at the TE as the dowels are captured by the flush TE with the mounting blocks and the thin ply plate on the bottom which prevents over entry of the bolts.

In short, I no longer plan to mount my foam wings like that if I don't need to. I'll use the dual dowel approach on the wing LE with a 1/8" ply plate at the fuse junction. On the backside of the glass you can also install a couple of squares or rings of ply to anchor the dowels. Many don't like the dowels but they also make for a faster wing mount.

Just wanted to relay that experience. The last thing we want is to have a detached wing from the fuse of a just finished build...

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I second the dual dowels at the leading edge method. I always do it that way regardless of  what the plan says.
Old 01-04-2013, 07:51 PM
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Hi Dave,
I built three Tipos in the past w/o a problem like that one. I like to glass the dowels in so they can't move. I use a heavy then two layers of 3/4 oz. cloth overlap. I'm not a big dowel in the LE either. I did notice that the elevators are bigger on the Illusion compared to the Tiporare. My sanding jigs were too small.
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The wing cores are trimed and sized. This is a good place to stop until Thursday. ( that pesky work thing is starting up again[:@])
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:47 PM
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I like your choice on the bright green, blue and white paint scheme . I did something similar on a Patricia ....refreshing. There are thousands of red, white and blue paint schemes. The bottom is akin to D. Brown's aircraft of old. Keep up the good work...

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I talk to Dave Brown and Sally every year at the Toledo Show. I'm was going to tell him I stole his paint scheme and all his Shlitz
Old 01-07-2013, 01:00 PM
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I like the camo, use the drops to light up the place when it disappears in the trees. Big impression points!
Back to reality...
Chris...
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ORIGINAL: edp

I talk to Dave Brown and Sally every year at the Toledo Show. I'm was going to tell him I stole his paint scheme and all his Shlitz
Strohs not Shlitz


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