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Old 11-06-2015, 04:41 AM
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I can get it straight. Just like the look but didn't know if it did anything for the plane other then looks. Cool idea on the tool !
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Originally Posted by nappyroots2182
It's just like gorilla glue but less foaming. I spread the glue on the wood only, put everything together and in the sandwich for a few minutes with weight on it.... Then pulled ask the wood back off and lightly misted water above the bench and reassembled. This way I could look at the foam and make sure there was plenty of glue transfer. This glue is slow but says it will work on pretty much anything
I have built with balsa for 30 years but last couple years got addicted to dollar tree foam board building planes every once in a while . I hate flat airfoils tho and build ones that look and preform like real wings for my scratch builds. I have been using elmers rubber cement on ribs and sheeting and let to get tacky ,once folded over together you cant pull it appart . Will try Elmers Max on a couple different wings i make ,thanks . Two different ones i build . joe
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:19 AM
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You guys and your big plastic squares .lol Right about the time i retired as a carpenter they came out with lazers so now i mark my center of the fuse front ,middle and back and line the lazer up to the marks. You seen cheap lazers go around the corners of a room ?
Yep it goes up the rudder your trying to line up too , does not get any straighter than that. , So I square and glue my rudder on the elev then lazer the rudder to the fuse. joe
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I too am building a XLT and Escape. Done away w/ the weights and went to a vacuum bag system. Will start to post my XLT blog later.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:35 AM
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Not sure what header you are planning but Leo from http://www.klasskotemo.com/ Is making headers for the NR's to fit. I have the prototype for my XLT.
This is close to the Jenesco 1004 Rossi header. It is made long for tuning.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:46 AM
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I was going to buy the 2"and 3" rise and see which worked. I'll look into this header also. That's a nice fit
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I did the homework already. The first 2" and 1"
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:35 AM
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How much was the header? His site didn't have it listed
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Contact him directly as this was a prototype to check the fit on the Bridi kit.
Leo is a class act and will respond back quickly.
I don't work for him, we have just struck up a friendship over the past couple of years. I get my a lot of my supplies from him and he is a blazing fast shipper.
Good luck,
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Originally Posted by joebahl
You guys and your big plastic squares .lol Right about the time i retired as a carpenter they came out with lazers so now i mark my center of the fuse front ,middle and back and line the lazer up to the marks. You seen cheap lazers go around the corners of a room ?
Yep it goes up the rudder your trying to line up too , does not get any straighter than that. , So I square and glue my rudder on the elev then lazer the rudder to the fuse. joe
A laser is not a fixture. My idea has both elements: alignment and fixturing. Good luck getting a laser to serve as fixture. And it will need angular mobility for anhedrals not just right angles
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This is the escape my dad built 25yrs ago. I barely could fly around the field then. This build is sentimental to me
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I have kept a few pattern planes of mine from those years but a plane your father built and shared his time with you while off work is a real treasure . Got my little guy cutting out parts and sanding them to the print long ago and he is 13 now and a pretty good builder in his own rights. MTK i will put a end to this now ,your a much better builder than iam so i will not listen to anyone else but you and never try to learn from anyone else either . lol joe
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got my robart spring air retracts filed down and working smooth today. just going to use these. going to sand the stabs tomorrow at work and get ready to cut elevators out tomorrow. motor will be ordered tonight.
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Originally Posted by edp
Not sure what header you are planning but Leo from http://www.klasskotemo.com/ Is making headers for the NR's to fit. I have the prototype for my XLT.
This is close to the Jenesco 1004 Rossi header. It is made long for tuning.

I sent hime an email. he didn't seem to know what I was asking for. I ordered my engine last nite and got a 1" header. ill heat up and bend the header if possible since I hanvt got that far into building, I can make the plane fit the header I guess
Old 11-07-2015, 04:54 PM
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Nappyroots2182,

Not sure who you contacted, but it was not me. If you need a custom header down the road: www.klasskotemo.com I use the correct metric tubing and factory NovaRossi components. You can also PM me.

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Ok thanks. Yes I'm still interested in the correct header. I'll contact you. I tried to email you and it kept bouncing back add a bad email. I emailed klass direct and they didn't know anything about it. But now I do
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Not sure why the Escape has a 2-1/4" spinner. 2-1/2" would look better on the model allowing for a less pronounced cowl contour. It also makes life easier on 60 size engines/props. I think this is one of the things that Chuck Cunningham addressed in the Great Escape - it just made sense.

The convoluted header required on the model is another bizarre thing. I mean, this is a pretty straight forward fuse top header situation. If it can be done on the Deception, no reason why it shouldn't on the Escape.

No disrespect whatsoever but Joe was great at designing planforms; internal structure..., not so much.

If I put this fellow into CAD one day, I'm going to fix all that unnecessary complexity.

David
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few good ideas. I may look into the slightly larger spinner. would help hide some motor since the blocks wouldn't get tapeded so much. I'm about ready to carve out the upper nose block and glue it on. might make the bottom nose a hatch since I cant find a way to get a gas tank in from the wing area
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Dremel sanding drum + F2= room to get tank in/out
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former 2 is all ground out also top block is. still cant get the tank in and out. I rather build a hatch anyway since I'm not using a nose retract. anyway got my elevators cut and capped off today. everyday I like to do at least one step as I'm just getting back into this building thing

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guided by the new futaba 18SZ !!!
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Not sure which tank I have in mine but it fits OK; have to use a piece of packing tape around the tank to make a tab for pulling it out.

Will check tomorrow and see if I can identify the tank without removing it.

Jim

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Originally Posted by doxilia
Not sure why the Escape has a 2-1/4" spinner. 2-1/2" would look better on the model allowing for a less pronounced cowl contour. It also makes life easier on 60 size engines/props. I think this is one of the things that Chuck Cunningham addressed in the Great Escape - it just made sense.

The convoluted header required on the model is another bizarre thing. I mean, this is a pretty straight forward fuse top header situation. If it can be done on the Deception, no reason why it shouldn't on the Escape.

No disrespect whatsoever but Joe was great at designing planforms; internal structure..., not so much.

If I put this fellow into CAD one day, I'm going to fix all that unnecessary complexity.

David
David, if I recall, the early fuse top headers for rear exhaust engines back then had the "S" look to them. Macs eventually came out with the better design we all went to. Is the better header no longer available from MACS?

Thanks for bringing Bill Cunningham up, a fellow I've known for many years. I forgot his involvement with the model's pedigree. His Great Escape eventually matured into the Malibu. I had one of those and it was a fine flier. Bill returned to top level aerobatics very briefly (I saw him last in the 2007 Nats) but he didn't make the F3A Finals. Speaking with him afterwards, his business was all consuming not allowing him to devote enough practice time to toy airplanes.

If you ever had the drive to ink the next Escape, I'd love a set of plans or a laser cut kit of same. Retirement is here next year and I'll have plenty of time. The place has already been chosen (sunny FLA, yeay!)


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