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Old 12-17-2007, 04:10 PM
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Chuck,

Any pictures of your Atlanta project would be cool!! Keep up the good work[sm=thumbup.gif]

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Hey Mike M,
Are you looking for a built up 60 sized Desire or the components to build one (cores and glass fuse top and cowl)?
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:08 PM
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Any pictures of your Atlanta project would be cool!! Keep up the good work[sm=thumbup.gif]

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Thank You Very Much!! I will keep you all posted...

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Hey Mike M,
Are you looking for a built up 60 sized Desire or the components to build one (cores and glass fuse top and cowl)?
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I'd be interested ina built up one. I'm not much on building anymore.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:49 PM
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Why in the world would you want a Desire?

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Just nostalgic in my old age.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:57 PM
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Mike,
How about a Malibu? Ha, Still have one in the shipping box that has never been out since its return from the 1995 world Championships.

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Naaa, I always hated that airpalne......




Sorry Bill, I'm just kidding. I actually always liked the Malibu. That should be in a museum or something.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:45 PM
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You guys need to get an old school BPA plane together and come fly in Huntsville Al. in AUG 2008. We had a blast last year...


Event info will be online soon..

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Old 12-17-2007, 08:42 PM
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Gary,
Hate to hijack this thread, maybe we should go somewhere else, but, I am working on a compensator. Collected some St blue heads, OS gold and black heads over the years so I'm fixed for engines. I have been a little disappointed with the no retract rule, streching of the fuses for 4-strokes and alike. Some of the old school stuff just doesnt look right after some of these mods. Building mine just like the last one Rhett Miller flew, just no skyloft!

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Old 12-17-2007, 08:57 PM
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Hate to hijack this thread,

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I'm the Origional Poster...No Worries about HiJacking!! I'm just having fun listening to some Legends!! Make yourself at Home!!


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I have been a little disappointed with the no retract rule, streching of the fuses for 4-strokes and alike. Some of the old school stuff just doesnt look right after some of these mods.

Bill
Retracts and Pipes are Allowed and Encouraged in **BPA** !!!!

BPA (Ballistic Pattern Association):
http://www.ballisticpattern.com/

Gary is a Head Knocker of BPA so I'll let him explain further...

Photos= Flashback's?? (photos taken from the BPA website)

Have Fun...

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I have a Phoenix 5 and Phoenix 7 both framed and just about ready for paint. I agree with Bill 100%, I want them to be just as they were in the 70's except for the radio gear. I have a couple of NIB ST Blueheads for them, Southern retracts and plan to paint the P7 just like Dave Brown's that I used to watch fly (and idolize the airplane and pilot) when I was a kid.
The BPA stuff appeals to me a lot becuase it allows retracts and pipes. I want to recreate the models of that era as they were.
I'd love to find a QL Curare kit as well and paint it up like Hanno's from the '77 Springfield worlds.
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BTW, please send me or post any info available on the BPA contests. I would love to make it to one.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:31 PM
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The contest is set for Aug 2008 it will be under the same platform as we had in 07 following the rule book for 91-92 the patterns are posted on the BPA web page.Maybe we can get Steve Helms and Dave brown this year Bill and yourself would be a treat also Don Lowe wouldn't take a whole lot off arm twisting to get him to come back as he is a long distance club member these days. I am in the process of finalizing our game plan this year and I will start a thread for the contest soon.

[link]http://www.ballisticpattern.com/[/link]

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Old 12-18-2007, 12:31 AM
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Why have the contest in the hottest month of the year? Most of us are OLD!

What's the matter? Afraid the old guys will kick your young butts if you have the contest in cooler weather? <G>


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Old 12-18-2007, 12:44 AM
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No Don Lowe is in his 80's and did a fine job of kicking my and others proverbial AR$$ last year, fact is all the other good months are taken for other events at our field. We do have a airconditioned club house!!! The BPA is johnny come lately and we get the leftover dates at our club.


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Old 12-31-2007, 06:59 PM
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Going to move the mold making project over to the Composite forums...If your interested in following with details:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6827800/tm.htm

I'll keep this thread up with some of the highlights...

Have Fun...

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Old 05-05-2008, 08:44 AM
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Well it's been a little long time coming...But the Atlanta project reached a semi significant milestone yesterday and I thought I'd revive this thread...

Three reasons it's taken so long:
1) Moldmaking takes a long time...
2) I'm slow...
3) I was slow to get started...

My Atlanta has been encased in fiberglass for quite a while now...Finally it's free from those constraints and ready to make it's way to the sky...

I'm pleased My Baby made it through the process unscathed!! I'm Very Happy about that!!

Here are a few highlight photos and I'll add a few more later...There is more information in this composites forum thread for those interested in seeing the process to date:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6827800/tm.htm

There is still a lot of work to be done...This is just the first step (a transfer)...But it's a pretty big one so I'm pleased... [8D]
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Wow, that's great work. I wish I could do that! [8D]
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Right on Chuck, You go! There's a lot I've learned from your composites thread and have some questions pertaining upcoming projects. Very inspiring!
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Chuck, i am sincerely happy for you on the survival of your atlanta. and the molding results are outf*&^%ing standing!!! wow!!, between you and the strega build on extreme speed prop forum there is some serious molding going on.

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Very nice work. Always thought the Atlanta was a cool plane.
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Chuck, I've made simple molds before and they were to make two seperate halves and then join them together off the mold. I asume you plan to have them together In the mold or am I wrong? If you do, how do you do the lay up In the mold?


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Awsome work Chuck. I've been following your thread in the composties forum and Wow you make it look so easy. I've been totally inspired by your work. I'll be using your post as a guide for when I get around to making some molds myself.

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Thanks for the Comments Guys!!

These are really not the real "molds" in the pictures...They are just a temporary version which I made in several pieces so I could reduce some stress while de-molding from my Atlanta...I feared if I did them in two pieces I was really going to risk damaging or destroying my original airplane...By splitting them up in several sections I was able to work around some tight spots which would have probably hung due to "backdraft"...I also made them pretty light weight so they would "give a little" to reduce some stress as well...Technically these are called a "Splash" or a "Transfer"...

Using this transfer I will make a dummy Atlanta (Master Model)...It will be a thick, heavy, sturdy mock-up of the Atlanta fuselage...Then I will do some finish type work to that master model to clean it up a little...I wanna clean up the belly pan/fuselage fit as the factory airplane is sorta crude looking...Then there are some other little details I wanna clean up too...Once I get the Master Model slicked up I'll move on to making the "Real Molds"...


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Chuck, I've made simple molds before and they were to make two seperate halves and then join them together off the mold. I asume you plan to have them together In the mold or am I wrong? If you do, how do you do the lay up In the mold?


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Dave..I'm making a set of molds (for me) that I will design for vacuum bagging...I will join my halves separately after they have cured...I'm also making a second set of molds which will be designed for joining the halves while wet...Those will have some cutouts and access to the inside of the fuse so a guy can work on the seem with some special long reach tools and lots of patience...

No reason you couldn't vacuum bag with the other tools if you were to use an "envelope bag" which will only require a little more bagging material... [8D]

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Chuck, i am sincerely happy for you on the survival of your atlanta. and the molding results are outf*&^%ing standing!!! wow!!, between you and the strega build on extreme speed prop forum there is some serious molding going on.

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Hey Dave..Thanks for mentioning the Strega...I looked up that thread and was amazed!! Super clean and neat stuff that guy is doing...What a craftsman that fellow is!!

Seems he's using allot of CNC stuff which is Really Neat!! Boy..I'd like to check into that some day...He's got it goin' on!! Very Fast too!!

I'm all slow, crude and Old School...

While on a trip out to California for work I ran into a guy who use to be a Composite tool builder also...He had just left his tool building job to come to work at Lockheed...We were talking and he starts mentioning all the advancements in that industry...I wouldn't even recognize it today...All my "Old School" techniques are obsolete...

I need to stop by my old job...They are some great people!! I should run by there and check on them...I hear they are rockin' along pretty good and have grown a good bit...Would be nice to catch up and check out all the latest stuff...It's a Kewl Place if your a Composites Guy...I learned allot there...

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